Look at how soundly we spanked the Nazis and yet they are still here. Hamas can't be destroyed.
Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?
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Well up to now, Israel is still getting rockets fired on them so I don't think Hamas is going anywhere yet...It boggles my mind how the victim from 1929, 1941 and targeted by white supremacists can now be labelled as "massive racist"...a group of people a.k.a. "zionists" who had an exodus to leave every muslim dominated country out of danger...are now "massive racists" and commiting genocide etc etc...such a crazy world we live in...
This will mitigate them from attacking in the next couple years....and maybe drive Gazans to abandon Hamas...they won't go away easy...they have billions in funds....
Just goes to show you that being the victims of racism doesn't mean you can't also be racist on your own.
Never Again was supposed to mean never let it happen to anyone, not just make sure it doesn't happen to you.
But of course who's to say there are no racist in every corners of the world? I'd be dumb if I say there are no Israeli racists...there are also a lot of paranoid Israelis who can't sleep at night knowing on the other side of the border, a rocket is always aimed at them....that's a legit fear...
That maybe true ( I will look into that ) and as I said...there are Israeli racists for sure... and when they're clumped up in one location...that becomes a problem...and evidently there are instances minorities get the shorter stick...now we don't see this happening in Arab countries is because jews are almost non existent...would you say you put hundred thousands jews in egypt, lebanon, syria, Iran , Iraq could easily prove this point in a few days...That is the pity. They were victims during WW2. But no longer. You are using WW2 logic to say, that they are still the demure, victimized people today. They are actually the hawks now.
That is why I keep saying watch those videos from Core Gil-Shuster. You will see racism first hand.
In general, they have a very arrogant, cliquey, racist culture. Sometimes they subject other Jews to said racism - for example Ethiopian Jews.
The plight of Ethiopian Jews in Israel
Protests over the beating of an Ethiopian Israeli soldier have thrown the spotlight on the Ethiopian Jewish community in Israel, writes Prof Yossi Mekelberg.www.bbc.com
What about if you're a kid that grows up in Gaza?
If you're say 16, you've already lived through 6 wars, with lots of death all around you.
Ok, maybe 'fix' is too much.
What route would you suggest to either try to end the cycles of violence or make the situation as best as can be?
Its that attitude that tries to justify genocide, by saying everyone in Gaza is 'Hamas' and therefore a target.
Looks like Israel killed 400 people in a refugee camp inside Gaza.
Which means we'll expect this:
a) the IDF saying 'it didn't happen'
b) it was Hamas
c) it was us but they had a tunnel
d) look at this new video of Hamas we just found
My point was that the public cherry picks issues to be concerned about. The Palestinians generate massive support. The Houthis and Eritreans are pretty much ignored. They rarely or never make the news and few people protest on their behalf.
Don't you end up coming back to saying extremist Jews and HAMAS are both pretty awful?That is the pity. They were victims during WW2. But no longer. You are using WW2 logic to say, that they are still the demure, victimized people today. They are actually the hawks now.
That is why I keep saying watch those videos from Core Gil-Shuster. You will see racism first hand.
In general, they have a very arrogant, cliquey, racist culture. Sometimes they subject other Jews to said racism - for example Ethiopian Jews.
The plight of Ethiopian Jews in Israel
Protests over the beating of an Ethiopian Israeli soldier have thrown the spotlight on the Ethiopian Jewish community in Israel, writes Prof Yossi Mekelberg.www.bbc.com
Isn't the real "solution" for the other Arab nations to absorb the 1M+ Gazans and give them a fresh start elsewhere in the Middle East?.... Not that this would ever happen. Because each and every Arab government believes that Palestine is Allah's soil and the Palestinians must wait until Allah blesses them by exterminating the Jews and giving Palestine back to his devout worshippers. Which will of course happen for sure, but only when Allah wills it and extends his blessing for it to happen.
if not lost then definitely losing. Pro-Palestinian PR is crazy good.
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Chosen by whom? European and US ...Of course! It is impossible to choose. They will both out do each other, and finger point and you'd be left in the middle grinning awkwardly. lol.
T Plus they are the chosen people, so clearly the Palestinians are the occupiers!
DOn't know about "crazy good" but almost every liberal media are afraid to struck a "pro palestinian" chord....just look at BBC.
That is the problem...you can say, let's not touch the past but it's connected...there was a legit attempt to annihiliate Israel....that was a real attempt and let's not say it won't happen again...almost every turn Israel is getting slammed with nonsense by every Arab neighbors in the UN forum...these Arab nations are taking the fight somewhere they can win ... that "military edge" is what's keeping Israel still existing to this day....Imagine if they have no Iron dome and no edge? what would've happen in Oct 7? Palestinians problem is going to bed with Hamas..Of course! It is impossible to choose. They will both out do each other, and finger point and you'd be left in the middle grinning awkwardly. lol.
The real solution is for Israel to give back land to the Palestinians, and give them complete sovereignty.
But no, Israelis cannot be that compromising when they have the military edge, can they?. Plus they are the chosen people, so clearly the Palestinians are the occupiers!
Well, so you'd hope the Palestinians would atleast accept the compromise, and take something less than what they think they should get, with their kids and future generations in mind. Right?
Wrong. They'd much rather fight and die trying.
