Israel at war

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Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?

And yes, genocide is exactly what Hamas tried and want to happen. Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
#Gaza_Genocide has been trending all week, buddy.
You are officially as evil, as a supporter of genocide on a marginalized people, as any since the 1940's.

Gaza is smaller than Hiroshima.

 

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Israel is the occupying power.
They decide when to end the occupation.
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Not only anti-semitic but you show you think Palestinians are beneath you every time you want the forced into a solution.

Why are you incapable of admitting that Hamas CHOSE to murder civilians?
 
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#Gaza_Genocide has been trending all week, buddy.
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Yeah. Racists will racist and the ignorant will parrot them. Doesn't change reality.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?

Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
 
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I really wonder what was going on in the minds of the Hamas leaders when they were planning the Oct. 7 attack, with its utter inhumanity and viciousness.

Did they really think Israel would turn the other cheek, or just respond in a moderate manner?

Imbeciles, with no concern how Israel's predictable and severe retaliation would affect the innocents of Gaza.

Not to mention the boost they gave to Netanyahu at a time when his general popularity in Israel was waning...
Meshal, safe in his Qatar mansion, already said that Hamas actions demand 'sacrifice'.


The thing I don't get is Hamas' thinking about the results of their violence and terrorism. Insurgency is useful in getting rid of a foreign invader through attrition of morale but they seem not to understand that most Israelis have nowhere else to go. The cynic in me has them understanding anger is a great way to convince people to sacrifice their rights so they accelerate the conflict just to gain more power and money.
 
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Same with Christianity.

Thankfully most Christians and most Muslims don't buy that shit. More accurate to say that some leaders do whatever they can to convince people to accept their rule and religion has traditionally done a very good job of do that. Nothing special about Islam and I see it as almost a geographical accident that the dictators in the ME use Muslim ideology rather than Christianity, communism, or fascism.
Yup. But you just admitted that Islam IS AN AUTHORITARIAN FRIENDLY IDEOLOGY. Appreciate that.
 

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Ah, the fake victimhood. You get in trouble for openly supporting Hamas' actions and refusing to hold them accountable for their choices. That's why you hide behind your anonymous posts to avoid consequences for your continual promotion of hatred.

But considering how many hours a day you spend here, I doubt you have a job that you can get in trouble at.
 

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Yup. But you just admitted that Islam IS AN AUTHORITARIAN FRIENDLY IDEOLOGY. Appreciate that.
No.

All ideologies can be cherry-picked and distorted to serve the needs of an authoritarian regime. Is Christianity really anti gay or anti abortion?.... Depends who you talk to and their other beliefs.
 

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Why are you still trying to play that stupid game?
We are talking genocide, which is worse than apartheid by 100x and that's worse than targeting civilians by 100x
Oh so targeting civilians is totally okay? Gotcha
 
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Yeah. Racists will racist and the ignorant will parrot them. Doesn't change reality.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?

Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
Both Hamas and Israel have committed terrorism by targeting civilians and both should be charged for all war crimes.
You, and all Israeli supporters, want everyone to use the 'terrorist' label. I'll go along with that if you also agree that the Israeli government and army are also terrorists, as they are guilty of the same crimes but on a much, much more massive scale.

Agree?
 

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Yup. But you just admitted that Islam IS AN AUTHORITARIAN FRIENDLY IDEOLOGY. Appreciate that.
Every religion is. Don't know why you think Islam is a special case. The only real difference I see is things like the Magna Carta put cracks into authoritarian rule in the English descended world.

And what's your excuse for China? Is their authoritarian rule the fault of Islam too? And Russia? North Korea? How about majority Christian Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea, Democratic Republic of Congo, CAR, or Burundi? Buddhist Laos?
 
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Both Hamas and Israel have committed terrorism by targeting civilians and both should be charged for all war crimes.
You, and all Israeli supporters, want everyone to use the 'terrorist' label. I'll go along with that if you also agree that the Israeli government and army are also terrorists, as they are guilty of the same crimes but on a much, much more massive scale.

Agree?
Amazing that you so freely pretend all Israelis are terrorists while claiming it is racist to say Hamas is a terror group. Sorry but Hamas is a terrorist group as we all saw when they committed a major terror attack on Oct. 7. You might support their actions but that doesn't change a thing.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?
Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
 
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No, both sides need to be taken to the Hague.
How many times do I have to say that?
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It's what you refuse to say. No one believes your Trumpian "both sides" shit.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?

Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
 
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Amazing that you so freely pretend all Israelis are terrorists while claiming it is racist to say Hamas is a terror group. Sorry but Hamas is a terrorist group as we all saw when they committed a major terror attack on Oct. 7. You might support their actions but that doesn't change a thing.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?
Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
I said, if you are willing to use the term fairly, using the same definition on both sides, you'll have to label both sides 'terrorist'.
If you agree to that, I'll go along with you.

What I wont do is follow your racist move to claim it only fits Palestinians.

But as a point of order, can you rank these three crimes against humanity by levels of evil?
apartheid
terrorism
genocide

Go ahead.
 

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It's what you refuse to say. No one believes your Trumpian "both sides" shit.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?

Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
Nobody believes your racist definition, basketcase.
Make a case, set the definition and we'll apply it fairly to both sides and see who you think are 'terrorists'.

Otherwise you're just another Islamaphobie, out trying to dehumanize an indigenous population.
 

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So where is the evidence for "They tried to introduce Sharia Law"? Seems like 25 protestors at a consulate and a recommendation by a MP.

Also see basketcase's post - "......they suggested giving the same rights to the Muslim community that the Christian and Jewish communities already had to voluntary arbitration on minor family matters."

So again, where is the dangerous Taliban style Sharia Law that you are referring to?
Slippery slope.

Here is what happens with a foothold

 
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