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As you know, most phones can scan QR Codes that store digital information.

If I scan a QR Code that has a video as stored information, is it possible to retrieve that video and send it to someone thru email?
 

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As you know, most phones can scan QR Codes that store digital information.

If I scan a QR Code that has a video as stored information, is it possible to retrieve that video and send it to someone thru email?
A QR code contains about 4k of data. So it would only contain a link to a video. You can email the link to someone but sending the complete video is unlikely. First the owner of the video would have to permit downloading, and second, the maximum size of an attachment varies but 8mb is typical.
 

probyn

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A QR code contains about 4k of data. So it would only contain a link to a video. You can email the link to someone but sending the complete video is unlikely. First the owner of the video would have to permit downloading, and second, the maximum size of an attachment varies but 8mb is typical.
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Lot more exciting than most QR's I scan.
Use them from a screen in the truck cab to get batch data from loads of concrete on the redi mix trucks when they pull onto the work site.

Tell us the mix design, specified range of air entrainment and mm range of slump and the time the batch was loaded onto the truck.
 
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Lot more exciting than most QR's I scan.
Use them from a screen in the truck cab to get batch data from loads of concrete on the redi mix trucks when they pull onto the work site.

Tell us the mix design, specified range of air entrainment and mm range of slump and the time the batch was loaded onto the truck.
My device does not have QR Installed . Does anyone feel like talking about this in detail Tell me more about QR readers
 

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My device does not have QR Installed . Does anyone feel like talking about this in detail Tell me more about QR readers
You should be able to scan a QR with your smartphone's camera app. Just point your phone at the QR code and the camera should recognize it.

There are a raft of Android or Iphone apps that let you scan QR codes. The one I use most is called Google Lens. It can scan QR / bar codes and can also search for just about anything you point your camera at like buildings, signs, plants, animals, etc.

You've likely come across QR codes in restaurants where they replaced paper menus with a QR code. The QR code takes you to an online or PDF version of the menu. Some producets also have replaced paper manuals with QR codes.
 

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Stupid and yet smart but stupid.
When I built my last computer from scratch the manuals in each product gave me a link to a video/manual on the internet on how to assemble.
WTF?
I am building a computer and don't have access to that, I didn't have a cell phone back then.
 

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I've read articles where malware can be embedded in a QRcode. That scares me from scanning those squares
 

explorerzip

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Stupid and yet smart but stupid.
When I built my last computer from scratch the manuals in each product gave me a link to a video/manual on the internet on how to assemble.
WTF?
What's stupid about my post exactly? In the unlikely event that you don't have a QR code reader on your phone, then you download one.

Are you're saying that products don't always come with paper manuals and only have a QR code? That is true, but I said that earlier and it's not universal. I built a new computer in 2021 and everything: motherboard, CPU, graphics card, RAM, solid state drive came with paper manuals. The motherboard also came with a CD with a PDF manual on it. I upgraded my phone earlier this year and it also came with a paper manual.

I am building a computer and don't have access to that, I didn't have a cell phone back then.
When year did you build your computer and didn't have a cell phone? Smartphones have been around for 20 years now. Perhaps you didn't have a smartphone until recently, which is fine. Then just say so. Even if you don't have a smartphone, you clearly have a way to browse the internet and search for things like manuals on it.
 

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What's stupid about my post exactly? In the unlikely event that you don't have a QR code reader on your phone, then you download one.

Are you're saying that products don't always come with paper manuals and only have a QR code? That is true, but I said that earlier and it's not universal. I built a new computer in 2021 and everything: motherboard, CPU, graphics card, RAM, solid state drive came with paper manuals. The motherboard also came with a CD with a PDF manual on it. I upgraded my phone earlier this year and it also came with a paper manual.



When year did you build your computer and didn't have a cell phone? Smartphones have been around for 20 years now. Perhaps you didn't have a smartphone until recently, which is fine. Then just say so. Even if you don't have a smartphone, you clearly have a way to browse the internet and search for things like manuals on it.
15% of people in Toronto don't have a cell phones. More don't have smartphones. Most of Canada outside the big cities doesn't have Proper internet to look stuff up. Manuals are better anyway.

As soon as we get the Expected so Solar storm erasing digital Data We are gonna go backwards so far.
History is going to look at this time is the stupidest generation of all time
 

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15% of people in Toronto don't have a cell phones. More don't have smartphones. Most of Canada outside the big cities doesn't have Proper internet to look stuff up. Manuals are better anyway.

As soon as we get the Expected so Solar storm erasing digital Data We are gonna go backwards so far.
History is going to look at this time is the stupidest generation of all time
You asked for info about QR codes and I replied with relevant information. Sorry that you didn't like this info. Fact remains that you need a smartphone and QR app or laptop with a camera to scan QC codes. Your stats don't change that.

As for the 15% stat you mentioned, you likely stumbled onto this report: https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/95dc-Mapping-Torontos-Digital-Divide.pdf that says: "15% of households with less than $20,000 income and 20% of those aged 60 and older do not have a smartphone." That's very different than saying that 15% of people of the whole population of Toronoto does not have them. There is a very big difference between those numbers.

What does "proper" internet even mean? You have access or you don't. Clearly, you have an internet capable device (computer, phone or tablet) and internet access at home, friend's place, work, school, coffee shop, stealing a neighbours WIFI. etc.

About 94% of Canadians have access to "high speed" or greater than 50Mbps internet access. The Northern territories are lagging behind the national average by a lot though.


This report says the same thing:


Yes, you can pickup and read a paper manual at any time. On the other hand, how many times do you need to read them? For most electronics like computers, TV's, DVD players, etc. you're likely only reading it once if at all. You still have to store those paper manuals and they can go yellow or disintegrate over time or you just lose them.

An apocalyptic solar storm that's strong enough to erase digital data would also disrupt the power grid. In that scenario, not being able to read manuals would be the least of your worries.
 

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You asked for info about QR codes and I replied with relevant information. Sorry that you didn't like this info. Fact remains that you need a smartphone and QR app or laptop with a camera to scan QC codes. Your stats don't change that.

As for the 15% stat you mentioned, you likely stumbled onto this report: https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/95dc-Mapping-Torontos-Digital-Divide.pdf that says: "15% of households with less than $20,000 income and 20% of those aged 60 and older do not have a smartphone." That's very different than saying that 15% of people of the whole population of Toronoto does not have them. There is a very big difference between those numbers.

What does "proper" internet even mean? You have access or you don't. Clearly, you have an internet capable device (computer, phone or tablet) and internet access at home, friend's place, work, school, coffee shop, stealing a neighbours WIFI. etc.

About 94% of Canadians have access to "high speed" or greater than 50Mbps internet access. The Northern territories are lagging behind the national average by a lot though.


This report says the same thing:


Yes, you can pickup and read a paper manual at any time. On the other hand, how many times do you need to read them? For most electronics like computers, TV's, DVD players, etc. you're likely only reading it once if at all. You still have to store those paper manuals and they can go yellow or disintegrate over time or you just lose them.

An apocalyptic solar storm that's strong enough to erase digital data would also disrupt the power grid. In that scenario, not being able to read manuals would be the least of your worries.
Appears the percentage I was told did bad research. Or is out of date. From a quick look 86% of people now have smartphones. Obviously In Toronto as runs go up eventually cell phones will disappear. But I know some homeless people would rather have a cell phone than give up on their homelessness. Which is where we're heading.

I did not ask I just Join the conversation.




Proper internet I mean by price And basic for liability. Most of the west uses satellites which only allow form surfing the web and not for uploading. Uploading Is dunelm by going Traveling miles To where You have 2 way internet. Or they can spend a fortune with various devices. Play golden days where you spent 3 $4 per minute to go on the net.

There are whole black areas that don't have access at all. Here is the broadband access idea of lack of good coverage .


Dial up is bad internet. It's effectively obsolete because that websites no longer small enough for that to be practical.

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explorerzip

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Appears the percentage I was told did bad research. Or is out of date. From a quick look 86% of people now have smartphones.
How does a percentage you were told do bad research? Maybe try rephrasing your sentence? Perhaps posting the link where you got the percentage would help.

Obviously In Toronto as runs go up eventually cell phones will disappear. But I know some homeless people would rather have a cell phone than give up on their homelessness. Which is where we're heading.
How does runs go up eventually make cell phones disappear? Maybe you were trying to say as rents go up, people are more likely to cancel their cell phone plans? If it's true that homeless people would rather have a cell phone than give up being homeless, then that must mean that people are unlikely to cancel their plans even when rents go up. Again, post some links that show how the cost of living has caused people to cancel their phone plans.

If you want a political debate about the cost and access of internet then there's a dedicated forum for that topic.

I did not ask I just Join the conversation.
You asked this earlier:

My device does not have QR Installed . Does anyone feel like talking about this in detail Tell me more about QR readers
Did I not give enough detail about how you can read a QR code with your phone?

Proper internet I mean by price And basic for liability. Most of the west uses satellites which only allow form surfing the web and not for uploading.
What is the "proper" price for internet and what do you mean by "basic for liability"? Where did you get the idea that "most of the West" uses satellites to get internet access? By defintion, surfing the web involes downloading and uploading. There's no such thing as download or one-way only internet access even when you're on dial-up or satellite. Your device downloads data like images, text, video, etc from a server and uploads data when you search Google or Terb or type in your username and password. It is true that the upload and download speeds are not the same, but you cannot have one way or download only internet access. The internet does not work that way.

Most airliners use satellite internet especailly when they are in remote areas or over the open ocean where there are no cell towers. It can be quite slow and costly, but you can download and upload with it.

Uploading Is dunelm by going Traveling miles To where You have 2 way internet. Or they can spend a fortune with various devices.
What is duneIm? I repeat, there's no such thing as 1 way or download only internet. Saying that you have to travel miles for 2 way internet makes no sense. You don't need to spend a fortune with various devices to get Internet access.

If you have just about any smartphone including Iphone, Android, Samsung, etc. that has a camera and you can download apps to it, then you should be able to scan a QR code. The Google Lens app I talked about earlier also works when your phone does not have internet access and will show part of the link that the QR code goes to. You won't be able to open that link until you have internet access again though.

Play golden days where you spent 3 $4 per minute to go on the net.
I don't see how playing 3 $4 per minute is the golden days. $3 per minute equals to $180 per hour. $4 per minute is $240 per hour. That is ridiculously expensive and definitely not the golden days. Most cellular voice and data plans today are around $50 per month, but I'm sure you can find cheaper plans out there if you shop around.

There are whole black areas that don't have access at all. Here is the broadband access idea of lack of good coverage .
The blank areas in your map don't mean those areas have no access at all. It means they don't have access to broadband internet. Big difference.

Your image came from this link, which is now 7 years old:

The data from that map actually came from an archvied CRTC article that is now almost 10 years old:

From the CRTC article:

"The map depicts broadband Internet services that were available across Canada and the technologies used to provide those services as of the end of 2014."

"This map depicts the availability of broadband Internet access service at or above the CRTC’s target speeds of 5 megabits per second download and 1 megabits per second upload within hexagon areas of 25 square kilometres.

If you live in a very remote area of Canada, then you're unlikely to come across a QR code or need internet for your daily life. If you need internet in a remote area, then there are choices like StarLink satellite and others.

Dial up is bad internet. It's effectively obsolete because that websites no longer small enough for that to be practical.
Dial-up is not necessarily bad internet. It depends on the sites you go to. Dial-up would be too slow for YouTube, Netflix, video calls, gaming, etc On the other hand, dial-up should be fine for doing e-mail, online banking, though it would be slow.
 
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You asked for info about QR codes and I replied with relevant information. Sorry that you didn't like this info. Fact remains that you need a smartphone and QR app or laptop with a camera to scan QC codes. Your stats don't change that.

As for the 15% stat you mentioned, you likely stumbled onto this report: https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/95dc-Mapping-Torontos-Digital-Divide.pdf that says: "15% of households with less than $20,000 income and 20% of those aged 60 and older do not have a smartphone." That's very different than saying that 15% of people of the whole population of Toronoto does not have them. There is a very big difference between those numbers.

What does "proper" internet even mean? You have access or you don't. Clearly, you have an internet capable device (computer, phone or tablet) and internet access at home, friend's place, work, school, coffee shop, stealing a neighbours WIFI. etc.

About 94% of Canadians have access to "high speed" or greater than 50Mbps internet access. The Northern territories are lagging behind the national average by a lot though.


This report says the same thing:


Yes, you can pickup and read a paper manual at any time. On the other hand, how many times do you need to read them? For most electronics like computers, TV's, DVD players, etc. you're likely only reading it once if at all. You still have to store those paper manuals and they can go yellow or disintegrate over time or you just lose them.

Wikipedia.


One-way terrestrial return satellite Internet systems are used with conventional dial-up Internet access, with outbound (upstream) data traveling through a telephone modem, but downstream data sent via satellite at a higher rate.


An apocalyptic solar storm that's strong enough to erase digital data would also disrupt the power grid. In that scenario, not being able to read manuals would be the least of your worries.
Wikipedia
One-way terrestrial return satellite Internet systems are used with conventional dial-up Internet access, with outbound (upstream) data traveling through a telephone modem, but downstream data sent via satellite at a higher rate.
 

escortsxxx

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How does a percentage you were told do bad research? Maybe try rephrasing your sentence? Perhaps posting the link where you got the percentage would help.



How does runs go up eventually make cell phones disappear? Maybe you were trying to say as rents go up, people are more likely to cancel their cell phone plans? If it's true that homeless people would rather have a cell phone than give up being homeless, then that must mean that people are unlikely to cancel their plans even when rents go up. Again, post some links that show how the cost of living has caused people to cancel their phone plans.

If you want a political debate about the cost and access of internet then there's a dedicated forum for that topic.



You asked this earlier:



Did I not give enough detail about how you can read a QR code with your phone?



What is the "proper" price for internet and what do you mean by "basic for liability"? Where did you get the idea that "most of the West" uses satellites to get internet access? By defintion, surfing the web involes downloading and uploading. There's no such thing as download or one-way only internet access even when you're on dial-up or satellite. Your device downloads data like images, text, video, etc from a server and uploads data when you search Google or Terb or type in your username and password. It is true that the upload and download speeds are not the same, but you cannot have one way or download only internet access. The internet does not work that way.

Most airliners use satellite internet especailly when they are in remote areas or over the open ocean where there are no cell towers. It can be quite slow and costly, but you can download and upload with it.



What is duneIm? I repeat, there's no such thing as 1 way or download only internet. Saying that you have to travel miles for 2 way internet makes no sense. You don't need to spend a fortune with various devices to get Internet access.

If you have just about any smartphone including Iphone, Android, Samsung, etc. that has a camera and you can download apps to it, then you should be able to scan a QR code. The Google Lens app I talked about earlier also works when your phone does not have internet access and will show part of the link that the QR code goes to. You won't be able to open that link until you have internet access again though.



I don't see how playing 3 $4 per minute is the golden days. $3 per minute equals to $180 per hour. $4 per minute is $240 per hour. That is ridiculously expensive and definitely not the golden days. Most cellular voice and data plans today are around $50 per month, but I'm sure you can find cheaper plans out there if you shop around.



The blank areas in your map don't mean those areas have no access at all. It means they don't have access to broadband internet. Big difference.

Your image came from this link, which is now 7 years old:

The data from that map actually came from an archvied CRTC article that is now almost 10 years old:

From the CRTC article:

"The map depicts broadband Internet services that were available across Canada and the technologies used to provide those services as of the end of 2014."

"This map depicts the availability of broadband Internet access service at or above the CRTC’s target speeds of 5 megabits per second download and 1 megabits per second upload within hexagon areas of 25 square kilometres.

If you live in a very remote area of Canada, then you're unlikely to come across a QR code or need internet for your daily life. If you need internet in a remote area, then there are choices like StarLink satellite and others.

A one-way internet system, where data travels primarily in one direction, has limitations when it comes to interactive online activities. In such a system, you can typically do the following:
  1. Receive Data: You can receive data, such as web pages, videos, and downloads, as the downstream data flow is supported.
  2. Watch Videos: Streaming video content is possible, as you're mostly receiving data.
However, you may encounter significant limitations with activities that require sending data or interacting with websites and online services, including:
  1. Sending Emails: Sending emails can be challenging as it requires upstream data transfer.
  2. Online Gaming: Real-time online gaming is usually not feasible due to the need for bidirectional communication for gaming interactions.
  3. Video Conferencing: Two-way video conferencing can be difficult or low in quality due to the inability to upload data efficiently.
  4. Web Forms: Submitting online forms, such as filling out surveys or making online purchases, may be slow or unreliable.
  5. Remote Work: Working from home, especially if it involves sending large files or using cloud-based tools, can be limited.
A one-way internet system is best suited for scenarios where users primarily consume content and have limited need for interactive or upstream data transfer. For more interactive and versatile internet usage, bidirectional systems are preferable.







Dial-up is not necessarily bad internet. It depends on the sites you go to. Dial-up would be too slow for YouTube, Netflix, video calls, gaming, etc On the other hand, dial-up should be fine for doing e-mail, online banking, though it would be slow.
Imagine this is this is becoming obsolete But:
A one-way internet system, where data travels primarily in one direction, has limitations when it comes to interactive online activities. In such a system, you can typically do the following:
  1. Receive Data: You can receive data, such as web pages, videos, and downloads, as the downstream data flow is supported.
  2. Watch Videos: Streaming video content is possible, as you're mostly receiving data.
However, you may encounter significant limitations with activities that require sending data or interacting with websites and online services, including:
  1. Sending Emails: Sending emails can be challenging as it requires upstream data transfer.
  2. Online Gaming: Real-time online gaming is usually not feasible due to the need for bidirectional communication for gaming interactions.
  3. Video Conferencing: Two-way video conferencing can be difficult or low in quality due to the inability to upload data efficiently.
  4. Web Forms: Submitting online forms, such as filling out surveys or making online purchases, may be slow or unreliable.
  5. Remote Work: Working from home, especially if it involves sending large files or using cloud-based tools, can be limited.
A one-way internet system is best suited for scenarios where users primarily consume content and have limited need for interactive or upstream data transfer. For more interactive and versatile internet usage, bidirectional systems are preferable.

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The change to the map has not occurred. 2023Appears to be the same as 2016 ...

My apologies for weird Syntax. My device Rewrites on Naughty sites If it If it allowd me to go to them at all. Big brother and all. Never know what's gonna happen when I hit the button. Ai sucks. I have learned Some of the trigger words that Set it off ... Well it keeps on changing and deciding what I should say.
 
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escortsxxx

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How does a percentage you were told do bad research? Maybe try rephrasing your sentence? Perhaps posting the link where you got the percentage would help.



How does runs go up eventually make cell phones disappear? Maybe you were trying to say as rents go up, people are more likely to cancel their cell phone plans? If it's true that homeless people would rather have a cell phone than give up being homeless, then that must mean that people are unlikely to cancel their plans even when rents go up. Again, post some links that show how the cost of living has caused people to cancel their phone plans.

If you want a political debate about the cost and access of internet then there's a dedicated forum for that topic.



You asked this earlier:



Did I not give enough detail about how you can read a QR code with your phone?



What is the "proper" price for internet and what do you mean by "basic for liability"? Where did you get the idea that "most of the West" uses satellites to get internet access? By defintion, surfing the web involes downloading and uploading. There's no such thing as download or one-way only internet access even when you're on dial-up or satellite. Your device downloads data like images, text, video, etc from a server and uploads data when you search Google or Terb or type in your username and password. It is true that the upload and download speeds are not the same, but you cannot have one way or download only internet access. The internet does not work that way.

Most airliners use satellite internet especailly when they are in remote areas or over the open ocean where there are no cell towers. It can be quite slow and costly, but you can download and upload with it.



What is duneIm? I repeat, there's no such thing as 1 way or download only internet. Saying that you have to travel miles for 2 way internet makes no sense. You don't need to spend a fortune with various devices to get Internet access.

If you have just about any smartphone including Iphone, Android, Samsung, etc. that has a camera and you can download apps to it, then you should be able to scan a QR code. The Google Lens app I talked about earlier also works when your phone does not have internet access and will show part of the link that the QR code goes to. You won't be able to open that link until you have internet access again though.



I don't see how playing 3 $4 per minute is the golden days. $3 per minute equals to $180 per hour. $4 per minute is $240 per hour. That is ridiculously expensive and definitely not the golden days. Most cellular voice and data plans today are around $50 per month, but I'm sure you can find cheaper plans out there if you shop around.



The blank areas in your map don't mean those areas have no access at all. It means they don't have access to broadband internet. Big difference.

Your image came from this link, which is now 7 years old:

The data from that map actually came from an archvied CRTC article that is now almost 10 years old:

From the CRTC article:

"The map depicts broadband Internet services that were available across Canada and the technologies used to provide those services as of the end of 2014."

"This map depicts the availability of broadband Internet access service at or above the CRTC’s target speeds of 5 megabits per second download and 1 megabits per second upload within hexagon areas of 25 square kilometres.

If you live in a very remote area of Canada, then you're unlikely to come across a QR code or need internet for your daily life. If you need internet in a remote area, then there are choices like StarLink satellite and others.



Dial-up is not necessarily bad internet. It depends on the sites you go to. Dial-up would be too slow for YouTube, Netflix, video calls, gaming, etc On the other hand, dial-up should be fine for doing e-mail, online banking, though it would be slow.
Pps

A software problem with dialup is the biggest problem. It takes roughly to 40 minutes Start the web page If I use dial up. Of course you could use A system like linux To optimize Add a browser that doesn't have all the extras. Well I suspect that How many sites were refused to let you Access them without modern software.

Regardless it means you have to have a extra level of technical skills to get your computer to work well.
I think she was getting a Product with a QR code. It's pure insult to the customer not to Include the manual. Paving the path towards internet serfdom.

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Wikipedia
One-way terrestrial return satellite Internet systems are used with conventional dial-up Internet access, with outbound (upstream) data traveling through a telephone modem, but downstream data sent via satellite at a higher rate.
You know how to use Wikpedia, but don't know how to find info on how QR codes work? That doesn't makes any sense. You said that "most of the West" uses satellite internet, but can't even list what cities or provinces you consider as "the West." So your statement is meaningless.

My apologies for weird Syntax. My device Rewrites on Naughty sites If it If it allowd me to go to them at all. Big brother and all. Never know what's gonna happen when I hit the button. Ai sucks. I have learned Some of the trigger words that Set it off ... Well it keeps on changing and deciding what I should say.
This is the dumbest excuse for bad writing I've ever seen on this site.

The John Deere Universe.
What are you even on about?
 
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