ChatGPT spells the end of university education as we know it

[dirtyharry555]

AI has made it easy for post-secondary students to fake their way to a degree. They argue that ChatGPT is just another study tool. Schools say it spells the end of university education as we know it.

Students are cheating. Professors are panicking. The system is unravelling. Scenes from the AI revolution on campus

AI has made it easy for post-secondary students to fake their way to a degree. They argue that ChatGPT is just another study tool. Schools say it spells the end of university as we know it

torontolife.com

 

[Adamxx]

Interesting, as many moons ago, if a household was lucky enough to house a set of encyclopedias, the children often achieved higher marks in many subjects, and schools had no issues with the tools utilized back then, as the encyclopedias assisted a few and encyclopedias were often recommended .

However, now technology has more or less levelled the playing field now, and there are some serious concerns.

Same can be said about many “aids’ the slide-rule or private lessons etc.

 

[Valcazar]

University education has had to change before.
It will change again.

 

[xix]

Interesting, as many moons ago, if a household was lucky enough to house a set of encyclopedias, the children often achieved higher marks in many subjects, and schools had no issues with the tools utilized back then, as the encyclopedias assisted a few and encyclopedias were often recommended .

However, now technology has more or less levelled the playing field now, and there are some serious concerns.

Same can be said about many “aids’ the slide-rule or private lessons etc.

Back then the student had to find the info. Extract info, what was relevant, write sentences by hand, or maybe type it out. Then double check his work - mother.

Now what I been told. Just type in 12 words and the AI will give you 1000 word essay in 3 mins or less.

Where is the work?

 

[tris_82]

Chat GPT is a language calculator. It will automate some skills like regular calculators and computers did. People will proceed to do higher level things.

 

[Darts]

Don't tell anybody. I had a tutor in my final year of high school (I had moved to Montreal for my final year of high school) to prepare me for the matriculation (not to be confused with masturbation) exams. She was pretty old (19), ethnic Polish, a student at McGill.

Did that give me an advantage?

 

[Adam_hadam]

I believe professors are smarter.
Prof AH would do this: In the course intro the final exam is worth peanuts say 15-20% because they know its coming. I would have no term papers however there will be 2 unannounced exams worth 40% + 40%. The lesson is be prepared for anything at anytime.
Today the kids with their technology need to be kept on their toes. I'd also throw questions in the exams to test their thought process and situations. There's A LOT of smart kids out there, challenge them.

 

[Adam_hadam]

Don't tell anybody. I had a tutor in my final year of high school (I had moved to Montreal for my final year of high school) to prepare me for the matriculation (not to be confused with masturbation) exams. She was pretty old (19), ethnic Polish, a student at McGill.

Did that give me an advantage?

I aced my masturbation exams. My Swedish head mistress complemented me on my technique then we had ice cream.

 

[southpaw]

University education has had to change before.
It will change again.

It seems to be changing back. To the old days of paper exams. This is a good sign.

When I was in Uni, there was so much cheating on assignments. Getting papers from students in higher years etc.

Kind of hard to cheat on a proctored paper exam. Maybe the kids will actually learn something now.

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abcnews.go.com

 

[JackBurton]

I believe professors are smarter.
Prof AH would do this: In the course intro the final exam is worth peanuts say 15-20% because they know its coming. I would have no term papers however there will be 2 unannounced exams worth 40% + 40%. The lesson is be prepared for anything at anytime.
Today the kids with their technology need to be kept on their toes. I'd also throw questions in the exams to test their thought process and situations. There's A LOT of smart kids out there, challenge them.

I agree with this.

What it will also do, for secondary and post secondary students is eliminate “busy work” bullshit assignments.

The teachers and profs need to be on their toes and be creative in a curriculum that promotes critical thinking and in person, real world based assignments. To display competence rather than regurgitate useless facts and assignments that are nothing but filler.

While they are at it, they should get rid of incompetent TAs who teach and tutor 1st college and university students. Most of them are a waste of space.

 

[canada-man]

Start by stopping overloading students with assignments

 

[kherg007]

Chatgpt gathers the wisdom of the masses, but the extent to which bs is pumped into the system it will drive bad info into chatgpt. There is software to detect chargpt, and Oral exams etc will now come back. Face to face will return.

 

[xix]

Chatgpt gathers the wisdom of the masses, but the extent to which bs is pumped into the system it will drive bad info into chatgpt. There is software to detect chargpt, and Oral exams etc will now come back. Face to face will return.

You mean cell to cell or facetime to facetime.

 

[escortsxxx]

Chat GPT is a language calculator. It will automate some skills like regular calculators and computers did. People will proceed to do higher level things.

5%Of the class Will use this to become smarter things The rest will become morons.
Case in point. They had to declare in Ontario that math was racist because elementary school teachers were supposed to teach math but not pass a simple math test with qustions such as What in order from least to greatest 1⁄8 1⁄4 .2

There is a reason that condos are raining Glass on to bloor... Calculators.

Worse you've been using this calculator gtp People will give you the wrong answer because the machine gives you the wrong answer just like google gets things wrong A small but significant times.

We are in Gibson's Last stage of the decay of an empire We're specialist stop knowing their own jobs and Learn only enough to do those jobs Without understanding them.

1 of the root reasons for the collapse of a civilization

 

[rhuarc29]

I don't see how it spells the end of university education. They'll just have to restrict grading to in-person activities. Exams, and smaller written assignments that can be completed in one sitting, with research being conducted the old-fashioned way.
Keep in mind that cheating was prevalent even before chatGPT. It was a simple matter to pay someone to do your essays and research assignments for you. In a way, chatGPT just puts the poor on the same level as the rich in terms of cheating ability!

This will force the universities to get off their asses and do a proper job with grading.

 

[lomotil]

Unless someone graduates from university with a degree that is immediately useful for employment like law, medicine, engineering, dentistry, nursing etc, time in school may be wasted with a “useless “ degree and ChatGPT will further this effect.
ChatGPT cannot fuck with the trades at least yet not yet
Maybe one day AI will see a robot crew building an entire condo.!

 

[dirtyharry555]

Unless someone graduates from university with a degree that is immediately useful for employment like law, medicine, engineering, dentistry, nursing etc, time in school may be wasted with a “useless “ degree and ChatGPT will further this effect.
ChatGPT cannot fuck with the trades at least yet not yet
Maybe one day AI will see a robot crew building an entire condo.!

 

[basketcase]

Chat GPT is a language calculator. It will automate some skills like regular calculators and computers did. People will proceed to do higher level things.

More importantly, the large language models make text that looks authoritative, not something factual.

One example.

Mushroom pickers urged to avoid foraging books on Amazon that appear to be written by AI

Sample of books scored 100% on AI detection test as experts warn they contain dangerous advice

www.theguardian.com

If you ask it, it will even provide authoritative looking sources for you work that simply look like sources. Don't try clicking on them.

 

[Valcazar]

I believe professors are smarter.
Prof AH would do this: In the course intro the final exam is worth peanuts say 15-20% because they know its coming. I would have no term papers however there will be 2 unannounced exams worth 40% + 40%. The lesson is be prepared for anything at anytime.
Today the kids with their technology need to be kept on their toes. I'd also throw questions in the exams to test their thought process and situations. There's A LOT of smart kids out there, challenge them.

You don't need unannounced exams. Announced ones are fine, it isn't like Chat GPT can help them there.

You can also flip it to make ChatGPT work for you.

Take a term paper project, bring it in. Feel free to tell them to use Chat GPT to write it.
The assessment will be how well you can defend the paper, take it apart, explain its reasoning, and justify its conclusions in an oral exam.

All Chat GPT does is make term papers not very useful as an assessment tool anymore.

 

[southpaw]

They'll just have to restrict grading to in-person activities. Exams, and smaller written assignments that can be completed in one sitting, with research being conducted the old-fashioned way.

You don't need unannounced exams. Announced ones are fine, it isn't like Chat GPT can help them there.

All good things in the long run, if the goal is to graduate competent people.