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It is irrelevant. There are no Nazis in India. That is a western ideal.

Yeah 329 dead people, 2700 policemen dead or 600 people massacred are vague definitions of terrorism for you.

I oppose terrorists wherever they may be and they need to be neutralized. Be they Hamas or Khalistani.
Israel/Palestine, India/Khalistan.
Both are violent repressions based on race.
 

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There is no colonial rule in India.
Maybe its better to term it sectarian rule, or supremacist based rule.
Your choice.

Al J has a piece detailing Indian pushing Islamaphobic hate on social media that is now attacking Palestinians as well.
Reminds me of someone....

Another account that shared the misleading video of Palestinians kidnapping sex slaves had previously written: “The only difference is when Muslim girls convert to Hinduism they live happily ever after. But when Hindu girls convert to Islam they end up in a suitcase or a fridge.”
Others have been more explicit in their hatred of Palestine.
One Indian account, purporting to belong to a retired Indian soldier, stated, “Israel must finish off Palestine from the planet.
”It is no secret that India has an Islamophobia problem, one that has only increasedsince the rise of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).A report by the Australia-based Islamic Council of Victoria found that the majority of all Islamophobic tweets can be traced back to India.
The plight of Palestinians has drawn Islamophobes like moths to a light and this can be witnessed on social media. Part of this online hatred can be traced to what has been called the “BJP’s IT Cell”, who have fanned the flames of hatred.
In her book, I Am a Troll, Swati Chaturvedi discusses the BJP’s online social media army. According to Sadhavi Khosla, one of Chaturvedi’s interviewees, “The BJP has a network of volunteers who take instructions from the social media cell, and two affiliated organisations, to troll critical voices.”
 

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See? They have freedom of expression something you said they did not have earlier under a Hindu Nationalist government. But this has nothing to do with what you were talking about.
I'm just pointing out that your views are those of HIndu Nationalists, not Muslims.
 

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India is a diverse country with diverse opinions. Muslims will generally support Palestine for sure because of religious affiliation. That is not news. There are however Indian Muslims who do not support Hamas as well.

There is a reason why Pakistan, Turkey, Oman and several other Muslim nations haven't openly supported Hamas and have remained silent after this latest attack. Look at the map below on how many Muslim countries have not even supported Hamas or Palestine explicitly, but rather made a general statement that they do not support any violence and many have remained silent. That should tell you everything you need to know.

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This isn't a debate about support for Hamas, this is a debate about support for Palestinian rights.

Hamas and the Israeli leadership should both be taken to the Hague.
 

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Why the Hague? Hamas is a terrorist group. You don't take terrorist groups to the Hague. You neutralize them and that is what Israel is doing. After it is done, then we can talk about how to move forward with Palestine. I think that is the order in which that conversation should happen.
That's exactly what Hamas said.
 

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Stop going around in circles. Hamas is a terrorist group. Israel is a legitimate nation state. What Hamas says about Israel is irrelevant especially after they mass murder innocent civilians.
Hamas, like Modi and Putin, were democratically elected. I say that because that's what your defence of Modi is. Hamas is still the government of Gaza.
Elected governments can also commit terrorism, as we've seen from Hamas, Israel, Putin and Modi.

For instance, when a government destroys an entire university, that's pretty clearly a civilian target. Terrorism.
 

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I don't need to defend Modi by saying he was democratically elected, because India is a full democracy and has always been. I say that because you want to call Modi a terrorist, when he is not. Modi as PM does not need any defense.

Hamas on the other hand may be elected, but they are just a terror group who target and mass murder civilians. Modi or Israel isn't doing that.

Once again, another example of you gaslighting and trolling.
The gaslighting/lying accusation was totally destroyed.


All you're doing is twisting like a pretzel to justify supporting racial supremacy in India and Israel/Palestine.
 

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You'd have to say that to yourself to make yourself believe it am sure. No one else is saying it though.

I am justifying counter terrorism action. There is no racial supremacy here.
You are justifying terrorism that you call counter terrorism.
Same as Hamas, same as Putin, same as ISIS.
 

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It is irrelevant. There are no Nazis in India. That is a western ideal.

Yeah 329 dead people, 2700 policemen dead or 600 people massacred are vague definitions of terrorism for you.

I oppose terrorists wherever they may be and they need to be neutralized. Be they Hamas or Khalistani.
Irrelevant. Is something mentally wrong with you?
Wake up, as you claim to be a "Christian"!!



 

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Irrelevant. Stop spazzing on about Modi and Hindu Nationalists. Take your Pakistani chill pills and watch the 4 videos I gave you to watch. What do you have to say about them?
So you hate the facts and are still fixated in your fake assertion of my identity. Yet you post some far right BJP/RSS BS videos that one is supposed to watch.
Anyway, I garbaged your notion that there are no Nazi Sympathizers in India. Suddenly you seem to think that it is "irrelevant" especially when you made that fake allegation in the first place!!
 

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If you read your own article beyond the headlines, you'd know it actually disproves your claim.

Again stop spazzing on about irrelevant things.

I gave you 4 videos that are relevant to the topic. What do you have to say about them? I am not engaging in anything else with you other than those 4 videos.
Your idol Modi even said this about the mainly Sikh Farmers that were protesting against his legislations:

When farmers camped out on the edges of New Delhi to protest controversial agriculture laws in 2020, Modi’s government initially tried to discredit Sikh participants by calling them “Khalistanis.” Under pressure, Modi government later withdrew the laws.
We know that Modi has suppressed the rights of Sikhs to even demonstrate for a separate Sikh State, and hence the arrest of Amritpal Singh and anyone who espouses for a separate Sikh State. Real facts unlike those biased videos!!

Amritpal Singh: Who is he and why was he arrested?
The 30-year-old self-styled preacher and Sikh separatist has been arrested after a month-long manhunt by Indian police.


We all know that Canada is A REAL DEMOCRACY, and that is why there were referendums in Quebec. That "Independent Quebec" has been put to rest, and we know that Modi will never have a similar referendum but designate everyone who demonstrates or expresses their views of a Khalistan as a "terrorist"!!
 

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This isn't a debate about support for Hamas, this is a debate about support for Palestinian rights.


Hamas and the Israeli leadership should both be taken to the Hague.
Could be a true statement if you weren't unwilling to actually criticize Hamas for what they've done.
 
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