Who Could Have Seen This Coming? All Over America, Blue Cities Are Facing A Severe Shortage Of Police Officers

[Darts]

Just like the wild wild west and/or Chicago.
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[Frankfooter]

Read the first couple links/quotes or is that too much to ask?

. And it’s more a case of the types of crimes. And more a case of economic opportunity vs uneducated rednecks, and lack of access. Not much different than inner cities.See also indigenous people in the further regions.

There are reasons young people leave rural communities. And small towns….you know…go to cities for university and then work live there????….”just saying”

And with respect to violent crime, the types of crimes in cities, and with what weapons…(vs farmers with shotguns) and whether or not there are increases, the types and what not.

read the rest

I know you think you are a clear communicator but you really aren't.

You seem to have a point but don't want to come out and clearly state it.
Is it:
1 - smart people leave rural areas because of opportunities so you are left with 'uneducated rednecks'
2 - you admit there are fewer prospects in the rural area you prefer
3 - you also admit there are fewer crimes in bigger cities but still think its worse because there are more gun deaths

Really, I can't tell what you are trying to say.

 

[Not getting younger]

I know you think you are a clear communicator but you really aren't.

You seem to have a point but don't want to come out and clearly state it.
Is it:
1 - smart people leave rural areas because of opportunities so you are left with 'uneducated rednecks'
2 - you admit there are fewer prospects in the rural area you prefer
3 - you also admit there are fewer crimes in bigger cities but still think its worse because there are more gun deaths

Really, I can't tell what you are trying to say.

Here we go again. Make it about me, instead of simply reading. No different than giving you the Human rights code. But not bothering to read it, nor understand the difference between
Best practices vs policies
Should not and can not
Application vs interview.

It’s not my responsibility, nor place to tell anyone X. I can add context, or a different way to look at something, provide food for thought however you want to label it. You seem to want and need “answers” per se. Need to be held by the hand.

If you want to believe the world is flat for example. That’s your choice, your perogative, your life.
***********
I will address a couple things.
-“smart” people leave rural areas. How about just disadvantaged, not unlike minorities ( think hard here)..and guessing about what crime is like and why in rural areas…would you say the same if we were talking about BLACKS in REGENT PARK!!!


-As more youth leave various parts of Canada, go to cities for post. Then stay to work/live. What does that say about your “uneducated” rational. and we all know educated has little bearing on intelligence…

-1 small town, +1 cities..
Oh, people in rural areas aren’t as educated.
SHOCK!!!!!!

2) I’ve only argued that fact in dozens of topics. See the center of the universe and all related topics ( demographics and economics go hand in hand..as does crime…Have you connected those dots yet)

NOR have you paused long enough to consider indigenous people. Whether in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Ontario….you think they don’t factor into your stats and the stats??????
Not at all, because um, people don’t think about them???

3) I’m trying to enlighten you. Get you to think.
obviously you didn’t consider indigenous people, you didn’t consider lack of economic activity leads to crime ( despite always arguing that when it comes to minorities and inner cities). I’m giving you information and data, that the types of crimes are different. Even up to suicides, alcoholism, domestic violence.

and with respect to the types of violent crime in cities.

As such, people living in some rural areas may be more at risk of firearm crime, but violent crime that occurs in urban areas is generally more likely to involve a firearm.

I thought American style violent crime wasn’t happening here?

Here’s more you could have read for yourself. Helped yourself. Reading, context and comp

• The majority of incidents involving a victim of firearm-related violent crime were solved (with at least one accused identified in the incident), with those in the rural North (83% in 2020) and rural South (72%) more often solved than those in urban areas (54%).
• 
  For women, firearm-related intimate partner violence (IPV) was most frequent in rural areas. In 2020, there were 8.1 female victims of firearm-related IPV per 100,000 female population in the rural South, and 31 per 100,000 in the rural North (compared to 4.1 in urban areas). Firearm-relatedIPV accounted for nearly one-third (32%) of female victims in the rural South and 38% in the rural North

 

[Frankfooter]

Here we go again. Make it about me, instead of simply reading. No different than giving you the Human rights code. But not bothering to read it, nor understand the difference between
Best practices vs policies
Should not and can not
Application vs interview.

It’s not my responsibility, nor place to tell anyone X. I can add context, or a different way to look at something, provide food for thought however you want to label it. You seem to want and need “answers” per se. Need to be held by the hand.

If you want to believe the world is flat for example. That’s your choice, your perogative, your life.
***********
I will address a couple things.
-“smart” people leave rural areas. How about just disadvantaged, not unlike minorities ( think hard here)..and guessing about what crime is like and why in rural areas…would you say the same if we were talking about BLACKS in REGENT PARK!!!


-As more youth leave various parts of Canada, go to cities for post. Then stay to work/live. What does that say about your “uneducated” rational. and we all know educated has little bearing on intelligence…

-1 small town, +1 cities..
Oh, people in rural areas aren’t as educated.
SHOCK!!!!!!

2) I’ve only argued that fact in dozens of topics. See the center of the universe and all related topics ( demographics and economics go hand in hand..as does crime…Have you connected those dots yet)

NOR have you paused long enough to consider indigenous people. Whether in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Ontario….you think they don’t factor into your stats and the stats??????
Not at all, because um, people don’t think about them???

3) I’m trying to enlighten you. Get you to think.
obviously you didn’t consider indigenous people, you didn’t consider lack of economic activity leads to crime ( despite always arguing that when it comes to minorities and inner cities). I’m giving you information and data, that the types of crimes are different. Even up to suicides, alcoholism, domestic violence.

and with respect to the types of violent crime in cities.



I thought American style violent crime wasn’t happening here?

Here’s more you could have read for yourself. Helped yourself. Reading, context and comp

• The majority of incidents involving a victim of firearm-related violent crime were solved (with at least one accused identified in the incident), with those in the rural North (83% in 2020) and rural South (72%) more often solved than those in urban areas (54%).
• 
  For women, firearm-related intimate partner violence (IPV) was most frequent in rural areas. In 2020, there were 8.1 female victims of firearm-related IPV per 100,000 female population in the rural South, and 31 per 100,000 in the rural North (compared to 4.1 in urban areas). Firearm-relatedIPV accounted for nearly one-third (32%) of female victims in the rural South and 38% in the rural North

Can you please proof read your posts?

It looks like you're arguing that there are more employment opportunities in cities, which is exactly what I said in conversation with Mandrill right here.
If you want to add discussion about indigenous issues feel free, but the short answer is you need to add in cultural genocide and systematic racism into that same formula.

Otherwise I'm not sure what you're offering here that is new to the discussion, other than there are more handguns and handgun crimes in the cities, though the cities are less prone to violent crime in general.

 

[crooked1200]

My guess is that crime rate is connected to education level. The lower the average education level, the higher the crime rate. Urban people tend to be more educated than rural people. Hence a lower crime rate. Hence the higher stats in rural provinces like MB and SK.

Hence the decline in crime since the 1970's peak. People just get more education now. There are fewer blue collar manual jobs and more white collar jobs with a less macho culture. So people fight less, smash up each other's cars less and steal each other's stuff less.

Guns are more available now and the drug trade has grown. But that's a factor in small town crime as well. And the drug trade is - I would guess - a constant since the 1990's.

education and school board funding is usually connected to property tax

that's partly how shitty neighborhoods get shitty schools and stay shitty - especially in usa

 

[John_Jacob]

that's partly how shitty neighborhoods get shitty schools and stay shitty - especially in usa

ya, the US model of funding by school district and not by city-wide taxes is fucked

 

[richaceg]

Can you please proof read your posts?

It looks like you're arguing that there are more employment opportunities in cities, which is exactly what I said in conversation with Mandrill right here.
If you want to add discussion about indigenous issues feel free, but the short answer is you need to add in cultural genocide and systematic racism into that same formula.

Otherwise I'm not sure what you're offering here that is new to the discussion, other than there are more handguns and handgun crimes in the cities, though the cities are less prone to violent crime in general.

Somehow you always manage to find fault somewhere rather than the root of the problem...BLUE cities were hellbound on minimizing police presence....what the fuck do you think will happen if you do that? CNN and the lefty media has demonized police in these areas and this is what you get...but somehow it's the NRA (what really has this got to do with NRA?) and rednecks are the problem even in inner cities...

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Non existent gun laws and low pay make very few people want to go risk their lives to not make any difference. It's funny how these right wing articles ignore the fact that this problem exists in all cities regardless of the governing party

 

[Not getting younger]

Non existent gun laws and low pay make very few people want to go risk their lives to not make any difference. It's funny how these right wing articles ignore the fact that this problem exists in all cities regardless of the governing party

So
Non existent gun laws. Yep. But then they are ripped and torn to shreds. For almost every incident where it’s not beyond obvious they are justified to use forcee. Often by the left? See also mistrust and some despising them.

Then there’s a soceity without access to healthcare, and mental health care. Especially in lower income brackets. Do they make good decisions? Commit crimes? Think they are eay to deal with? Easy to read and predictable? Volatile and violent?

 

[Frankfooter]

Somehow you always manage to find fault somewhere rather than the root of the problem...BLUE cities were hellbound on minimizing police presence....what the fuck do you think will happen if you do that? CNN and the lefty media has demonized police in these areas and this is what you get...but somehow it's the NRA (what really has this got to do with NRA?) and rednecks are the problem even in inner cities...

No, the defund argument was largely about using some police budget money to pay for social services to answer appropriate 911 calls instead of police.
Some angry types pushed ACAP but largely it was about moving resources.

 

[Frankfooter]

So
Non existent gun laws. Yep. But then they are ripped and torn to shreds.

Are they non existent or are they ripped to shreds?
You can't do both at the same time.

 

[Frankfooter]

Then there’s a soceity without access to healthcare, and mental health care.

What 'soceity' are you talking about here?

 

[Not getting younger]

You really struggle with reading, context and comprehension don’t you. I’ll ask a question I’m sure someone in grade 2 could answer correctly.

Which society does not have access to healthcare/mental healthcare. Especially in lower income brackets?

And because you so often nee to be held by the hand in life. Need answers instead of helping/thinking for yourself.

I replied to Dirty. Did you miss that? What country was he talking about? A grade 1 student can figure that out.. also what doesn’t the word “they” imply to you as well.

Almost forgot my question for a pre schooler. What country doesn’t have gun controls?

 

[Frankfooter]

You really struggle with reading, context and comprehension don’t you. I’ll ask a question I’m sure someone in grade 2 could answer correctly.

Which society does not have access to healthcare/mental healthcare. Especially in lower income brackets?

This is a poor use of the word 'society', you should discuss the terms that define the group you are talking about.
Is it an economic, social or racial group you are calling a 'society'?

And because you so often nee to be held by the hand in life. Need answers instead of helping/thinking for yourself.

I replied to Dirty. Did you miss that? What country was he talking about? A grade 1 student can figure that out.. also what doesn’t the word “they” imply to you as well.

Almost forgot my question for a pre schooler. What country doesn’t have gun controls?

I asked for clarification on a post that was poorly written and unclear and you responded with kindergarten level insults.

 

[Not getting younger]

Are they non existent or are they ripped to shreds?
You can't do both at the same time.

What the hell kind of idiotic comment, attempt at logic is that? Feeling feisty because once again…

 

[Not getting younger]

This is a poor use of the word 'society', you should discuss the terms that define the group you are talking about.
Is it an economic, social or racial group you are calling a 'society'?



I asked for clarification on a post that was poorly written and unclear and you responded with kindergarten level insults.

Problems with dictionaries, reading and comprehension. Grade school stuff Franky?

Soceity
the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
"drugs, crime, and other dangers to society"

Soceity
A society is a group of individuals involved in persistent social interaction or a large social group sharing the same spatial or social territory, typically subject to the same political authority and dominant cultural expectations.

Soceity
Society refers to the collective organization of individuals who interact, live together, and share common customs, values, and institutions. It is a social structure that shapes our behaviors, beliefs, and relationships.

Then there’s a soceity without access to healthcare, and mental health care. Especially in lower income brackets

It’s not me Franky, it’s you. Probably your lack of maturity or education, vocabulary and reading comprehension maybe both or all. Like grasping the difference between should not, or can not or applications/interviews. And given your penchant for “following people”, replying to stuff, trying to find any wee bone to try and score a point off, to salve your seriously bruised and battered ego…..I think I’ll go with all.

 

[toguy5252]

Who Could Have Seen This Coming? All Over America, Blue Cities Are Facing A Severe Shortage Of Police Officers

It turns out that we really do need the police after all. Do you remember a few years ago when blue cities all over the nation wanted to defund the police? Needless to say, that didn’t work out too well. Wherever police budgets were slashed, crime rates shot up. Today, we are in the midst...

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Who Could Have Seen This Coming? All Over America, Blue Cities Are Facing A Severe Shortage Of Police Officers

September 20, 2023 by Michael

It turns out that we really do need the police after all. Do you remember a few years ago when blue cities all over the nation wanted to defund the police? Needless to say, that didn’t work out too well. Wherever police budgets were slashed, crime rates shot up. Today, we are in the midst of a massive crime wave that is sweeping the country. In fact, it has gotten so bad that even many our most liberal politicians are desperate to restore law and order. But that won’t be so easy, because after everything that has transpired blue cities are discovering that they are having a really difficult time finding enough warm bodies to serve in their crime-ridden communities.

Just look at what is happening in Minneapolis. Since the death of George Floyd, the number of officers serving in the MPD has fallen by about 35 percent…

Once upon a time, Minneapolis was one of the most beautiful cities in the country.
But now it is a crime-infested hellhole, and at this point the city “has one of the lowest ratios of police officers to population” in the entire nation…

Similar things could be said about San Francisco.
The “City by the Bay” is one of the epicenters of our rapidly growing national drug crisis, and they are having such a hard time finding police officers that they have decided to start recruiting in Texas…

Yes, things have really gotten this bad.
Blue cities are having such difficulty hiring police officers that they must try to recruit them from red states.
This month, the SFPD will be making recruiting trips to four different Texas universities…

• Texas Southern University in Houston;
• Sam Houston State University in Huntsville;
• Prairie View A&M University; and
• Texas A&M University Corpus Christi.

If you always dreamed of serving as a police officer in a lawless city with hordes of drug addicts, this is your chance.
In Prince George’s County just outside of Washington D.C., authorities have decided to search for hundreds of new recruits in Puerto Rico because the shortage of police officers has become so severe…

At least they are still trying.
Other communities seem to have given up completely.
In Seattle, citizens are being instructed to “give up their car keys” and to give criminals “whatever they’re looking for” when they inevitably encounter violent thugs…

I have been to downtown Seattle, and I don’t plan on going back any time soon.
Of course these days you can literally be robbed anywhere.
On Sunday, a wealthy man in Connecticut was actually carjacked inside his own garage…

Driving an expensive vehicle can be fun.
But in our current social environment, it makes you a target.

It appears that those two criminals followed that man home.

Sadly, this sort of crime is rapidly rising all over the nation.
So from this point forward, make sure that nobody is following you when you are headed back to where you live.
If you do suspect that you are being followed, pull into a gas station, but don’t get out.
Circle around and watch to see if the vehicle that was potentially tailing you follows suit. If you are still being followed at that point, call the police and head toward the nearest police station. Only really stupid criminals will follow you there.
I wish that we did not have to constantly be on guard like this, but it is imperative to understand that our society has been fundamentally transformed.
Lawlessness reigns in major cities all over the United States, and I fully expect violent crime to get even worse during the years ahead of us

If course they should have seen it coming when every republican voted against increased funding for law enforcement. The gop are the de factor defunders of police.

 

[Not getting younger]

If course they should have seen it coming when every republican voted against increased funding for law enforcement. The gop are the de factor defunders of police.

It’s quite the conundrum ( hopefully Franky looks up the meaning first) of competing interest and political ideology.

Socioeconomic factors which basically means taxation to address and improve. Basically things we do in Canada, that they don’t…Things the right won’t be on side with.

Law and order stuff. “Hard on crime” let’s call that one. Things the left won’t be onside with.

The 2nd amendment and NRA. For example or illustration. They will scream “mental health” when someone goes postal. But will fight tooth and nail, against taxation and spending to try and pour some money into socio ( there’s that big word society) economic factors.

Likewise the Left. They will fight tooth and nail against law and order stuff, or getting budgets until control, so the money is there, to do the things they want.

 

[toguy5252]

It’s quite the conundrum ( hopefully Franky looks up the meaning first) of competing interest and political ideology.

Socioeconomic factors which basically means taxation to address and improve. Basically things we do in Canada, that they don’t…Things the right won’t be on side with.

Law and order stuff. “Hard on crime” let’s call that one. Things the left won’t be onside with.

The 2nd amendment and NRA. For example or illustration. They will scream “mental health” when someone goes postal. But will fight tooth and nail, against taxation to try and pour some money into socio economic factors.

Likewise the Left. They will fight tooth and nail against law and order stuff, or getting budgets until control, so the money is there, to do the things they want.

The difference is term d3fund police has been hijacked. Many in the left have talked about repreoritzing police spending and devoting more money to crime prevention and where police dollars are spent. The gop talks tough 9n crime and apprehension and punishment but do not want to spend the money to do so.

 

[Not getting younger]

The difference is term d3fund police has been hijacked. Many in the left have talked about repreoritzing police spending and devoting more money to crime prevention and where police dollars are spent. The gop talks tough 9n crime and apprehension and punishment but do not want to spend the money to do so.

Yes it has. As someone that has to confront people with varying degrees of mental health issues, and dozens of them, either try to deescalate the situation, recognize all kinds of diagnoses and how they present. Read them…

at times gain their trust I’m not there to hurt them, or defend myself or others, or depending on the situation, their own safety, how much force I’m allowed to use or not.

I know all too well how it’s been hijacked.