Was your first time sex, with an SP?

imperial_maxxx

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Many men don't have options these days but to indulge in their first sexual experience with a SP. Is it true for you?
 

B00blover

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Mine was in highschool with the local slut...so kind of? She never turned professional. Last I spoke with her she was trying for a kid with her husband....poor guy. I don't think he had or has any clue.
 
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Not for me, was a gf first.

I honestly thought SP for fs was not allowed in Canada until this summer I realized that advertising is allowed but going through paying is not?? Still a bit fuzzy on this can someone care to explain... Ive been naive & living under a rock.
 

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Not for me, was a gf first.

I honestly thought SP for fs was not allowed in Canada until this summer I realized that advertising is allowed but going through paying is not?? Still a bit fuzzy on this can someone care to explain... Ive been naive & living under a rock.
To my understanding, the illegal part is communicating for the purpose of purchasing sexual services. It is quite hazy, but generally the law is such that we as clients bear all the legal risk while the providers bear none.

Make sure to always provide your government ID and use your real number when booking!
 

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OP, why do you say many men don’t have options these days and have to resort to SP’s, especially for their first time?
Stats suggest he's correct. Men are losing their virginity later than ever and more and more men seem to be having less and less sex.

Social media is the reason commonly cited for this change.
 
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To my understanding, the illegal part is communicating for the purpose of purchasing sexual services. It is quite hazy, but generally the law is such that we as clients bear all the legal risk while the providers bear none.

Make sure to always provide your government ID and use your real number when booking!
In summary the current laws criminalize buying and communicating for the purposes of buying sex. Selling is not illegal, buying is.
 

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Many men don't have options these days but to indulge in their first sexual experience with a SP. Is it true for you?
No (it actually was with a much older woman- different story). And I wouldn’t recommend your first time be with an sp, though I understand some guys might feel they have no other options.
 
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So what is the law expect? Do they expect people to sell and noone buys? (what is their logic?)
They want to target the people using the services (us) and the people profiting off the working girls (pimps/spa/agency owners), while not further victimizing an already vulnerable group. Or so they say.

In reality, arresting most sex workers would do little to impact their lives, while arresting most clients will have significant impacts to their life, so I assume it's seen as easier (in the laws eyes) to stamp out demand rather than supply. Completely retarded if you ask me but that seems to be the "logic".
 

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Actually thats a very logical way to stamp it out, which had been their end game. But the police have far more serious concerns than dealing with two consenting adults paying for a service. They are far more concerned with the darker side of prostitution which doesn't involve consenting adults, which is abundant. Lots of info on the laws in the lounge.

Back to the OP, I lost my virginity in high school. Only discovered sex services in my mid 20's. Kinda wish I hadn't though.

Having a teenager in my house now, I can absolutely agree that times have changed. Social media and online gaming I would blame.
 

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Actually thats a very logical way to stamp it out, which had been their end game. But the police have far more serious concerns than dealing with two consenting adults paying for a service. They are far more concerned with the darker side of prostitution which doesn't involve consenting adults, which is abundant. Lots of info on the laws in the lounge.

Back to the OP, I lost my virginity in high school. Only discovered sex services in my mid 20's. Kinda wish I hadn't though.

Having a teenager in my house now, I can absolutely agree that times have changed. Social media and online gaming I would blame.
Trying to get men to no longer pay for sex is a logical approach? Sure, and telling people to "Just Say No" to drugs worked wonders.
 
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MyBigToe?

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No SP for me. I was 13, she was an 18 yr old waitress, where I worked, in the back of a firebird of all places.
I can see living online as playing a role. When I was a teen, all I wanted was to be out and learning how to flirt. You took your lumps and finessed your skills. Everyone is so risk averse these days, it is easier to hole up in your cave and interact through a screen.
 

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So what is the law expect? Do they expect people to sell and noone buys? (what is their logic?)
Well, there is little logic, except the Nordic model of prostitution laws considers the sex worker the victim, and the client the perpetrator. So they prosecute the perpetrators and leave the victims alone. Specifically in Canada, our old sex work laws criminalized most of the activities around prostitution (selling sex, being in a “bawdy house” ie incall, living off the avails etc) but left buying itself technically legal. Those laws were struck down as unconstitutional, as it was ruled they violated sex workers rights. Then we had a period with essentially no law about buying/ selling sex. Then the conservatives successfully passed C36, which was modeled after the Nordic model as I stated above. So they complied with the earlier Supreme Court ruling by allowing SWs to sell sex, and do so from their own safe spaces, but criminalized buying.
 
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Could be but here is an Economist's (yes really) nerding out the data take on it. Charts on in the link.

The Data
In the US, the portion of young men between the ages of 18 to 34 who report having at least one partner has fallen substantially in recent years :
35 to 49 year olds - who are doing just fine, from a partnering point of view
50 to 64 year olds, where there is perhaps a slight downwards trend, and a big gap between male and female sexual activity rates


The Question
If substantially more men between 50 and 64 are sexually active than women, who are these middle-aged men having sex with? (this would be us)

Conclusion
Men over 50 constitute a greater portion of the US population today than at any other point in human history. The number of young women, relative to the number of older men, is steadily shrinking.
The most likely scenario is that a number of men in their 50s and early 60s are having sex with younger women, that is women in their late 30s and 40s. What do men 35 to 49 do in response? They too have sex with younger women, raising female sexual activity rates in the 18 to 34 year old range. What about men in the 18 to 34 year old range? They can date younger women too - yet there are hard limits on this dating-younger-women strategy. Consequently, a number of the youngest men find themselves without partners.


Essentially, cohort size (population of young men & women relative to the older men) matters.
So I see what you're saying, regarding the cohort differences, but I would still wonder what is driving younger women into the arms of older men at increasingly higher rates. Is it really only the sheer availability? Why are the youngest women (18-34) not pairing with men closer to their age to begin a family? Are they having families with the older men, or not at all?

I would still think social media is having a selection effect of some sort. Dating sites suggest that only a small percentage of men get all the likes and matches, according to a video I watched recently.
 

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So I see what you're saying, regarding the cohort differences, but I would still wonder what is driving younger women into the arms of older men at increasingly higher rates. Is it really only the sheer availability? Why are the youngest women (18-34) not pairing with men closer to their age to begin a family? Are they having families with the older men, or not at all?

I would still think social media is having a selection effect of some sort. Dating sites suggest that only a small percentage of men get all the likes and matches, according to a video I watched recently.
I agree. I hop on tinder and bumble all the time, albeit I don’t put much effort nor haven’t came up with new better photos to post, my matches are limited and even when I have 15-20 potential waiting matches, none of them are my type. My waiting matches are usually way older, overweight, etc just not my type. The ones I match with to start a convo, the convo usually goes no where.
 

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So I see what you're saying, regarding the cohort differences, but I would still wonder what is driving younger women into the arms of older men at increasingly higher rates. Is it really only the sheer availability? Why are the youngest women (18-34) not pairing with men closer to their age to begin a family? Are they having families with the older men, or not at all?
If I had to guess, the older men own their home and are more financially stable.
it sucks being a younger guy these days. Less money, more debt, the chance of being able to live alone is getting slimmer.
 
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