You mean the racist, apartheid, ethnic cleansing cause that you crow about? That’s the ultimate lost cause. You wouldn’t feel compelled to post on here if the Palestinian cause was lost.
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Its not "crowing" its acceptance of the reality on the ground. After numerous attempts to start wars that all failed some of the financial backers of Hamas are now moving on. And most likely set up trade deals with Israel. Because its in the interests of those nations to side against Iran. And become pro West.
And Israel will continue to expand because they can. The Palestinians will continue to be displaced because they won't accept peace and the fact they have lost.
In 25 years it will be 100 years. And the narrative will be, why don't they get it?
You say that in a thread that shows attitudes have shifted in Canada and the majority sees Israel as apartheid.
The world is moving on, its taking a stand against apartheid.
The one state solution is here.
There is no state of Palestine, only Israel.
And its a one state, apartheid solution.
So the only logical move is to campaign to end apartheid.
Mandela was labelled a terrorist for a long time.
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No. But it does completely destroy the ethnic cleansing claims (especially since 1/4 of Palestinians in Israeli territory chose to remain and peacefully became Israeli citizens - There were at least as many Jews ethnically cleansed from territory that Jordan conquered as there were Palestinians forcefully removed by the Israeli forces).
But you should really look at the different phases of the conflict because it sure as hell wasn't an Israeli attack the whole way through. For instance, some of those soldiers that people wanted to avoid were the Lebanese, Syrian, Jordanian, Iraqi, and Egyptian soldiers after their armies declared war and invaded.
I posted links to actual academic analysis of the refugee situation. It would benefit you to consider them instead of just exhibiting an extremely superficial analysis of the history.
Speaking of low IQ, it seems you're not able to add anything to the discussion other than your moronic insults. Try opening a book sometime, make notes about what it says, and try and actually discuss it.
And yes, Walid Khalidi did point out that very few of the Palestinian refugees were actually forced out by Israeli troops. You linking to wikipedia (and ignoring most of what is says) doesn't make you any more right than a flat earther.
So you admit you have a colonial viewpoint where it is okay to impose your will on ethnic minorities. Nice.
And since there are many well non-governmental militias among the Palestinians, how are you going to convince them to peacefully accept what you want them forced into.
Yes. Every single Jew in Old Jerusalem and lands around it were forcefully removed from by the Jordanian army and sometimes butchered by Arab irregulars. Oh wait, you don't want to discuss that.
More franky stupidity. You yourself posted the proposed map of Olmert's offer. But since you need to play dumb to justify your views, Here's what Al Jazeera published
You mean actual facts? Thanks for playing. It's as dumb as saying I'm racist for mentioning that yes, Hamas is a terror group.
Speaking of red herrings, the targets of those attacks were communities that legally lived there for centuries. But sure, in your mind it makes sense to attack some Jews because you don't like other Jews legally immigrating.
p.s. Any comment on the fact Palestinains don't want a One State peace. Funny to see all you guys pretending to support Palestinian rights by ignoring Palestinian rights.
Moronic again.
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Wow. You should really look at some history. Absolutely no Arabs were forced to sell land by the Brits. Making up claims doesn't help.
You're just being dumb. Very few of the 20 million people there want a One State peace yet you still demand they do it. That is a colonial idea with you absolutely saying you know more than them.Adorable. If by "colonial viewpoint" and "impose your will" you mean prevent attempts to purge millions of people on either side, then yes. You can keep pretending that's a bad thing all you want as you literally support Nazi ideology
The same way you stop anyone from murdering anyone else...with a police force. If Palestinians are given equal rights then obviously the attacks will start fizzling out as the motivation dries up.
p.s. Who's going to make the non-governmental groups give up their arsenals? What police force? Hamas has been at war with Israel and the PA for almost two decades and it hasn't stopped them or any of the other armed groups from acting. Do you think the UN is going to empower troops to disarm them
Are you going to get into a philosophical argument about no one 'owning' land? Are you saying that the Ottoman Empire wasn't able to control its own borders?
BTW. Hypocrisy alert because who gave the Brits permission to sell land in Canada? If you think legal land sales in Ottoman and Mandate Palestine were illegitimate then you're living on stolen land too.
Nice justification for your blatant hypocrisy. Other people should be accountable for things 100 years ago but you shouldn't.
And you really think the PA, Hamas, Or other Palestinian factions are interested in any different? Seems you're just another elitist who thinks they don't deserve any criticism for their rejection of peace and endorsement of violence.
Olmert never drew that map or made an official offer, Abbas had to make a rendering on a napkin.
That is as close as you've got to Israel ever offering a two state solution and it didn't include a map that Olmert signed off on.
Olmert shares that tactic with you, not providing a map.
You also claim to support the two state solution but have never been able to draw it on a map.
In fact, you can not even provide a map with the borders of Israel right now.
You refuse to state where you think Israel ends and Palestine begins, which just means you think its all Israel.
Apartheid Israel.
