People of Colour judge Bidenomics.

basketcase

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They sure did with Trump in various spreads. Anyway its about trends. And they are showing more blavk men heading towards Trump. Not the GOP. Trump. You need to start seperating them.
Eight people makes a trend as long as Butler likes what they say.
 

Butler1000

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Yes, I already mentioned the 2020 election.
Less movement than we saw in earlier shifts away from Democrats and also you claimed there was a specifically "pro-Trump" shift happening now.

Articles from 2020 don't address that, we need something from 2023. (Or maybe late 2022 on the edge.)
Ready?

Its about personality and promises kept.

Obama, in the eyes of many Black Americans did nothing. They were disproportionately affected by the sub prime mortgage failure that result in 500,000 foreclosures, while the banks were bailed out. 85 million Americans are uninsured or under insured. No justice reform. Supported gay marriage( yes black evangelicals are very homophobic). And did not stop the wars. All promises he failed on in their opinion. His charisma, also works against him as it makes him a focal point for the ire. Hence the losses.


But he didn't run against Trump. Then really the main factor in the increase over the Trump presidency can be explained that he did something right. And he did. The First Step Act, and pardons were issued. He signed the deal on Afghanistan to withdraw, and put no new troops on the ground. And did the Scotus thing that resulted in Row v Wade, that Black evangelicals liked as much as white ones.

You may not like the reasons, but the factors are pretty clear.

And polling is sparse at the moment. But imo it will bear out what I'm saying.

You guys go ahead and tut tut. That's how he got in the first time. To best him you have to understand the mindsets. And take no constituency for granted.
 
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Valcazar

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Ready?

Its about personality and promises kept.

Obama, in the eyes of many Black Americans did nothing. They were disproportionately affected by the sub prime mortgage failure that result in 500,000 foreclosures, while the banks were bailed out. 85 million Americans are uninsured or under insured. No justice reform. Supported gay marriage( yes black evangelicals are very homophobic). And did not stop the wars. All promises he failed on in their opinion. His charisma, also works against him as it makes him a focal point for the ire. Hence the losses.


But he didn't run against Trump. Then really the main factor in the increase over the Trump presidency can be explained that he did something right. And he did. The First Step Act, and pardons were issued. He signed the deal on Afghanistan to withdraw, and put no new troops on the ground. And did the Scotus thing that resulted in Row v Wade, that Black evangelicals liked as much as white ones.

You may not like the reasons, but the factors are pretty clear.

And polling is sparse at the moment. But imo it will bear out what I'm saying.

You guys go ahead and tut tut. That's how he got in the first time. To best him you have to understand the mindsets. And take no constituency for granted.
So you have nothing backing you up here other than your own personal narrative?
No numbers saying this is actually a thing that is happening now? A specifically "black men moving to support Trump" like you said?

It's all just vibes again?
 

Butler1000

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So you have nothing backing you up here other than your own personal narrative?
No numbers saying this is actually a thing that is happening now? A specifically "black men moving to support Trump" like you said?

It's all just vibes again?
What I find amazing about you is your inability to be able to process information and reach a conclusion. The premise of all your posts is someone else's opinion must be the basis for your own and everyone else's. You can't fathom someone coming to a conclusion on their own, but must only site the opinion of other's(so called experts).

You really just wait for people to give you their opinion, don't you?
 
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richaceg

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Actually the economy is doing just fine on all the standard parameters.

Go complain about Major the Dog again.
Of course that's what you think...US economy doesn't directly affect you...LoL...how blind can you get...gas is record high...inflation,
 

richaceg

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Anyone who judge the economy of the richest country on earth on the sitting president alone is so stupid he should not be allowed to vote.

Green plant don't vote.
But it was judged when Trump was the president.....shows you both stupid and hypocrites alike...
 
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mandrill

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But it was judged when Trump was the president.....shows you both stupid and hypocrites alike...
Sure, there'll always be those who project their feelings onto 1 person. Like Buddy does. Heavens! How he hates Joe Biden!

But 1 guy doesn't control the economy, whether it be Trump, Biden or Obama.
 
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Of course that's what you think...US economy doesn't directly affect you...LoL...how blind can you get...gas is record high...inflation,
Yuh. All 100% Biden's fault.
 

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What I find amazing about you is your inability to be able to process information and reach a conclusion. The premise of all your posts is someone else's opinion must be the basis for your own and everyone else's. You can't fathom someone coming to a conclusion on their own, but must only site the opinion of other's(so called experts).

You really just wait for people to give you their opinion, don't you?
Valcazar is quite good at differentiating between informed and well researched opinions and opinions from people who nothing.
Every asshole has a right to an opinion, the question is should we listen to it or is it just fart noises in the wind?
 

mandrill

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I though he's gonna fix what Trump has created....doesn't sound like he's done anything....
What in particular did you want him to fix?

Inflation is a world wide problem.
 

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But it was judged when Trump was the president.....shows you both stupid and hypocrites alike...
I judged Trump on being an idiot uncultured bully ass hole prick. But never on his positive or negative role on the economy.

Beside being a racist idiot the only thing we can judge Trump personally is that he gave a voice to bigotry and racism which divided the country like no time in recent history.
 
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Valcazar

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What I find amazing about you is your inability to be able to process information and reach a conclusion. The premise of all your posts is someone else's opinion must be the basis for your own and everyone else's. You can't fathom someone coming to a conclusion on their own, but must only site the opinion of other's(so called experts).

You really just wait for people to give you their opinion, don't you?
That's hilarious coming from you, of all people.
But how is asking you for the sources backing your opinion me waiting for someone to give me my opinion?

You have a tendency to make grandiose claims about "what is really happening" and base them on things you can't back up with anything other than vibes.
You don't like evidence and just roll it into whatever your pre-approved Narrative is.

Therefore, when dealing with you, I tend to ask where you are getting things from because it is interesting to see what mix of actual facts, fake facts, and complete bullshit you can't even point to someone else saying your ideas are made up from.
 

Butler1000

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That's hilarious coming from you, of all people.
But how is asking you for the sources backing your opinion me waiting for someone to give me my opinion?

You have a tendency to make grandiose claims about "what is really happening" and base them on things you can't back up with anything other than vibes.
You don't like evidence and just roll it into whatever your pre-approved Narrative is.

Therefore, when dealing with you, I tend to ask where you are getting things from because it is interesting to see what mix of actual facts, fake facts, and complete bullshit you can't even point to someone else saying your ideas are made up from.
You are really incapable of critical thinking.
 
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