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I'm surprised she lasted this long to be honest. She was not a healthy person either mentally or physically. Sad because she was a very talented singer and musician. Her first two albums were very good.
Lion and the Cobra is an unbelievably good debut album.

Her later stuff is also quite good. She just was never going to be a pop star after being blackballed. Her live stuff remained strong.
 

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Very sad. RIP

Side note, did anyone not know the song "Nothing Compares 2 U" was composed by Prince?
 

Valcazar

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Very sad. RIP

Side note, did anyone not know the song "Nothing Compares 2 U" was composed by Prince?
Doubt it.
It was never a hidden thing. She even kept the way Prince used to spell things in the title.

Sinead did lots of cover songs and never pretended they weren't just that.
 

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Right or wrong, she took a stand knowing full well the fall out that would come from it.

Then she stood her ground for 30 yrs. Never gave an inch.

Respect.
If it weren't for the controversy would she be as well known? Good marketing.
 
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If it weren't for the controversy would she be as well known? Good marketing.
Maybe not. Who knows?

She always said she wasn’t a pop star, rather, a protest singer.

Real interesting life trajectory.
 

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If it weren't for the controversy would she be as well known? Good marketing.
More well known, I'd guess.
She was very big and that derailed the "star" push she had going.
It's possible she would have faded immediately and not been remembered, but more likely she would have had a few more hit albums and be remembered for that.

Impossible to say for sure.
 

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Very sad. RIP

Side note, did anyone not know the song "Nothing Compares 2 U" was composed by Prince?
Who wrote it for U2.
and is also dead......coincidence?........

another Irish singer who was a total downer
 
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Prince claims she recorded the song without his knowledge, and he wasn't pleased with her version. He requested a meeting with her at his place and things allegedly became violent.
I know he wasn't pleased with her version, but I've never heard the "recorded without his knowledge" thing.
I suppose it might be true - her manager and his might have settled the rights to do a cover without ever telling him.
 
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I know he wasn't pleased with her version, but I've never heard the "recorded without his knowledge" thing.
I suppose it might be true - her manager and his might have settled the rights to do a cover without ever telling him.
Not that either of them care at this point.
 

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In 1992, the whole world has decided Sinéad O’Connor was awful after she ripped up a picture of the pope.

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So when she went to a Bob Dylan tribute concert where she was asked to perform, she was booed off the stage by the audience, who considered her a crazy attention seeker.



Singer and actor Kris Kristofferson was also near the stage, one of the performers present that day. He comforted O’Connor in front of everyone. He felt she was brave, and misunderstood. He asked her why she did what she did.

Kristoffer then wrote a song for Sinéad O’Connor. Sister Sinead, it’s called.

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Here are the lyrics:

”I’m singing this song for my sister Sinead
Concerning the god awful mess that she made
When she told them her truth just as hard as she could
Her message profoundly was misunderstood

There's humans entrusted with guarding our gold
And humans in charge of the saving of souls
And humans responded all over the world
Condemning that bald headed brave little girl

And maybe she's crazy and maybe she ain't
But so was Picasso and so were the saints
And she's never been partial to shackles or chains
She's too old for breaking and too young to tame

It's askin' for trouble to stick out your neck
In terms of a target a big silhouette
But some candles flicker and some candles fade
And some burn as true as my sister Sinead

And maybe she's crazy and maybe she ain't
But so was Picasso and so were the saints
And she's never been partial to shackles or chains
She's too old for breaking and too young to tame”

“Too old for breaking, and too young to tame”. It’s beautiful to me. Kris Kristofferson was in his fifties, he just saw Sinéad as a kid; he had daughters her age. So when the audience booed her, and the world “cancelled” her, he did what no one else did — he listened. Listened, understood, then defended her in song.
 
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She never wanted to be a pop star.
True.
But she was also robbed of the chance to be someone who re-invents herself in different musical styles in the public eye.
Something broader than a pop star.

Would she have done that?
Or would it have been like Fiona Apple who burned out because the music industry demanding she was a pop star sucked and she came back later on her own terms?
I don't know.

But I do think she would be better known if she hadn't spoken out.
 

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Well. She was right about the catholic church. Probably would have been better to poke fun at it rather than take it on head on.
 
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