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Frankfooter

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1) As I posted, only 21% support being forced into equality with Jews. Last I checked, 28% is much bigger than 21%. You keep claiming to support self determination so why is it you ignore what Palestinians (or Israelis) want?

2) Why do you think it good that 71% of Palestinians support violence as a solution? You keep claiming to support peace but you repeatedly give Palestinians a pass. Just more evidence of your thinking Palestinians are that far beneath you. Well over 50% of Palestinians support attacks on civilians. Why are you afraid to admit that's a bad thing?
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Oh that's right, you think being a Jew in the region means you lose civilian status.
You're gaslighting here, basketcase.
Where have I ever said its good that Palestinians are resorting to violence?

I've consistently argued against violence, for the end of apartheid and for equal rights.
My preference has always been the end of apartheid followed by full democracy and equal rights for all.

Why do you continue to support apartheid, settler colonialism and the violence of the occupation?

 

Frankfooter

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Is this the 'whataboutism' N was talking about (as you refuse to even admit there is Palestinian terrorism)
There is Palestinian terrorism, there is much, much more Israeli terrrorism.
Of course I focus on the group committing and instigating more of acts of 'terrorism'.

Which is why I call for both sides to be equally investigated while this thought makes you incredibly angry.

This is not being done by both sides.
 
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Klatuu

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Whataboutism is simply an excuse for racists to avoid criticisms of anything other than their obsessive target.

But you could prove me wrong and identify things about the PA and Hamas that are interfering with peace and human rights of Palestinians.
So, then you turn around and practice the exactly the same whataboutism as CM. Your best days are so far behind you grandpa.
 
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Klatuu

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It really is something, isn't it?
Israel at the brink of a 'civil war', which is a fight between:
two types of Zionism, the pre and post-1967 Zionism; in other words, between the more liberal and secular Zionism and more fanatic and fascistic Zionism.

You got two flavours of colonialism, the fascist kind CM and jcpro push and the pretend secular version basketcase pretends to favour.
But its a bit like the monty python German sketch 'just don't mention the war (occupation)'

 
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basketcase

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You're gaslighting here, basketcase.
Where have I ever said its good that Palestinians are resorting to violence?
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Every time you have made excuses and supported it. More importantly, instead of criticizing the significant number of Palestinians who support attacks on civilians or who think violence is a solution, you just make up more shit about Jewish civilians not actually being civilians.


p.s. You do realize that tweet is supporting occupation based on ethnic cleansing right? That property was Jewish owned until the Jordanian army ethnically cleansed all Jews from the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem. Does this mean you also think that Jews that have been living in formerly Arab owned land for the past 75 years also have the right to stay? Oh wait, that's just more of your racist double standard.
 

basketcase

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Stop with the gaslighting, its boring.

Maybe you should be busy telling us which group of zionists you think should win and hold power over the native population.
Give me a break. We both know that your only interest in this is as an excuse to criticize Israel more and a hope that Israel destroys itself. You have no interest in human rights unless it fits your disgusting combination of Jew hatred and low expectations of Arabs.
 

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There is Palestinian terrorism,...
Really? Why don't you give some examples because every time I've posted examples of Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians, you keep making excuses for it. I've posted all these stories before. Can you show me a single post where you've criticized these attacks or admitted they were terrorism?


On the last one your only comment was a conspiracy theory that there was no attack and Israeli forces killed the tourist.
 
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