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Darts

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Again, this guy I met is on a disability pension that pays a bit north of $1,100 a month. He pays $400 for a room so that leaves over $700 for other stuff. He also recently took a job as a crossing guard. Yes, it is very possible to live in Toronto on $1,100 a month.

BTW: I think all or nearly all international students come from rich families. Yes, no, maybe? The article below was true 10 years ago and I think still true to-day.

"Chinese students in the US purchased just under $15.5 billion worth of new and used cars in the 2012-13 school year, according to the latest data provided by market research firm CNW Research. Mercedes-Benz, Lexus and BMW were, far and away, the most preferred brands."
A lust for speed: Young, rich and Chinese in rural America - BBC Worklife
 

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Plantation owners in the antebellum South ensured that their field slaves had a roof over their heads at nightfall.
I never said it is a great career option for people to aspire to. The point is that they can get by and not be homeless. The thread is about homelessness. I dont know how many times I have to keep repeating this lol.
My point was that slaves in the Southern US had homes, they were given food, and they were clothed, they just weren't paid for their labour. Someone earning minimum wage in Toronto wouldn't have much left over after paying for their clothes, food and shelter. Housing costs are much cheaper in a smaller town, but owning a car there is a necessity rather than a luxury.
 

John_Jacob

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I highly doubt minimum wage jobs are sponsoring people. The ones who are sponsored probably already work for that company in their country of origin and they are just sent here temporarily.
This is only one aspect - and the most benign - of the Foreign Worker program/International Mobility Program/sponsoring and likely the smallest. Most of the sponsoring is for "Program requirements for low-wage positions". For yes indeed, workers are sponsored for minimum & low wage jobs.


Eligible sponsoring includes;
  • Construction (NAICS 23)
  • Food manufacturing (NAICS 311)
  • Wood product manufacturing (NAICS 321)
  • Furniture and related product manufacturing (NAICS 337)
  • Hospitals (NAICS 622)
  • Nursing and residential care facilities (NAICS 623)
  • Accommodation and food services (NAICS 72)
I mean, with inflation, why the hell would you offer to give your existing workers a wage when you can hire up to 30% of your staff as sponsored foreign works.

How Canada became a hotbed for low-wage foreign labour

I open to be wrong but I think you have your blinders on, for whatever reasons that have little to do with working class I suspect, and are ignoring the exploitation that is going on or think it's not that bad due to your favorable position in society. You're welcome to research your opinions on your own and prove me wrong.
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John_Jacob

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Show your math, please. How many hours per week would someone earning $15 per hour have to work to clear $2K per month? Income Tax, EI and CPP deduction will drop the $15 per hour gross amount down to at least $12.

This link will help:

The basic match for a person making $40K a year is not $10K but closer to 8K. Looking at the combined Fed/Ontario income tax tables, it's $40K x .2005 = $8, 020.

But here is the kicker, the Basic Personal Amount is $15,000 in 2023 meaning a person making $40K a year effectively pays no tax.

So, not $10K


TaxTips.ca - Combined Federal & Ontario Tax Brackets and Tax Rates Including Surtaxes
2023 Taxable Income (1)
ON 2023 Marginal Tax Rates​
Other
Income
first $49,231​
20.05%​
over $49,231 up to $53,359​
24.15%​
over $53,359 up to $86,698​
29.65%​
over $86,698 up to $98,463​
31.48%​
over $98,463 up to $102,135​
33.89%​
over $102,135 up to $106,717​
37.91%​
over $106,717 up to $150,000​
43.41%​
over $150,000 up to $165,430​
44.97%​
over $165,430 up to $220,000​
48.29%​
over $220,000 up to $235,675​
49.85%​
over $235,675​
53.53%​

This is not unusual since approximately 40% (much higher now IRCC) pay no income taxes.

Trudeau is right: 40% of Canadians don’t pay income taxes, which means someone else is picking up the bill

The top 20% of income earners pay 70% of the taxes, way back in 2019. Again, I think it's closer to 73% now.
 

Darts

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on international students. They pay an absolute fortune for their tuition.
Yes, they pay full fare. They are not subsidized by Canadian taxpayers. My roommate in university was from Singapore so I know he paid full fare. However, he came from a rich Singapore family and I came from a poor rural Quebec family.

(I also had a part-time job delivering meals for a restaurant. It didn't pay much but I met a lot of naked women at the door but that is another story, LOL.)

When I was at McGill the policy was 15% foreign students. I hear it is now 30% foreign students.
 
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Darts

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Not always. A lot of international students these days get scholarships. As an international student I had a 50% scholarship. I know many who had 100%.
Yes, the expectation (hope?) is that you will bring prestige and honour to the institution by doing great work (e.g. finding a cure for cancer) and/or be a benefactor (e.g. money).
 
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