Trudeau is a very light-brained EXTREMELY woke individual who is a total embarrassment to Canada on the world stage .
Toronto's homeless life span is only 42 years old (half of general population): 3 die each week
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The problem is seriously compounded by Trudeau’s govt failure to return economic migrants back to the USA, after they crossed illegally into our country.
I have acquaintances working with CBA who tell me many of these migrants have cell phones, US bank accounts, and own property in Central America.
Many go underground, working illegally using fraudulent or stolen id, while others spend time in the shelters, where they enjoy free food, clothing, health care etc..
None of these migrants should be allowed to even apply for refugee status, because under UN conventions, they can, and should, be returned to the last safe country…..the US. But, this would make Trudeau look bad, and nothing matters more to him, than his self-serving megalomania which drives everything in the PMO.
Meanwhile, Canadians suffering on the edge of society, get a MEC tent and free TTC passes, if they are lucky.
I have acquaintances working with CBA who tell me many of these migrants have cell phones, US bank accounts, and own property in Central America.
Many go underground, working illegally using fraudulent or stolen id, while others spend time in the shelters, where they enjoy free food, clothing, health care etc..
None of these migrants should be allowed to even apply for refugee status, because under UN conventions, they can, and should, be returned to the last safe country…..the US. But, this would make Trudeau look bad, and nothing matters more to him, than his self-serving megalomania which drives everything in the PMO.
Meanwhile, Canadians suffering on the edge of society, get a MEC tent and free TTC passes, if they are lucky.
If I think back to where I grew up. Which was pretty damn close to where that lady caught one. Back to when friends lived in Regent Park. Walking through there at all hours. Going to Yonge St at all hours, especially the Biltmore and The other ( forget name) that played all night movies. Partying on Yonge atNew Years eve. Then the changes that started when I worked in the core as an adult. Compared all that to today….
it’s not going to be pretty.
You really think so? If you ask Frankfooter and Anbarandy it's all Doug Ford's fault. Trudeau can do no wrong. lol
Trudeau is the hero of the wokies and virtue signalers. He does love his photo ops. He brings refugees and asylum seekers to Canada and sticks the cost to the cities.
I'm sure they all bear some collective effort, they are all politicians. Our system is totally broken and everyone seems just fine with doing nothing about it.
There are a lot of homeless people in my neighbourhood, and I know many of them by sight, but perhaps only a handful by name. Here are some myths and realities:
Homeless people do not use Food Banks. Food banks are generally used by peoplw with a low income who spend a disproportionate amount of their money on housing.A bag of flour, a package of dry pasta, or a can of green beans is of no use to someone who doesn't have a stove and a personal source for running water.
Within ten minutes' walk of my home in Cabbagetown, up to 75 free prepared meals per week are available to anyone, at various times and places, between 7 AM and 4 PM, so there's no need for any homeless people to be starving. Some of these meals are better than others, but you have to go where they are, when they are. Someone who stays put for hours at a time wont get anything.
Someone receiving a government assistance cheque could apply to live in a rooming house, where they would have a roof over their head, free meals, and a common room with a television, and likely some free toiletries like soap and tooth paste. They would probably share a room with another person for approximately six months before being given a single unit. The negative aspect is the cost, which is geared to income source. Someone receiving a basic cheque would have to sign it over to the owner of the rooming house, and they would get something like $100 per month pocket money.
Someone could live at a larger shelter like the Salvation Army or The Good Shepherd. Those tenants would be able to keep more of their cheque, but they would also be subject to strict curfews. I think residents of The Good Shepard aren't allowed out of the building after 7:00 PM without a pass for a specific reason, and they aren't allowed to stay in the building between about 9:30 AM and 3 PM. Anyone who lives at the Sally Ann near Sherbourne and Dundas has to be in by 11 PM unless they have staff approval, and anyone who misses curfew twice has to spend a month outside. These rules are too strict for a certain portion of the population.
A government assistance cheque is composed of two fixed amounts, basic needs and shelter allowance. Anyone who receives some form of subsidized housing does not receive the shelter allowance as income; that money goes to the landlord. Someone who is homeless by choice receives both amounts, but it's up to them to obtain their own shelter.
There are a lot of scam charities associated with homelessness, low cost housing, and support for people with mental health and/ or addiction problems. The scam charities usually describe themselves as 'not for profit' organizations, as opposed to 'non profit'. Scam charities typically receive some government grant money, some funding from charitable donations from individuals or corporations, and they often do some fundraising of their own. Their public image is that they are altruistic advocates for the marginalized in society. In practice, most of the money that comes in goes towards staff salaries and administrative expenses, and only a small amount trickles down to their clients, and usually unevenly. If an 'overworked' caseworker is responsible to 50 clients, typically half or more will have no contact with the worker in ant given month, one third will get 15 minutes - one hour of time per month, and two-thirds of the time and effort will be spent assisting the five or six clients who are most needy. It's some of these five or six who are featured on the website, giving appreciative testimonials about how much good the company does.
Homeless people do not use Food Banks. Food banks are generally used by peoplw with a low income who spend a disproportionate amount of their money on housing.A bag of flour, a package of dry pasta, or a can of green beans is of no use to someone who doesn't have a stove and a personal source for running water.
Within ten minutes' walk of my home in Cabbagetown, up to 75 free prepared meals per week are available to anyone, at various times and places, between 7 AM and 4 PM, so there's no need for any homeless people to be starving. Some of these meals are better than others, but you have to go where they are, when they are. Someone who stays put for hours at a time wont get anything.
Someone receiving a government assistance cheque could apply to live in a rooming house, where they would have a roof over their head, free meals, and a common room with a television, and likely some free toiletries like soap and tooth paste. They would probably share a room with another person for approximately six months before being given a single unit. The negative aspect is the cost, which is geared to income source. Someone receiving a basic cheque would have to sign it over to the owner of the rooming house, and they would get something like $100 per month pocket money.
Someone could live at a larger shelter like the Salvation Army or The Good Shepherd. Those tenants would be able to keep more of their cheque, but they would also be subject to strict curfews. I think residents of The Good Shepard aren't allowed out of the building after 7:00 PM without a pass for a specific reason, and they aren't allowed to stay in the building between about 9:30 AM and 3 PM. Anyone who lives at the Sally Ann near Sherbourne and Dundas has to be in by 11 PM unless they have staff approval, and anyone who misses curfew twice has to spend a month outside. These rules are too strict for a certain portion of the population.
A government assistance cheque is composed of two fixed amounts, basic needs and shelter allowance. Anyone who receives some form of subsidized housing does not receive the shelter allowance as income; that money goes to the landlord. Someone who is homeless by choice receives both amounts, but it's up to them to obtain their own shelter.
There are a lot of scam charities associated with homelessness, low cost housing, and support for people with mental health and/ or addiction problems. The scam charities usually describe themselves as 'not for profit' organizations, as opposed to 'non profit'. Scam charities typically receive some government grant money, some funding from charitable donations from individuals or corporations, and they often do some fundraising of their own. Their public image is that they are altruistic advocates for the marginalized in society. In practice, most of the money that comes in goes towards staff salaries and administrative expenses, and only a small amount trickles down to their clients, and usually unevenly. If an 'overworked' caseworker is responsible to 50 clients, typically half or more will have no contact with the worker in ant given month, one third will get 15 minutes - one hour of time per month, and two-thirds of the time and effort will be spent assisting the five or six clients who are most needy. It's some of these five or six who are featured on the website, giving appreciative testimonials about how much good the company does.
Good post. Wife works in Outreach dealing with the homeless/drug addicts. It's a difficult situation but lack of food/cell phones for internet, clothes, tents, sleeping bags, cigarettes, Ensure drinks for post-high are not in short supply.
Again it's a tough situation but who I really feel for are the 60- 70- year olds who have been evicted from their apartments of 20+ years because they can no longer afford the rent. There are only so many beds in senior homeless shelters and if you're there too late, you are literally out in the cold. You've worked your whole life making, say, minimum wage, not addicted to anything, no mental health issues, do all the right things and this is how you end up....
Upside is that, in general, the system does (can do better of course) good job with kids and single mothers for shelter. There IS a priority system and in general single men are at the bottom. Not right but triage is necessary.
Society at large is not designated and/or assigned government resources to be responsible for the homeless population, they are. Yet here we are.
The point is we are importing more people to be homeless from other parts of the world whether willingly or not. That equals a bigger homeless population over all and thinner resources. How they got here and their refugee status is not the point. The point is we are adding to the problem or allowing the problem to grow with people from other countries. It's just a total joke at this point.
However, with the prices of rent, assuming that legal immigrants, international students, temporary workers are not homeless is being less and less true as time goes on I suspect.
So you think someone earning 50k deserves to live in a rooming house situation? You strike me as someone who has never experienced financial difficulty. That must be nice.
ahh just throw tax money at it. that will solve everything 
you could shovel billions into it. free housing and food for all homeless. I hope you like paying more taxes on top of what you already do. the social service field perpetuates helplessness. an employment sector that "helps" people but at a very poor return on investment..
you could shovel billions into it. free housing and food for all homeless. I hope you like paying more taxes on top of what you already do. the social service field perpetuates helplessness. an employment sector that "helps" people but at a very poor return on investment..
Virtually every non-management full time employee who works in the fast food industry and many in food and beverage and hospitality and in general retail make minimum wage which is less than the 40 to 50 k indicated above as sufficient income to share a room. Their prospects of getting ahead financially are close to nil in those industries. This is very much a have/have not society with massive inequalities. It is these people who work every day and manage to not become homeless or drug addicted who deserve much more sympathy than the homeless and drug addicted who for the most part have made every wrong move in life possible. They are the ones who I would much rather help.
Uhhhhhh. He could win the lottery too. Because finding shared accommodations in this city for $1000 is a lottery win and doesn't reflect the norm.
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If you make $40,000 a year living in the region of Ontario, Canada, you will be taxed $10,446. That means that your net pay will be $29,554 per year, or $2,463 per month.
$40,000 a year, let's you take home $2463 a month.
You will not be able to afford a car, of course:
Let's add up expenses, and find out how much rent one can afford in Toronto.
TTC montlhly pass: $156
Cell phone bill: $70
Food (only eating at home): $450
Utilities (Internet/gas/heat/water/electric) - shared with two others: 600/3 = $200
Miscellaneious (clothes/toiletries/ktichenware/heatlh products): $150
Entertainment/savings: $200
Total: $1226
That leaves $1237 a month for rent
This would get you a single room in a shared house. So it's doable.
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If you make $40,000 a year living in the region of Ontario, Canada, you will be taxed $10,446. That means that your net pay will be $29,554 per year, or $2,463 per month.
$40,000 a year, let's you take home $2463 a month.
You will not be able to afford a car, of course:
Let's add up expenses, and find out how much rent one can afford in Toronto.
TTC montlhly pass: $156
Cell phone bill: $70
Food (only eating at home): $450
Utilities (Internet/gas/heat/water/electric) - shared with two others: 600/3 = $200
Miscellaneious (clothes/toiletries/ktichenware/heatlh products): $150
Entertainment/savings: $200
Total: $1226
That leaves $1237 a month for rent
This would get you a single room in a shared house. So it's doable.
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However, living off of minimum of $14.20, gives you a monthly take home pay of $2,000 a month.
This means you would have no savings, very little for entertainment, food would be strictly at home, and everything else would be the bare minimum to survive (utilties/cell/ttc/necessities). Your rent would be under $1,000 and perhaps you would actually have to share a room. Lots of immigrants do this.
Living in Toronto on minimum wage leaves no room for error. Fall behind by getting into debt and getting evicted, and it can all be over.
Forget dental visits, movies, Netflix, new laptop or phone, eating out with friends, traveling, emergency expenses, etc. The idea of buying a home one day? Not even in your dreams. In fact, if you are a minimum wage earner, you are essentially a slave.
This means you would have no savings, very little for entertainment, food would be strictly at home, and everything else would be the bare minimum to survive (utilties/cell/ttc/necessities). Your rent would be under $1,000 and perhaps you would actually have to share a room. Lots of immigrants do this.
Living in Toronto on minimum wage leaves no room for error. Fall behind by getting into debt and getting evicted, and it can all be over.
Forget dental visits, movies, Netflix, new laptop or phone, eating out with friends, traveling, emergency expenses, etc. The idea of buying a home one day? Not even in your dreams. In fact, if you are a minimum wage earner, you are essentially a slave.
