Again, reading, it's a useful skill that you seem to lack. Considering your consistent inability to understand what you read, your opinion of me is pretty much meaningless.
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Russia in ruins
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In fall of 1940 he was involved in making plans for a military exercise of the new western border of the SU
On feb 1st 41 he became chief of staff of the Red Army General Staff and appointed a Deputy People's Commissar for Defense in March. He worked on plans for defense vs Germany et al.
He was pretty active since then on the Eastern [or I guess by his perspective western front] before Stalingrad.
A hallucinating Hitler in his final days and out of desperation thought allies
from the west would make peace and fought Stalin on Germany's side.
Didn't Churchill once said "If Hitler invaded the hell I would fight
alongside the devil"?
from the west would make peace and fought Stalin on Germany's side.
Didn't Churchill once said "If Hitler invaded the hell I would fight
alongside the devil"?
General George Patton actually recommended the west and Germany join to fight Russia.
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Lol Ok, Hoss. Are you sure I'm the one with a comprehension problem?
Stalin: "Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war." That's an exact quote.
You: "LL was vital, but Russia would have held without it, maybe even make some gainz." That's also an exact quote.
So, please, tell me again how you're not saying Stalin was wrong and I don't understand what I read.
Why would Russia call it the Western Front? Because it's on their western edge? So the US, France and the Commonwealth called the front in Germany/France the Eastern or Southern Front because it was east or south of them?
I'm not sure what you've read that makes you feel like an expert on Russia in WWII, but this implies you haven't read enough.
Oh wait, no... I'm sorry. I'm the one with a reading comprehension problem. You probably don't mean Zhukov would call it the Western Front "from his perspective" because it's too the west of him and I'm just a moron who can't see what you meant. My apologies.
Negative. Hitler straight up expected the Soviet Union to be a pushover.
Between 1914 and 1917, the German Heer defeated the Russian Empire so soundly that it's entire military and economy collapsed, resulting in a civil war that unseated the Tsar and resulted in the formation of an entirely new state.
Hitler also considered the Slavic people to be "Asiatic", and therefore "inferior, naive, eager to be subservient, and less intelligent" (quotes added to make it clear this is according to Nazi racial ideology and I'm not claiming to believe such nonsense myself). The evidence of this, in their mind, was how naive Stalin was to make multiple agreements with them even after they had formed an alliance specifically to stand against him (if unfamiliar, see Anti-Comintern Pact) and how he had "purged" all of his best leaders. It's also worth noting that what we know about the planned invasion includes absolute disdain for Soviet manufacturing capability, to the point it was never really considered.
France was seen as a far more powerful adversary in every way, and Germany had conquered it in 47 days. Hitler assumed the Soviet Union would fall as quickly or quicker, and he did have some generals of the German High Command agreeing with him. That's why they didn't have any winter equipment ready. It wasn't that they forgot Russian winters are cold, they literally thought Moscow would fall in a month or less, certainly no more than 2 or 3.
The plan was to defeat the Soviets in weeks and that would convince the British to surrender, effectively ending the war. Then starve the Russians to death and redistribute that land to the German people.
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Good point, and answers the question that is raised by many, how could the Nazi generals be so naive/stupid/unaware
of Russian winters etc. Op Barbarossa started in June, plenty of time to finish the job if blitzkrieg is your thing.
There seems to be an attempt to find equivalency in Russia Vs. Ukraine and Soviet Union Vs. Nazi Germany in WWI. If the Soviets had lost the Nazis would have exterminated all the Jews, Communists, homosexuals Jehovah's and other witnesses. They fought with their backs against that wall and won because they had to - at an incredible cost. This time the Ukrainians are the ones fighting for their very existence. If the Russians stopped today, there would be no threat other than political upheaval and the International Criminal Court...
The original start date was in May a month earlier but was delayed because of fierce resistance by the Greeks in Greece.
Also, let's not forget the Russian rail tracks were a different gauge than the German one so German trains could not use them.
Is that the reason why 'your fight is our fight' according to some
warmongering Republicans?
