In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism
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Oh, no: Israel talked about establishing a Palestinian state on land Jordan has stolen. What a controversy. Sadly in '67 the Arab league was still refusing to make any kind of peace with Israel existing in any form.
And back to your claims that shooting people driving down the road or filling up at a gas station is self defence but Israel shooting back at Palestinian gunmen is a war crime. Sorry but you are making completely separate rules simply because they are Jewish.
Self defence - shooting back at someone who is shooting at you
Terrorism - shooting someone simply because they have an Israeli license plate.
One of these days you should actually read what your rights groups say about it.
But it is the official position of Canada and many Western, rights respecting countries. You just don't like it because it clearly identifies what you are.
Sure, some Jews are against Israeli policy but think Israel has the same right to exist as any other country. Some Jews believe that Israel can only be created by god. Thing is Jews, like every other group have a variety of opinions.
But none of them would agree with you that targeting Jewish owned business or Jewish schools because of Israel is acceptable. That is explicitly
- Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
You used to post endlessly about terrorism and how evil acts of terrorism are.
Now you're here defending terrorism in order to justify an illegal occupation and apartheid rule.
Even after the Israeli military is calling out Israeli terrorism you won't join them and instead are here implying its antisemitic to call out terrorism.
You've sunk very low.
Israeli Military, Police and Shin Bet Chiefs: Settler Attacks Are 'Nationalist Terrorism'
The Israel Defense Forces' Chief of Staff Herzl Halevi, Shin Bet Chief Ronen Bar and Police Commissioner Kobi Shabtai denounced the string of settler attacks on Palestinian villages and said they plan to step up efforts against them
Are you back to claiming that graffiti saying 'Free Palestine' is antisemitic?
Cuz that's an antisemitic statement, where you imply that all Jews are responsible for the illegal Israeli occupation when its clearly not the case.
That would be an antisemitic statement, basketcase.
This video is now making the rounds. I’m sure grandpa will see an Israeli soldier forced to defend himself by shooting a Palestinian.
Basket knows his position on Israel is without merit. It is not much different than Crystal defending Russia because she is Russian. I can understand that many people will support their motherland without limits. However, I do see it as immature and childish.
They are. That's why I have condemned Palestinians terrorists and Jewish terrorists. You are the one who has completely different definitions based solely on ethnicity.
You have repeatedly claimed it's okay to target any Jew in the West bank because a small number of them may be terrorists. You have repeatedly tried to use self defence to describe shooting up cars with women and children and gunning down people filling up at a gas station, just like you have repeatedly claimed Gaza rockets are legitimate self defence.
And then you keep trying to claim that it's a war crime for Israel to shoot back at Palestinian gunmen.
I'll challenge you on this. You will not find any posts of mine defending settler terrorists or defending the current Israeli government. If you actually took the time to read my posts, you'd see my complaints are the attacks on Jewish civilians and those with a racist double standard that claim that Israel should be treated differently than any other country.
And unlike Franky, I support self determination for both Israelis and Palestinians and am willing to criticize people of any perspective that denies that both people should have rights.
p.s. Motherland? Do you need to assume that anyone who support Israel's continued existence must be Jewish? If so, that would be a big surprise to my parents.
Ah, keep on digging that anti-Semitic hole deeper.
- Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
You tick all the boxes, grandpa.
Anti-Palestinian racism is a form of anti-Arab racism that silences, excludes, erases, stereotypes, defames or dehumanizes Palestinians or their narratives. Anti-Palestinian racism takes various forms including:
- denying the Nakba and justifying violence against Palestinians;
- failing to acknowledge Palestinians as an Indigenous people with a collective identity, belonging and rights in relation to occupied and historic Palestine;
- erasing the human rights and equal dignity and worth of Palestinians;
- excluding or pressuring others to exclude Palestinian perspectives, Palestinians and their allies;
- defaming Palestinians and their allies with slander such as being inherently antisemitic, a terrorist threat/sympathizer or opposed to democratic values.
If you are truly against terrorism stand with me and support a call for the ICC to investigate both sides for all allegations of terrorism, war crimes or crimes against humanity as reported by human rights organizations likes Amnesty, Human Rights Watch and B'tselem.
Until you do, its you that is refusing to call out terrorism, not me.
You are holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the state of Israel by claiming its antisemitic to call for the end of an illegal occupation by the state of Israel.
That's antisemitic.
Do you support Israel using snipers on women, children, medics and civilians every Friday for a year during the Great March of Return or not?
Amnesty, HRW and others state Israel was intentionally targeting civilians, which is 'terrorism' by your own definition.
So either call out Israel or admit you are defending acts of terrorism.
On 30 March 2018, Palestinians in Gaza launched the Great March of Return, a series of weekly mass demonstrations along the fence between Gaza and Israel.They were demanding their right to return to their villages and towns in what is now Israel, as well as an end to Israel’s blockade on Gaza. The response was brutal: by the end of 2019, Israeli forces had killed 214 civilians, including 46 children, and injured more than 8,000 others with live ammunition. A total of 156 of those injured had to have limbs amputated. More than 1,200 patients require long-term, complex and expensive therapy and rehabilitation, and tens of thousands more require psycho-social support -none of which are widely available in Gaza.
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians
Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
www.amnesty.org
More racist violence from Israel. Can’t wait for grandpa’s rationalizations.
Didn’t Hannah Arendt call this the banality of evil?
Israel is afraid of the media reporting what’s happening in Jenin. Here is the IDF targeting a media camera.
