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Artificial sugar replacement aspartame to be declared 'possibly carcinogenic to humans'

Phil C. McNasty

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Remember when all the "experts" declared it to be perfectly safe??

 

Twister

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Remember when all the "experts" declared it to be perfectly safe??

They've been saying this for years. But they key word is possibly. They'll be a big fight with the industry. How about Splenda?
 

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And for those who have right-wing phobia, here's a Reuters article

Why did you have to make a lounge thread political?
Gave you time off to reflect.

Politics not in any lounge threads, please.
 

HotDogger

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Splenda is sucralose, not aspartame.
Sucralose was originally developed as a pesticide. The inventors actually tasted it and discovered it was very sweet. Since is "cannot" be metabolized by humans, it was eventually permitted to be used as an artificial sweetener.

I won't touch that stuff unless someone holds a loaded gun to my head!
 
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GameBoy27

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I'll use a teaspoon of this in the one to two coffees I have a week. It's a good alternative. Tastes like sugar and you use it in the same ratio as sugar. Available at Costco.

 

bazokajoe

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Article on yahoo says you would have to drink 12-36 cans of pop everyday to be at risk, maybe.
Nothing to worry about.

For example, an adult weighing 60kg would have to drink between 12 and 36 cans of fizzy drinks – depending on the amount of Aspartame in the beverage – every day to be at risk. Its view has been widely shared by national regulators, including in the United States and Europe.
 

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I am glad one of my consumer discretionary stock holdings is PEP, Pepsi, which is really more a restaurant and food conglomerate.

And not KO and COKE, which are much more soda pop pure plays, and are likely to see a bigger stock price dip on this news.

I used to drink soda a lot more, as a teen ager in the 80's.

Now a Coke is only mixed with rum, and is more a once a week on the weekend sort of thing for me.
And I refuse to mix alcohol in with an aspartame sweetened drink. The result tastes awful to me.
 

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I'll use a teaspoon of this in the one to two coffees I have a week. It's a good alternative. Tastes like sugar and you use it in the same ratio as sugar. Available at Costco.

If you check the ingredients list you will see that Erythritol is listed as the first ingredient which means it makes up for the bulk of the contents.

In a sensible world, the packaging would be "Erythritol with Monk Fruit" and not "Monk Fruit with Erythritol".

You can get 100% pure Monk Fruit sweetener but it is something like $25 for 100g. Erythritol really f*cks up your digestive system, real sugar or Aspartame would be less harmful.
 

HotDogger

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But you take extremely small amounts of it on a daily basis, which is safe.

But I did not know this, thanks for informing. That is actually scary. I will look into stevia drops as I use sucralose drops currently.
Dude. Just use regular cane sure in small amounts or better yet, stop the sweeteners all together. Eventually, you will start appreciating flavors and sensations you never knew existed. For example, orange pekoe tea with a half teaspoon of fresh squeezed lemon is absolutely delicious in the morning. But when I was a sugar addict, my tastebuds never could detect/appreciate these natural flavors.

I don't believe eating a pesticide in small amounts is ever safe. Just like drinking alcohol in small amounts is never safe. Poison is poison. There's no safe amount of poison.
 

HotDogger

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I hear you, but I am a coffee addict. I don't like dairy, so I usually have coffee, black. And I like it sweet. Hence the struggle to find something low calorie, that does not spike my blood sugar etc.,
I feel your pain brother. No easy way through this problem
 
Aspartame has always been an issue, google to find out how it was approved..... the issue is that as the body breaks it down it converts some of it to methanol which is toxic, but as always it depends on the dose as to how much damage a toxin does. Need a lot of aspartame to cause a problem.

Sucralose has recently been found to damage the lining of the intestine as it is metabolised, more sucralose gives more damage, again the dose is the issue.

Stevia is a natural plant that can be used in sweeteners, just have to watch what is used as filler. Don't seem to recall it's affect on blood sugar levels, but that can be googled... =)


I hear you, but I am a coffee addict. I don't like dairy, so I usually have coffee, black. And I like it sweet. Hence the struggle to find something low calorie, that does not spike my blood sugar etc.,
 

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Aspartame has always been an issue, google to find out how it was approved..... the issue is that as the body breaks it down it converts some of it to methanol which is toxic, but as always it depends on the dose as to how much damage a toxin does. Need a lot of aspartame to cause a problem.

Sucralose has recently been found to damage the lining of the intestine as it is metabolised, more sucralose gives more damage, again the dose is the issue.

Stevia is a natural plant that can be used in sweeteners, just have to watch what is used as filler. Don't seem to recall it's affect on blood sugar levels, but that can be googled... =)
 

GameBoy27

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If you check the ingredients list you will see that Erythritol is listed as the first ingredient which means it makes up for the bulk of the contents.

In a sensible world, the packaging would be "Erythritol with Monk Fruit" and not "Monk Fruit with Erythritol".

You can get 100% pure Monk Fruit sweetener but it is something like $25 for 100g. Erythritol really f*cks up your digestive system, real sugar or Aspartame would be less harmful.
I highly doubt 1 or 2 teaspoons per week will really fuck up my digestive system.

"Although symptoms of gastrointestinal distress have been noted with excessive intakes, erythritol is considered to be well-tolerated up to one gram per kilogram of body weight per day, which would be up to 68 grams of erythritol per day for someone weighing 150 pounds."
 

Insidious Von

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It's about fuckin time!

Like I said in another thread, pancreatic cancer was rare before the introduction of artificial sweetners. The soft drink companies have done a ruthless job of suppressing the data.
 
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