Titanic Submersible

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I guess that also begs the question - how do you find out what happened with the sun to investigate and how much has already been “lost” in Oceangate’s records?
They would have to be able to recover the submersible and inspect it to figure out what happened…and getting that submersible back from the ocean floor may not even be possible.
 
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…and getting that submersible back from the ocean floor may not even be possible.
Maybe they can just take photos and that might be enough to figure out what happened. If they can take photos of the Titanic then they should be able to take pics of this thing. Wonder if this thing has a "black box"?
 

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Maybe they can just take photos and that might be enough to figure out what happened. If they can take photos of the Titanic then they should be able to take pics of this thing. Wonder if this thing has a "black box"?
Maybe. I think it depends what went wrong. From what I’ve read, if the submersible’s hull was breached (ie. cracked or leaked) the vessel would implode instantly and there may not be much left of it.

 
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The OceanGate CEO who is trapped on a 22-foot submersible on an ill-fated voyage to see the Titanic wreck once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”

“When I started the business, one of the things you’ll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have, uh, gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and they — you’ll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys,” Rush told Teledyne Marine in a newly resurfaced undated Zoom interview.

“I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational and I’m not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old, uh, you know, who’s a sub pilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational,” he continued.
 

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The OceanGate CEO who is trapped on a 22-foot submersible on an ill-fated voyage to see the Titanic wreck once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”

“When I started the business, one of the things you’ll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have, uh, gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and they — you’ll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys,” Rush told Teledyne Marine in a newly resurfaced undated Zoom interview.

“I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational and I’m not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old, uh, you know, who’s a sub pilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational,” he continued.
I guess a Jim Lovell type would not have met this wacko CEO's criteria.
Jim Lovell - Wikipedia
 

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You guys should give the passengers a break. Who among us wouldn't take the seat if we could? And 250k ain't that much for billionaires. We put up(and down) a garage for a rich asshole who paid many times that to store his vehicles- including one elevator for his cars....and one for himself. I would gladly take a ride into the Mariana Trench or a trip to the space station. Both, extremely dangerous trips, even in Piccard's bathyscaphe. And if you die in the process, we'll, you got to die of something, eventually.
 

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Actually, I would have love to see the Titanic close up. A quarter million seems quite reasonable, actually.....

Still can't afford that, but still reasonable.....
Duh! People simply object because of the ticket price. It's like flying private. One may believe that it's harmful and wasteful, but, given the opportunity, it's the only way to travel.
 
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You guys should give the passengers a break. Who among us wouldn't take the seat if we could? And 250k ain't that much for billionaires. We put up(and down) a garage for a rich asshole who paid many times that to store his vehicles- including one elevator for his cars....and one for himself. I would gladly take a ride into the Mariana Trench or a trip to the space station. Both, extremely dangerous trips, even in Piccard's bathyscaphe. And if you die in the process, we'll, you got to die of something, eventually.
So by your standards the Chilean miners got a free thrill of a life time and the Thai soccer team should have paid for the experience. As previously stated in this thread, I would pay $250000 not to go.
 
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You guys should give the passengers a break. Who among us wouldn't take the seat if we could? And 250k ain't that much for billionaires. We put up(and down) a garage for a rich asshole who paid many times that to store his vehicles- including one elevator for his cars....and one for himself. I would gladly take a ride into the Mariana Trench or a trip to the space station. Both, extremely dangerous trips, even in Piccard's bathyscaphe. And if you die in the process, we'll, you got to die of something, eventually.
This perhaps explains some of the negative comments that you are hearing:


You may not like it or agree with it but there is an increasing hostility in society towards billionaires because they spend their tremendous wealth on narcissistic adrenaline binges such as this.
 
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You may not like it or agree with it but there is an increasing hostility in society towards billionaires because they spend their tremendous wealth on narcissistic adrenaline binges such as this.
I think these adventures advance the cause of science.
 

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I think these adventures advance the cause of science.
Perhaps…and if billionaires are willing to turn themselves into human lab rats and participate in experiments that would never pass an ethics review panel then maybe we’re all better off for it? Somehow, though, I still feel like that money could probably be put to better use elsewhere. Moreover, I believe we as a society would be better served if we could decide how our resources are allocated rather than leaving it in the hands of thrill-seeking billionaires.
 
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You guys should give the passengers a break. Who among us wouldn't take the seat if we could? And 250k ain't that much for billionaires. We put up(and down) a garage for a rich asshole who paid many times that to store his vehicles- including one elevator for his cars....and one for himself. I would gladly take a ride into the Mariana Trench or a trip to the space station. Both, extremely dangerous trips, even in Piccard's bathyscaphe. And if you die in the process, we'll, you got to die of something, eventually.
I would not. I am a scuba diver, and wrecks does not interest me one bit. I positively avoid wreck dives.

And I am drawn to experiences that show an accomplishment, i.e. requires some growth or skills. Being a passenger on a rocket to space or in a submarine going down to 4,000 m are not it.

Showing off wealth is not an attractive trait.
 
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