The Economic Depression has arrived

jalimon

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They are making initiative to improve the flagrant homeless situation. Hats off to them!
 

jcpro

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They are making initiative to improve the flagrant homeless situation. Hats off to them!
Now, visit Kitchener. You know, in Ontario- a nice , quiet town....and see its downtown overrun by homeless junkies.
 

jalimon

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Now, visit Kitchener. You know, in Ontario- a nice , quiet town....and see its downtown overrun by homeless junkies.
And? What do you do with them. Let them destroy or you try to help? It's not like they will disappear by themselves.

And it's everywhere. Yet it's not only junkies that are homeless unfortunately. Low income people used to be able to rent something. They can't anymore. We need to help them so they do no join the junkies... And/or riot stores.
 

jcpro

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And? What do you do with them. Let them destroy or you try to help? It's not like they will disappear by themselves.

And it's everywhere. Yet it's not only junkies that are homeless unfortunately. Low income people used to be able to rent something. They can't anymore. We need to help them so they do no join the junkies... And/or riot stores.
ROTFLMFAO!! It didn't happen overnight. It's been growing for the last quarter century, with the successive "governments " doing exactly nothing about it, except watching it grow.
 

jalimon

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ROTFLMFAO!! It didn't happen overnight. It's been growing for the last quarter century, with the successive "governments " doing exactly nothing about it, except watching it grow.
But now as it's regular folks that are ending up in the street due to housing crisis it's time to do something.
 

John_Jacob

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But now as it's regular folks that are ending up in the street due to housing crisis it's time to do something.
The consequences of the NIMBY and anti-growth mindset that is prevalent in today’s society,
 

richaceg

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And? What do you do with them. Let them destroy or you try to help? It's not like they will disappear by themselves.

And it's everywhere. Yet it's not only junkies that are homeless unfortunately. Low income people used to be able to rent something. They can't anymore. We need to help them so they do no join the junkies... And/or riot stores.
You don't know where he's going with his post do you? What has the government Provincial and Federal level did all this time before it arrived to this point?
 

John_Jacob

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You don't know where he's going with his post do you? What has the government Provincial and Federal level did all this time before it arrived to this point?
For all 3 levels of governmen, Spent millions of $ per homeless person with sweet shit all to show for it.
 

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Now, visit Kitchener. You know, in Ontario- a nice , quiet town....and see its downtown overrun by homeless junkies.
Well, go Queens Park, parade around outside and wear a sandwich board saying "Duggo too soft on criminals!"

Then Duggo will do what you want about those disgusting junkies. Problem solved. :geek: 🤠😧🐸
 

Butler1000

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You don't know where he's going with his post do you? What has the government Provincial and Federal level did all this time before it arrived to this point?
Actually there is nothing that can be done about this

What I'm awaiting is the next step that will happen.
 

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Actually there is nothing that can be done about this

What I'm awaiting is the next step that will happen.
Back to the accelerationism.
The idea that the world needs to fall apart so that a new socialist utopia can rise from its ashes.
 

jcpro

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Well, go Queens Park, parade around outside and wear a sandwich board saying "Duggo too soft on criminals!"

Then Duggo will do what you want about those disgusting junkies. Problem solved. :geek: 🤠😧🐸
This^^^ is why we have a problem. Instead of working the problem, all work political angles.
 
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jalimon

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Back to the accelerationism.
The idea that the world needs to fall apart so that a new socialist utopia can rise from its ashes.
I would say that is what over capitalism does. Look at San Francisco. Many think it is the mecca of liberalism but all these fuckers are so wrong.

San Francisco was the mecca of pure greedy capitalism. Hidden under an umbrella of liberalism to make the city cool. The job market was amazingly great for many years. Housing prices went so high many became millionaires. But on the other hand as the years go buy regulars folks could not afford to live there. And that's when the shit hits the fan.

Most of big European city were able to avoid that in the past 20 years. Buy instating many social measures to help the poor make a decent living while staying in the city.
 
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I would say that is what over capitalism does. Look at San Francisco. Many think it is the mecca of liberalism but all these fuckers are so wrong.

San Francisco was the mecca of pure greedy capitalism. Hidden under an umbrella of liberalism to make the city cool. The job market was amazingly great for many years. Housing prices went so high many became millionaires. But on the other hand as the years go buy regulars folks could not afford to live there. And that's when the shit hits the fan.

Most of big European city were able to avoid that in the past 20 years. Buy instating many social measures to help the poor make a decent living while staying in the city.

that is so wrong

in your strange world lack of opportunity and capitalism are the only things keeping the junkies from employment & home ownership

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Have you had much success hiring junkies and giving them responsibilities?

any guesses what they would do with their first pay cheque?
 

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that is so wrong

in your strange world lack of opportunity and capitalism are the only things keeping the junkies from employment & home ownership

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Have you had much success hiring junkies and giving them responsibilities?

any guesses what they would do with their first pay cheque?
Not all Street people are Junkies or alcoholics. A lot of them are people who just lost hope because the jobs they were taking couldn't even pay the rent or put food on the table for themselves so they just gave up. Having grown up literally in downtown Toronto it's really disturbing to see what's happened to this city in the last 25 years
 

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Some people need a history lesson if they think this is as bad as it's ever been. Armies of homeless people roamed North America during the 1930s when unemployment was 25%. No one has read the Grapes of Wrath? Yes there are problems but on the other side poverty and unemployment are at their lowest levels on record, personal insolvencies are barely up, etc. Many people will gave to make adjustments but this is true of any time. Saw an article today about a senior fed up with high rent so she started a FB group to match roommates and now hundreds of seniors in her town have cheaper rent costs than before COVID and have more friends to socialize with as the price. I'll wager there are lots of cases where related families are each struggling to keep their respective houses afloat but could easily make one bigger house work together with shared living, but are too embarrassed to try. There wete hardly any nuclear families 100 or so years ago when most people lived on the farm in groups. Multi generational living only went away here after WW2 but for many cultures it never did and we are in the process of rediscovering it.
 

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Some people need a history lesson if they think this is as bad as it's ever been. Armies of homeless people roamed North America during the 1930s when unemployment was 25%. No one has read the Grapes of Wrath? Yes there are problems but on the other side poverty and unemployment are at their lowest levels on record, personal insolvencies are barely up, etc. Many people will gave to make adjustments but this is true of any time. Saw an article today about a senior fed up with high rent so she started a FB group to match roommates and now hundreds of seniors in her town have cheaper rent costs than before COVID and have more friends to socialize with as the price. I'll wager there are lots of cases where related families are each struggling to keep their respective houses afloat but could easily make one bigger house work together with shared living, but are too embarrassed to try. There wete hardly any nuclear families 100 or so years ago when most people lived on the farm in groups. Multi generational living only went away here after WW2 but for many cultures it never did and we are in the process of rediscovering it.
As I said. Its the beginning. The commercial real estate market is teetering toward collapse. The private home one isn't far behind if banks fail due to the former. Household debt is huge and interest rates are hurting everyone.

China is in serious trouble. With a huge real estate market bubble, a demographic problem due to the one child policy and "Lying Flat" which has spread to Malaysia, South Korea and exists already in Japan.

Things are coming to a head. Things looked great in 1928 as well.
 
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