Titanic Submersible

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Just a messy boom I’m thinking. And my very basic understanding is that the hull ( for any type of submersible) could only handle X amount, for Y amount of time. Which all things considered isn’t a bad way. For all we know, something happened on the way down. And before any kind of signal could be sent, or emergency action taken. They were liquified.

To put it into perspective the psi at the Titanics depth is around 6,000. The pressure put on bullits depending on a lot 35,000-50,000 psi.
our vehicle tires. 36psi…
 

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Apparently a new possibility that I just read about is a total loss of power:

"CBS News journalist David Pogue, who traveled to the Titanic aboard the Titan last year, said the vehicle uses two communication systems: text messages that go back and forth to a surface ship and safety pings that are emitted every 15 minutes to indicate that the sub is still working.


Both of those systems stopped about an hour and 45 minutes after the Titan submerged.

“There are only two things that could mean. Either they lost all power or the ship developed a hull breach and it imploded instantly. Both of those are devastatingly hopeless,” Pogue told the Canadian CBC network on Tuesday."
 

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I believe the submersible wasn't originally built for tourism.
It was initially used for expedition. Only at a later time were
tourists brought in to finance expenses of the operation of
the sub. It could have been a crew of scientists entirely to
perish in this trip. You may not feel sympathetic for the
billionaires for the misfortune of being adventurous. But
I think the design and construction of the submersible for
deep sea exploration does merit appreciation.
 
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1. They named the sub Titan for voyeuristic trip to a graveyard for 1500 people
2. The first page of the waiver they signed mentioned possibility of death 3 times
3. They are bolted down stiff. Cant even go to the toilet
4. They asked for it
 

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No, and that appears the be the problem. Its a completely unregulated business.
Any yahoo can build one of these submersives and start selling tickets.

Whats kinda funny is that billionaires are usually smart people but they got completely taken in here.
I guess they forgot to read the small print
These billionaires will not be bragging now.
 
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I believe the submersible wasn't originally built for tourism.
It was initially used for expedition. Only at a later time were
tourists brought in to finance expenses of the operation of
the sub. It could have been a crew of scientists entirely to
perish in this trip. You may not feel sympathetic for the
billionaires for the misfortune of being adventurous. But
I think the design and construction of the submersible for
deep sea exploration does merit appreciation.
The need for extreme tourism is the problem. Super rich people want the thrill without putting in any effort.
It takes a lot of effort to get to the top of Mount Everest, but anybody can sit in a rocket or a submarine somebody else is building and piloting.
 

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Shit happens.

Whether we realize it or not, all of us make decisions everyday that contain elements of risk. Most of those decisions the risk is minuscule. Sometimes the risk is large. Like seeing SPs to state the obvious.

me, I work in a high risk environment. The risk for physical harm is high. Everyday. Decisions are made in split seconds, that could be the difference between going home or to the hospital. Does that make me an idiot??? Most of those currently trying to find/recover them. Likewise idiots? People that serve in combat?

There’s also the adrenaline rush when you’re in danger. I’d bet some of my money, these guys were adrenaline junkies and the types who measure risk differently.

That said, do agree some or most of the recovery cost should be put on the estate.
I think there is a difference between risks and just stupidity.

It is risky to skydive. It is stupid to jump out of a plane with a new type of personal flying device maid of popsicle sticks, wood glue and string. That has never been governed, tested or deemed by a non bias party - to be safe.

I’m all for taking risk I’m an escort after all but just properly calculated ones.
 
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The Canadian P8 detected some noise. They may be alive!
You really think so ? Noise can be anything.
All the technology and man hours spent trying to locate MH370 turned up nothing.
The chances of this vessel being found is nil.
 

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You really think so ? Noise can be anything.
All the technology and man hours spent trying to locate MH370 turned up nothing.
The chances of this vessel being found is nil.
They'll find it because they know where it is- give or take 100 Sq miles or so. MH 370, all they know- probably the Indian Ocean. Quite the difference.
 

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Someone had to be the first to fly to the moon. And I quite agree there are different levels of risk. Take just the the risk profiles of SPs/Indies at agencies here and those on LL.

I take or assume risk, everyday at work. The risk I’m exposed to is perhaps one of the most unpredictable, unstable. Human beings…..

the point, I was making or trying to. Is that every single one of us. Make choices that contain a measure of risk. That doesn’t make those taking them “idiots”.

They go in knowing the risk..

My understanding here is that this wasn’t the first trip down for this craft. We know from footage and that journalist….So it’s not entirely untested. The Challenger too exploded…
/shit happens
 

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Someone had to be the first to fly to the moon. And I quite agree there are different levels of risk. Take just the the risk profiles of SPs/Indies at agencies here and those on LL.

I take or assume risk, everyday at work. The risk I’m exposed to is perhaps one of the most unpredictable, unstable. Human beings…..

the point, I was making or trying to. Is that every single one of us. Make choices that contain a measure of risk. That doesn’t make those taking them “idiots”.

They go in knowing the risk..

My understanding here is that this wasn’t the first trip down for this craft. We know from footage and that journalist….So it’s not entirely untested. The Challenger too exploded…
/shit happens
The difference is that the NASA astronauts puts in the work to prepare for the missions.

These people here pays $250k and expect the Canadian Coastguard to find them if something goes wrong.
 

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The difference is that the NASA astronauts puts in the work to prepare for the missions.

These people here pays $250k and expect the Canadian Coastguard to find them if something goes wrong.
Have to guess, you missed the part where I said their estates should cover some/most of the cost??? In large part due to the risky nature??
 
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Noise is of 'banging in nature" , reports say that it is occurring every half hour. You'd think it would in morse code for SOS.
This is very exciting. Although, it's hard to root for some asshole billionaires. This ain't some trapped miners, that's for sure.
 

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The difference is that the NASA astronauts puts in the work to prepare for the missions.

These people here pays $250k and expect the Canadian Coastguard to find them if something goes wrong.
And the working class pay taxes to fund the Coastguard so they can rescue these billionaires who pay dizzy prices for a sight seeing trip.
 
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