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dirtyharry555

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Except.... how does this contradict my point in this thread: - That doctors know a fuck of a lot more than you about health care?

Explain how you know more than doctors when you have a high school diploma and never went to med school.... šŸ˜ŗ šŸ˜¹ šŸŒˆ šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ šŸ˜¼
Buddy, we live in a society where many "experts" say that you can change your gender from one minute to the next. Whatever credibility you think that your doctors have has been lost or compromised in the political circus.
 
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Why? Because I trust doctors?.... That means I don't care about reality?.... How does that work?

I'm not the person in this thread rejecting professional expertise. YOU are.
It's not about you trusting doctors, It's you shielding the process from any type of scrutiny.

Then you fail to realize the doctors are controlled by activist and lobbyist groups. Do you know why some countries in Europe stepped back from "gender-affirming care"? It's because they stopped taking American advise and decided to looked at the evidence themselves. The results didn't justify the process.

So who really is rejecting professional expertise? What makes the doctors you believe in better than the once in Europe?

And so?.... It's a medical competence issue, appropriately dealt with my medical professionals and judges - the very people you despise. Ordinary joes on the internet don't get to decide what's medical negligence or not. That's because you'renot qualified - as in, not smart enough, not educated enough and biased. Unlike judges and doctors. Right?
As we see in many instances in society, when ever a qualified person speaks against the agenda, they are silenced.

European Health Organizations are now saying the results don't match the expectations.

You don't care I know. It's against you agenda.

Nice to know. I guess schizophrenia and bipolar disorder don't exist either. Thanks for letting me know.
Well I'm glad that you can agree Gender Dysphoria is actually a Mental Disorder.

Now when someone is Schizophrenic, do we comply with all their demands?
If a Schizophrenic person says I need to slit peoples throats, do we give them an endless supply of people to kill?

Or a better example is Anorexia. If someone is Anorexia nervosa, do agree with them and just give them liposuction?
Or do we explain through therapy their self-image is not true and their body is fine the way it is?
 

curr3n_c1000

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Buddy, we live in a society where many "experts" say that you can change your gender from one minute to the next. Whatever credibility you think that your doctors have has been lost or compromised in the political circus.
"I don't need to know anything. The Government will know it for me."

Fucking Ridiculous. šŸ¤£
 

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ROTFLMFAO!!!! You can try to deflect all you want. "Doctors " mutilated a mentally afflicted minor before the age of consent. Time to pay the piper. AND you, sir, should condemn the practice, too. If you have any gray matter left.
Your trannies are going to ban you forever with this talk.
 
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It's not about you trusting doctors, It's you shielding the process from any type of scrutiny.
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What "scrutiny" are you talking about?

Medicine like all sciences is constantly under scrutiny; nothing a scientist likes better than proving their peers wrong. Sadly for people pushing religious/political agendas, the conclusions are all about evidence, not interpretations of the Bible, Koran, etc.
 
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Your trannies are going to ban you forever with this talk.
Oh, you're assuming that, like you, trans individuals are for child mutilation and grooming? I can tell that you're wrong. I had this very conversation just last Tuesday evening with a nice transgender lady at a West end hotel. What did she say? Oh, yeah: the obsession with pedophilia is hurting the trans image.
 

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Except.... how does this contradict my point in this thread: - That doctors know a fuck of a lot more than you about health care?

Explain how you know more than doctors when you have a high school diploma and never went to med school.... šŸ˜ŗ šŸ˜¹ šŸŒˆ šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ šŸ˜¼
No doctor or scientist is allowed free speech anymore.

You are delusional if you think that all scientists or doctors agree with your political propaganda.

Perfect example below, from CNN no less.

 

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What "scrutiny" are you talking about?

Medicine like all sciences is constantly under scrutiny; nothing a scientist likes better than proving their peers wrong. Sadly for people pushing religious/political agendas, the conclusions are all about evidence, not interpretations of the Bible, Koran, etc.
IKR?

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curr3n_c1000

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What "scrutiny" are you talking about?

Medicine like all sciences is constantly under scrutiny; nothing a scientist likes better than proving their peers wrong. Sadly for people pushing religious/political agendas, the conclusions are all about evidence, not interpretations of the Bible, Koran, etc.
The thing is they are not using medicine.

Itā€™s more cosmetic than medical.
 

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Girl Sues Hospital For Removing Her Breasts At Age 13

SATURDAY, JUN 17, 2023 - 01:45 PM
Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times


A hospital and doctors in California are facing a new lawsuit for removing the breasts of a 13-year-old girl after she claimed she was a boy.

The defendants carried out ā€œideological and profit-driven medical abuseā€ when they prescribed her puberty blockers and hormones and, later, performed a double mastectomy, Charles LiMandri, one of the lawyers representing the plaintiff, Layla Jane, said in a statement.
Jane, now 18, was influenced by people online when she was just 11 and told her parents that she was a boy, prompting them to ask for guidance from doctors.
While three doctors said Jane was too young for cross-sex hormones, she was eventually referred to several other doctors who prescribed her puberty blockers and hormones. Within six months, they removed her breasts.
The hormones and puberty blockers were given based on a single, 75-minute session with Susanne Watson, a psychologist, according to the suit. Dr. Winnie Tong, a plastic surgeon, concluded after a 30-minute session that Jane could have her breasts removed.
ā€œDefendants did not question, elicit, or attempt to understand the psychological events that led Kayla to the mistaken belief that she was transgender, nor did they evaluate, appreciate, or treat her multi-faceted presentation of co-morbid symptoms,ā€ the suit reads.
ā€œInstead, Defendants assumed that Kayla, a twelve-year-old emotionally troubled girl, knew best what she needed to improve her mental health and figuratively handed her the prescription pad. There is no other area of medicine where doctors will surgically remove a perfectly healthy body part and intentionally induce a diseased state of the pituitary gland misfunction based simply on the young adolescent patientā€™s wishes.ā€
Doreen Samelson, a psychologist not named as a defendant, by contrast, told Jane and her parents that she couldnā€™t receive puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones due to factors such as her age.
Jane, whose given name is Kayla Lovdahl, has since ā€œdetransitioned,ā€ or resumed identifying as a girl.
Sheā€™s currently receiving psychotherapy for mental health issues such as social anxiety disorder. That kind of treatment should have been offered instead of the drastic steps the defendants took, the suit states, noting that, per a number of studies, youth who experience gender dysphoria often ultimately become comfortable with their birth sex.
Other papers have found that people who underwent chemical or surgical procedures to ā€œtransitionā€ experience mental health issues and higher suicide rates. And some countries have restricted the usage of puberty blockers to certain settings due to a dearth of clinical research on using them on youth wanting to transition.
The lack of therapy and outlining of possible side effects from the surgery means the doctors didnā€™t provide Jane with informed consent, according to the suit. Instead, the defendants claimed that the dysphoria wouldnā€™t resolve unless she underwent the procedure.
At one point, one allegedly told her parents, ā€œWould you rather have a live son or a dead daughter?ā€


Layla Jane after her operation. (Courtesy of Dhillon Law Group)



ā€œNobodyā€”none of my doctorsā€”tried anything to make me comfortable in my body, or meaningfully pushed back or asked questions; they only affirmed,ā€ Jane told The Epoch Times.

Jane said she didnā€™t feel better after her surgery. She suffered nerve damage and other issues. She says sheā€™s happier since she detransitioned.

Read more here...


PS.
The parents aren't going to have any grandchildren. Their lines end with them.
 
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Dirty, you're pretty much having a conversation with yourself and you're not responding to my posts. You know why that is?..... Because you can't directly answer my posts without looking like a fool.

I've told you several times that it's not about "pronouns". It's about respecting the medical profession and its task caring for us. You can't accept and respect the medical profession embracing trans positive care. That's why you continually deflect to your silly Trump cult ranting about "pronouns" and "woke".

That 's what you'd like to say this thread is about. But it's actually about doctors and listening and respecting doctors.

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