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Higher Number Of COVID Vax Received, Higher RISK Of COVID: Newly Peer Reviewed Study Implies

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In other words it ain't about if you get it, but how bad you do.
Sorry but plenty of otherwise healthy unvaccinated people suffered hard from covid (and continue to) while people who got the vaccine had far fewer negative impacts. And many of the vulnerable people who died wouldn't have if they were vaccinated.
 

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Sorry but plenty of otherwise healthy unvaccinated people suffered hard from covid (and continue to) while people who got the vaccine had far fewer negative impacts. And many of the vulnerable people who died wouldn't have if they were vaccinated.
You really just look at my name, assume one thing when I said something else, don't take a moment to think about what I said, do you?

Your statement above IS WHAT I SAID, YOU NIT!
 
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Yes. But I'm critical of everything I hear or read and confirm the sources actually say what people claim they do.

Anytime humans hear something we don't want to believe, we set out looking for evidence that it's wrong. It's an excellent practice. The problem is the vast majority people don't do the same when they hear something they do want to believe.

The first thing I ask for is the source. If someone is claiming someone said something, I want to listen to or read what was actually said. Ideally with a couple of minutes on either side of the statement in question. Amazingly, many people either refuse to provide the source claiming "You wouldn't accept it anyway," which seems really disingenuous when I've never once rejected evidence because of the source (unless the source is anonymous or unsourced, but no one should accept that nonsense), or once they do they admit they never read it if it doesn't say what they thought it did.

I also try to act in good faith. So for example, I'll Google to see if the source is easy enough to find before I bug people. Because this isn't a formal debate and I'm not trying to "win" so I don't see any reason that the entire burden should fall in them. So when people refuse to provide a source, or admit they never dug into the sources to confirm it, I get annoyed. I'm open minded. Crazy thing: I've been wrong in my life. Like.... A few times! And you know what? I didn't die. I don't mind that I'm wrong sometimes, and I can admit when I am. So I get annoyed when people refuse to even try and show me the evidence of their claims.

So hopefully I don't get annoyed here, but do you have a source that Pfizer tried to seal records for 75 years? Because I fucking hate Pfizer. I think they're a horrendous corporation that preys on needy people. And despite the fact that their story has been around for a while, I've never found a source to corroborate it. I have found that the FDA tried to seal the records for 75 years and went to court. But I haven't seen any source that Pfizer did. Do you have one?
It was the government, in this link to a twitter post, then in other posts it's Pfizer. Either way, it should set off alarm bells for everyone, if it didn't that's really scary that people think "this is fine"
 

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You really just look at my name, assume one thing when I said something else, don't take a moment to think about what I said, do you?

Your statement above IS WHAT I SAID, YOU NIT!
He is a cookie cutter, boilerplate ignoramus most of the time.
 

Valcazar

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Any idea why Pfizer wanted to seal documents for, I think it was 75 years in regards to the jabs?
Thankfully they weren't allowed to do it.
Cool story bro.
Care to actually post evidence that this happened and it isn't something else that you've misunderstood?
 
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Valcazar

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Twitter as a source again? How humorous.
You can't expect them to go and read things themselves instead of just repeating what they've been told to believe.
That's asking way to much of them.
 

Valcazar

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So hopefully I don't get annoyed here, but do you have a source that Pfizer tried to seal records for 75 years? Because I fucking hate Pfizer. I think they're a horrendous corporation that preys on needy people. And despite the fact that their story has been around for a while, I've never found a source to corroborate it. I have found that the FDA tried to seal the records for 75 years and went to court. But I haven't seen any source that Pfizer did. Do you have one?
Pfizer is fucking evil, but I don't exepct a source to be produced.
And to be fair, I think you're wrong about this as well "I have found that the FDA tried to seal the records for 75 years and went to court." and I would like to see your source for that.

My understanding is that the FDA said that to produce everything the Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency FOIA request asked for at a rate of 500 pages per month would take until 2075 or so. There was never an argument that the records should be sealed. I am happy to be corrected if there was an actual attempt by the FDA to seal the records though, so if you can show me that, I would like to see it.
 

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Cool story bro.
Care to actually post evidence that this happened and it isn't something else that you've misunderstood?
It was the FDA that was looking to seal the safety data.
More scary that a government agency seemed to be covering for Pfizer.

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You really just look at my name, assume one thing when I said something else, don't take a moment to think about what I said, do you?

Your statement above IS WHAT I SAID, YOU NIT!
Sorry. You're predisposed to conspiracy theories and I'm predisposed to criticizing you for it.
 
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The great Dr. Peter McCullough as just a rock during this tyranny..
That's like saying people in jail are being discriminated against.

Sorry. Discrimination is based on characteristics based in the Charter. What you're talking about is consequences for choices. Remember the days when the right idolized Ayn Rand and her philosophy of individual responsibility?
 
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Valcazar

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It was the FDA that was looking to seal the safety data.
More scary that a government agency seemed to be covering for Pfizer.

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Your "proof" that the FDA tried to seal the documents for 75 years is the case where the FDA offered to begin releasing data immediately? 😆

You just didn't pay attention to what was happening at all did you?
 

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Your "proof" that the FDA tried to seal the documents for 75 years is the case where the FDA offered to begin releasing data immediately? 😆

You just didn't pay attention to what was happening at all did you?
I should have corrected it and said under the guise of "we can't redact all that personal info it's going to take some time" nonsense. They can do all kinds of wild shit with CGI, computing, alorithms, chatGPT, AI, etc, but can't create a program or get A.I. to redact names, keywords? 😂😂
But hey, Pfizer is an angelic company, they received cover from governments, zero liability and plenty of complications going on now with hundreds if not thousands of questions regarding their jabs.
You do you, you have strong buyer's remorse and zero balls to admit you were suckered, too much ego. New COVID wave coming, better get in line for the next jab and the one after that and the one after that and......
Hope you don't go to a casino, because once you lose, it looks like you're the type that will keep chasing that lost money.
 

Valcazar

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I should have corrected it and said under the guise of "we can't redact all that personal info it's going to take some time" nonsense. They can do all kinds of wild shit with CGI, computing, alorithms, chatGPT, AI, etc, but can't create a program or get A.I. to redact names, keywords? 😂😂
You're pretty gullible, I see. ("I should have corrected it" - like you fucking knew the details until you got caught out.)

No, you can't fucking trust an automated pass on redaction.
That's a way to guarantee errors.

Can they go faster with better tools over time? Sure.
But "they're lying about this in order to hide shit for 75 years" is just paranoia.

But hey, Pfizer is an angelic company,
Pfizer is a fucking evil company and everyone knows it.
Doesn't change the reality.
 

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You're pretty gullible, I see. ("I should have corrected it" - like you fucking knew the details until you got caught out.)

No, you can't fucking trust an automated pass on redaction.
That's a way to guarantee errors.

Can they go faster with better tools over time? Sure.
But "they're lying about this in order to hide shit for 75 years" is just paranoia.



Pfizer is a fucking evil company and everyone knows it.
Doesn't change the reality.
And now they have zero liability with the shots you were told would save your life. lol
That "fucking evil company" whose product you have in your body. The same company whose rep told a European Commission government official they didn't test if it did or didn't prevent transmission, but their CEO, Fauci, politicians, celebrities and your TV told you it did. LOL

And you're trying to get all "got ya" with me.
Buddy, you got lied to and took it. lol
 
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Valcazar

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And now they have zero liability with the shots you were told would save your life. lol
That "fucking evil company" whose product you have in your body. The same company whose rep told a European Commission government official they didn't test if it did or didn't prevent transmission, but their CEO, Fauci, politicians, celebrities and your TV told you it did. LOL

And you're trying to get all "got ya" with me.
Buddy, you got lied to and took it. lol
You have a LOT of emotional investment in this narrative, Jubee.
It's probably not healthy for you.
 
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It would explain why quite a few of my vaccinated friends caught covid multiple times. I simply thought: bullshit "vaccine ". I never suspected that the shots would make people more susceptible to catching it. Interesting.

Tom Fitton is the scumbag who has been fingered as the guy who advised Dum-dum Trump-Trump to retain the classified documents and who told his Dumness Trumpy that he could declassify government documents by fingering his balls and saying "Ooga-bwooga" 3 times.

The guy is a total grifter.

:geek:
 
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