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Turley: America's Blackout On Biden Corruption Is Truly 'Pulitzer-Level Stuff'

dirtydaveiii

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Whitewater, Vince foster, birtherism, benghazi, Durham....add it to the pile of the GOP underwhelming but breathlessly pushed investigations.
You forgot uranium 1 where Hillary Clinton was somehow supposed to stop Canada from letting a Russian company buy part if a mining company. Fox twisted that into Hillary gave the Russians nukes
 
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Butler1000

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What position in the government has Hunter held? What influence has he had on governmental policy?

Even if people are giving Hunter money based on his name, they'd be pretty stupid to think that a drugged out black sheep is somehow going to be an effective means of gaining influence.
Wow. Let me explain. Dad has influence, payments go to screw up son. Screw up son is taken care of.

Hence NEPOTISM. Is that really so difficult?
 
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silentkisser

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When he was younger he was found with drugs and went to court. The proceedings were sealed and he went to rehab. This was during the height of the war on drugs. And his Father was advocating jail FOR ALL DRUG USERS. So sorry but no excuses. He directly used privilege to get his son off but his political position to make sure the black kids went to jail. IT WAS HIS CRIME BILL. He led it.

And yes any Trump kids are Nepo Kids. So now I will play the Uno Reverse. Does this make on principal Hunter and Joe Biden as Bad as Trump?

Corruption is corruption.
There is a massive difference between Trump and Biden. There is not a shred of tangible proof that Joe Biden did anything wrong or is corrupt. Not on Hunter's laptop, not in documentation or bank records. Trump and his family, on the other hand, enriched himself at any and every opportunity he could. How'd Kushner become a billion dollar hedge fund manager??? How come Trump charged the Secret Service the most expensive price for staying at his resorts when he visited them? Or the multiple times prominent GOP members visited his hotels/resorts. One site says Trump had more than 3,000 conflicts of interest during his four year term. That's astonishing. Then we can look at his unethical/illegal fund raising. Or the fact that he tried to over throw the will of the American people because he lost the election...

Now, as for Hunter, as I've already said, many wealth white people got diverted to rehab or other less severe sentences than POC during this ear (and literally every era in American history). Did Joe have anything to do with this, like did he reach out to the prosecutors to get this? Probably not. But you'd want to believe that he did (and maybe he did, I have no clue, but if it was my child in that situation, I'd do anything to help them). And we can talk until we're blue in the face about how shitty that crime bill turned out to be, especially for POC.

Now, can I saw that Biden is as clean as the driven snow? No, for all we know he could be worse than Trump, just much smarter about covering it up. But the main point is, that besides a lot of talk by the right, there is no evidence that Joe has done anything wrong. On many levels, its just the GOP and the right-wing media wishing for it to happen...and it hasn't yet.
 

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What does any of that have to do with Joe or anyone in government. Other than trying to make ho. Look bad and score some cheap political points what is the story here?
If you can't dig it up for real, make it up for Fux News...
 

Valcazar

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Now, can I saw that Biden is as clean as the driven snow? No, for all we know he could be worse than Trump, just much smarter about covering it up. But the main point is, that besides a lot of talk by the right, there is no evidence that Joe has done anything wrong. On many levels, its just the GOP and the right-wing media wishing for it to happen...and it hasn't yet.
The way the GOP is handling the Hunter stuff should really piss Butler off, because it is making any attempt to address a lot of the legal corruption harder.
The GOP is only gonna use this to score cynical political points because they absolutely do not want to move forward in any kind of way that would have consequences.

Think about it:
- If they propose anything that would retroactively affect Biden as VP, it will snare Trump and his family - so they won't do that.
- If they propose anything forward looking to block future corruption, it will possibly snare Trump and his family if they win 2024 - so they won't do that.

The result is that it will be viewed by people as even more of a "everyone's corrupt and does it" thing to let slide and there will be no public pressure to try to do any reform.

If they actually pushed for real solutions that weren't just "let's target our political enemies" they might get somewhere, but by actively making it about nothing but targeting their political enemies they are just going to perpetuate and entrench things.
 

Butler1000

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The way the GOP is handling the Hunter stuff should really piss Butler off, because it is making any attempt to address a lot of the legal corruption harder.
The GOP is only gonna use this to score cynical political points because they absolutely do not want to move forward in any kind of way that would have consequences.

Think about it:
- If they propose anything that would retroactively affect Biden as VP, it will snare Trump and his family - so they won't do that.
- If they propose anything forward looking to block future corruption, it will possibly snare Trump and his family if they win 2024 - so they won't do that.

The result is that it will be viewed by people as even more of a "everyone's corrupt and does it" thing to let slide and there will be no public pressure to try to do any reform.

If they actually pushed for real solutions that weren't just "let's target our political enemies" they might get somewhere, but by actively making it about nothing but targeting their political enemies they are just going to perpetuate and entrench things.
Im happy to See Trump go down. Them ALL go down.

Do much for your bullshit again.
 

Butler1000

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There is a massive difference between Trump and Biden. There is not a shred of tangible proof that Joe Biden did anything wrong or is corrupt. Not on Hunter's laptop, not in documentation or bank records. Trump and his family, on the other hand, enriched himself at any and every opportunity he could. How'd Kushner become a billion dollar hedge fund manager??? How come Trump charged the Secret Service the most expensive price for staying at his resorts when he visited them? Or the multiple times prominent GOP members visited his hotels/resorts. One site says Trump had more than 3,000 conflicts of interest during his four year term. That's astonishing. Then we can look at his unethical/illegal fund raising. Or the fact that he tried to over throw the will of the American people because he lost the election...

Now, as for Hunter, as I've already said, many wealth white people got diverted to rehab or other less severe sentences than POC during this ear (and literally every era in American history). Did Joe have anything to do with this, like did he reach out to the prosecutors to get this? Probably not. But you'd want to believe that he did (and maybe he did, I have no clue, but if it was my child in that situation, I'd do anything to help them). And we can talk until we're blue in the face about how shitty that crime bill turned out to be, especially for POC.

Now, can I saw that Biden is as clean as the driven snow? No, for all we know he could be worse than Trump, just much smarter about covering it up. But the main point is, that besides a lot of talk by the right, there is no evidence that Joe has done anything wrong. On many levels, its just the GOP and the right-wing media wishing for it to happen...and it hasn't yet.
You really can't be that naive to think a Sitting US senator wouldn't save his son from jail....
 

jcpro

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Im happy to See Trump go down. Them ALL go down.

Do much for your bullshit again.
I don't really give a shit who wins the next election. Elections come and go and usually don't mean that much over long-term. But, the media covering up for the political class really does scare me.
 

Valcazar

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Im happy to See Trump go down. Them ALL go down.

Do much for your bullshit again.
What the fuck does this have to do with what I said?

If you actually want to see movement on the issue, If you want them ALL to go down, you should be fucking pissed at the way the GOP is handling this.
As should jcpro, according to what he said in post 30.
 

Butler1000

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What the fuck does this have to do with what I said?

If you actually want to see movement on the issue, If you want them ALL to go down, you should be fucking pissed at the way the GOP is handling this.
As should jcpro, according to what he said in post 30.
You ate assuming its only the GOP blocking things. They both are. Look at how Pelosi blocks insider trafing reform alone.
 

basketcase

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Wow. Let me explain. Dad has influence, payments go to screw up son. Screw up son is taken care of.

Hence NEPOTISM. Is that really so difficult?
Wow that' just as stupid as your claims Hillary assassinated her rivals.

No one in government has ever listened to Hunter on governmental policy no matter how much you want to play Tucker Carlson word games. Any one who gave a cent to Hunter was just too dumb to realize he's a drugged out grifter with no impact on policy.
 

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...Or the multiple times prominent GOP members visited his hotels/resorts....
I'd be more concerned about the many times foreign officials who repeatedly booked rooms there (whether they actually stayed there is another question).
 

basketcase

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I don't really give a shit who wins the next election. Elections come and go and usually don't mean that much over long-term. But, the media covering up for the political class really does scare me.
Do you think this is anything new? Rich people get better treatment than the poor.

But clearly your concern is you've bought into this fake news that somehow Hunter Biden has been acting as a government agent.
 

Valcazar

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You ate assuming its only the GOP blocking things. They both are. Look at how Pelosi blocks insider trafing reform alone.
I am not assuming anything.
I am talking about the way they are presenting this and how it is going to fuck with any actual push at reform.
The obstacles to that are bipartisan, and the push to overcome it has to be as well (with nonpartisan pressure as the driving force).

I know you hate Democrats and it gets you all spun around, but I would like to think you actually give a shit about the corruption you are railing about and aren't just being a partisan hack.
This should infuriate you because it is a massive wasted opportunity.
 

Butler1000

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Wow that' just as stupid as your claims Hillary assassinated her rivals.

No one in government has ever listened to Hunter on governmental policy no matter how much you want to play Tucker Carlson word games. Any one who gave a cent to Hunter was just too dumb to realize he's a drugged out grifter with no impact on policy.
Dude, again. Hunter is the dumb ass, his dad wields power. Lobbyist pays son, Dad does the job. Lobbyist gives son business deal, dad arranges for government contract, lobbyist gives son board position, dad arranges for military aid.

What you think Eastern European Oligarchs and Chinese Govt run businesses worked with Hunter because he was competent?

You are just not that dumb, stop defending corruption just because they are Democrats.
 
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Butler1000

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I am not assuming anything.
I am talking about the way they are presenting this and how it is going to fuck with any actual push at reform.
The obstacles to that are bipartisan, and the push to overcome it has to be as well (with nonpartisan pressure as the driving force).

I know you hate Democrats and it gets you all spun around, but I would like to think you actually give a shit about the corruption you are railing about and aren't just being a partisan hack.
This should infuriate you because it is a massive wasted opportunity.
Im past any emotion on American politics. Im just awaiting the Depression 2.0 now and the downfall of this generation's Robber Barons. It won't change via gradual reform, its too late for that.
 

jcpro

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Do you think this is anything new? Rich people get better treatment than the poor.

But clearly your concern is you've bought into this fake news that somehow Hunter Biden has been acting as a government agent.
So, since you're in the know. What was Hunter selling for all those millions?
 
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