First time grandpa? Your memory problems are becoming an issue. It’s a simple question. No need for equivocation.
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In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism
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No one normalizes antisemitism more than the anti Palestinian bigots such as yourself . Collectively, you’ve diluted it to the point that it’s virtually meaningless.
Canada Man admits he can't defend a single one of his accusations.
Because without pretending you want the two state solution that just leaves you admitting to supporting apartheid.
I don't push antisemitic tropes, that's just you and canadaman.
You're still just defending apartheid.
Are you actually saying that Israel, the settlements and the settler’s are exempt from international law? Can you think of more racist privilege than saying they are exempt?
Violating international law is criminal activity.
Talk about double standards with a western elite attitude.
Frankfooter demands that Israel unilaterally impose a deal? WTF are you talking about? He’s got nothing to do with what Israel does.
Israel has already unilaterally imposed a one state deal on Palestinians that they hate….one structured on Apartheid.
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Primitive savagery borne of tribalism. Canadaman will be silent and Grandpa will roll out his usual “bad apple” response.
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You just criticized him for not posting in support of a two state peace despite the fact you hate the idea and continually demand Israel unilaterally enforce one.
And the fucked up thing is you probably believe it.
You defended Ilhan Omar's post about 'the Benjamin's' even after she apologized for the anti-semitic trope. You support the whack-job who claimed "The Jewish lobby subjugated America". You've regularly defended vandalism or protests targeting synagogues and Jewish owned businesses over hatred of Israel.
And the most fucked up thing is you've condemned all those exact same claims when the speaker is from the right.
Then there is you continual defence and denial of terrorism from Palestinians, either claiming that Jews in the West bank deserve it or ignoring it if it is in Israel proper.
Five wounded in terror car-ramming near busy Jerusalem market
One victim in his 80s fighting for his life; Palestinian man who plowed car into pedestrians at corner of Agrippas and Ki'ach streets shot dead
www.timesofisrael.com
BTW.
According to international law and every rights group you pretend to support say:
Running over a bunch of pedestrians is not self defence.
Gunning down some people on a patio is not self defence.
Killing a woman and her two girls for driving down a road is not self defence.
Indiscriminate rockets fired from Gaza and Lebanon are not self defence.
You mean like when you cheer the killing of Jews for simply being in the West Bank?
Yes, criticism is deserved because canadaman has no plan for peace.
The two state solution is dead but at least you can claim you support peace by backing it.
Canadaman doesn't support peace, he supports the status quo apartheid, one state solution.
Discussing the success of AIPAC and other public Jewish lobbying groups is not a trope. AIPAC spends a lot of money on politicians, its all known and on the record. Its not a trope.
From your articleThen there is you continual defence and denial of terrorism from Palestinians, either claiming that Jews in the West bank deserve it or ignoring it if it is in Israel proper.
What excuse will you use this time?Five wounded in terror car-ramming near busy Jerusalem market
One victim in his 80s fighting for his life; Palestinian man who plowed car into pedestrians at corner of Agrippas and Ki'ach streets shot dead
The Palestinian driver was identified as 39-year-old Hatem Najma, a father of five from the Beit Safafa neighborhood, which straddles the Green Line that marked Israel’s pre-1967 boundaries. He had no known prior security offenses, but was known to have mental heath issues.
Of course you will call it terrorism and not consider the possibility that mental health had anything do with the incident.
I fully support you taking those allegations to the ICC or UN to investigate.
If they find war crimes or crimes against humanity then charges should be laid.
Just as I support taking all the other allegations on both sides from Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN and investigating those.
A reminder, its only you that is against investigations, not me.
You won't support investigations because you know the occupation is illegal, its ruled through apartheid and Israel commits far more acts of what you call 'terrorism' than Palestinians.
You are as scared as rump of the rule of law.
Because you know you are backing apartheid and terrorism.
Only jc cheers for people being killed in these threads.
A reminder:
Since 1 January, Israeli occupation forces and civilians have killed some 100 Palestinians, including 18 children.
More than 2,600 Palestinians have been injured, including more than 300 with live ammunition.
18 children killed by Israel so far this year.
You’ve given up all pretense of directly addressing anything, grandpa. All you and the rest of the anti Palestinian bigots have left is to smear anyone who recognizes the right of Palestinians to freedom and the protection of international law. What are you going to do when the smears don’t work anymore?They are already starting to faiI.
Neither do you. You keep opposing the idea of talks and simply demand Israel unilatterally implement some kind of peace without caring about what Palestinians want.
Love how you push Jewish conspiracy theories to justify your use of anti-semitic tropes. And your girl explicitly said Jews have subjugated America. Added to your repeated claims that any Jew is fair game for protests/vandalism about Israel and you clearly deserve your anti-semite label, without even getting into the IHRC descriptors Canada adopted.
Just like when the alt-right blame mental health instead of white supremacist propaganda that fed it. You're in good company.
It's pathetic the lengths you go to to deny that some Palestinians choose to commit attacks on Jewish civilians explicitly because of their religion. Instead you take what your rights groups call illegitimate and pretend it is really self defence.
Running over a bunch of pedestrians is not self defence.
Gunning down some people on a patio is not self defence.
Killing a woman and her two girls for driving down a road is not self defence.
Indiscriminate rockets fired from Gaza and Lebanon are not self defence.
What utter bullshit. If you don't want to be labelled as a purveyor of a racist double standard, you should either hold your criticisms of both until the ICC rules or condemn all sides based on reports. Instead you use the ICC as a crutch to avoid criticizing anything Palestinian while condemning Israel for even the most idiotic accusation on twitter.
If you cared about rule of law, there are also plenty of things on the Palestinian side you should condemn (like the Hamas coup which derailed Palestinian democracy) but you see them as too far beneath you to care.
And to really exemplify the difference between you and I, I proudly condemn attacks by settlers on Palestinian civilians just as I condemn Palestinian attacks on Israeli (or Italian) civilians. Both are terrorism. On the other hand, you say stone throwing or harassment by settlers is terrorism while claiming Palestinian attacks on civilians are 'self defence'.
To top it off, you justify attacks on Jews in the West Bank because some small number of them are combatants while also claiming that Palestinian combatants shouldn't be arrested and Israeli forces shouldn't be allowed to shoot back at Palestinian gunmen.
You need a mirror friend. That and a bunch of sessions with a counsellor to deal with your obsessive hatred.
I'll wait until you graduate high school and learn how to actually hold a discussion. Obviously your addiction to tiktok has reduced your attention span to nil.
Your diversions go back to me asking you why you demand a One State peace when the vast majority of Palestinians reject the idea.
p.s. Celebrating the killing of a civilian.
80% of Palestinians support BDS, the peace plan I back.
You refuse to even call it a peace plan because of demographics.
Which is why you support apartheid, you know if Israel were a democracy it would likely have a Palestinian elected government.
No, I've said AIPAC has been a very effective lobbying group, its Netanyahu who bragged that he was controlling the US. Not me.
You are the one that won't support investigations and both sides being held to the law.
Not me.
You are the one with the racist double standard, the one who claims they are in the right but is deathly afraid of democracy and the rule of law.
You support apartheid.
Again:
I fully support you taking those allegations to the ICC or UN to investigate.
If they find war crimes or crimes against humanity then charges should be laid.
Just as I support taking all the other allegations on both sides from Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN and investigating those.
A reminder, its only you that is against investigations, not me.
You won't support investigations because you know the occupation is illegal, its ruled through apartheid and Israel commits far more acts of what you call 'terrorism' than Palestinians.
You are as scared as rump of the rule of law.
Because you know you are backing apartheid and terrorism.
I argue against racism, you argue for apartheid.
I argue for sanctions to end apartheid, you argue for more violence.
I argue for equality, you argue for settler colonialism.
You need the mirror.
One state already exists, grandpa. Wake up…nap time is over. Israel has already unilaterally imposed a one state deal on Palestinians that they hate….one structured on Apartheid.
It's not a plan for peace and it's pretty stupid when you claim Palestinians want an egalitarian One state peace because most of them hate it.
And yes, you haver repeatedly pushed antisemitism. You keep backing the idea that Jews have subjugated America and Jewish money has corrupted USA policy. That means you think of Jews in the US simply as an agent of Israel rather than simply US citizens who want their government to make decisions they like. You have no issue with Jews lobbying for Palestinian rights, no issue with Jews lobbying in support of BLM, no issue with Jews advocating for saner gun laws, and no issue with Jews lobbying for health care reform but when they advocate supporting cooperation with israel, you pretend it's some kind of conspiracy.
You have held to these claims supporting people's statements even after the OP admitted to the tropes in their statements (like Ilhan Omar).
You have consistently claimed that it's okay to target Jewish institutions or Jewish owned businesses over issues with Israel. I have continually challenged you if you think it okay to vandalize mosques about women's rights or target Muslim owned shop over repressive Muslim led countries. Thankfully you're smart enough not to answer because you know that there's no way to justify your immoral ethnic hatred of Jews on this issue.
And no, you are not against racism; you are against Israel. Hamas and many Palestinian factions are virulently racist and base their whole existence on the desire to remove the Jewish presence as their predecessors have been doing for more than 100 years. You are not against racism in middle eastern countries. You actually don't criticize anything about middle eastern countries unless you think you can blame it on Israel.
And your absolute refusal to criticize Palestinians until there's a ICC ruling it pathetically transparent. You extremely careful use of language shows you know exactly what you are but you still have this idiotic cognitive dissonance that has convinced you that your hatreds and racism are somehow a good thing.
And you continual reverence for rights groups is amusing since you reject their criticisms of Palestinians. They say that being a Jew in the West Bank does not make you a valid target and indiscriminate rockets from Gaza are completely indefensible while you say both of them are legitimate self defense.
Every so often I see hints that you start realizing how inconsistent and immoral your views are but then you just run away into your emotionally laden bullshit as if nothing has happened.
You're just proof of the western elitist racism that many alleged left-leaning people hold.
Nice try. I asked you what you think about the fact that Palestinians don't want the One State peace you want them forced into. Do you need a dictionary to help you sound out the words?
