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I support Hamas and Israel being held to the law based on investigations on reports by Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN.
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If that was the case, you wouldn't be constantly defending the things Hamas does that gets condemned by Amnesty, HRW, B'Tselem, and the UN such as the rockets fired from Gaza and Lebanon.
 

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Your racist bullshit and attempts to justify terrorism is really disgusting. Your obsessive hatred is getting to the level that got previous posters groggy and flubadub banned for their racist double standard.

And yes, it is obvious why you're more upset about settlers yelling at a shepherd than you are about a couple girls and their mothers being gunned down, a tourist mowed down while walking around Tel Aviv, or Hamas trying to start a war with Lebanon.

And instead you post asinine conspiracy theories. Instead of blaming the guy who ran down the Italian tourists, you post debunked twitter bullshit about him being shot.

And finally, you go back and try to compare Palestinians killed while attacking Israelis to Israelis killed while simply driving down the road or taking a walk.
1) You support Israeli terrorism - you have repeatedly defended acts that fit the definition of terrorism and are presently being investigated by the ICC. I support full investigations on both sides. You do not.
2) Israel has killed 93 Palestinians so far this year and killed yet another child today. I am more upset with an apartheid occupation that is killing more and more of the native population because the apartheid occupation is killing way more people. Both sides should stop the violence but the instigators are those who are occupying Palestine and still stealing land to colonize for 'settlers'. You repeatedly defend killing the native population to make place for colonization.
3) The Italian tourist was shot, not killed by a car ramming. The only people shooting were the IDF. Maybe you can figure out who is likely the killer.....
4) Perhaps these 'random Jews' you love to discuss should not live in a foreign country under military occupation where the local population is starting to support a violent resistance if they are worried about violence. Or perhaps they, like you, should support ending the occupation or apartheid instead of trying to steal Palestinian land by force then whining when the locals get upset and fight back.

Its horrid that civilians are being killed on both sides but what is more horrid is a 53 year old apartheid, illegal, occupation that is still trying to colonize Palestine.

So far in 2023, IOF attacks killed 93 Palestinians, including 47 civilians; 15 of them were children, a woman, and the rest were members of the Palestinian armed groups, including 2 children, 6 killed by settlers, and one died in Israeli prisons. Meanwhile, 414 Palestinians, including 56 children, 2 women and 10 journalists, were injured.

This post highlights your racist position:
 

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Ah, the racist idiot who said that Jews control the US and just claimed that Israelis can't defend themselves from Palestinian attackers. More proof of how ridiculous the Human Rights Abusers Council is.
When you can't debate the facts go with 'she is an antisemite'.
Every day, every post.
 

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Ah, a small fringe of Israelis say that and you freak out. The government of Gaza and a good part of the PA say that and you agree with them.
That small minority is the government, including the minister of the interior who just got a green light to build his own militia even before this march.

I don't agree with anyone who says that, not when you say it and not when the Israeli government, through Ben-Gvir says it.
Not when they say this:

And then do this:

This is Ben-Gvir's choice to lead the national guard
 
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If that was the case, you wouldn't be constantly defending the things Hamas does that gets condemned by Amnesty, HRW, B'Tselem, and the UN such as the rockets fired from Gaza and Lebanon.
I fully support Hamas and Israel both being investigated by the UN/ICC over all allegations levelled by Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN.
Its you that refuses to support the law being applied to both sides, its you that knows Israel commits far more terrorism and war crimes and its you that is afraid of the rule of law and democracy.

You are afraid of Amnesty, not me.

 
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That small minority is the government, including the minister of the interior who just got a green light to build his own militia even before this march.

I don't agree with anyone who says that, not when you say it and not when the Israeli government, through Ben-Gvir says it.
Not when they say this:

And then do this:

This is Ben-Gvir's choice to lead the national guard
There is a hidden war going on by Israel against Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. I’m not saying it’s like a war….I’m saying it is a war. It’s a hidden and undeclared war being conducted by Israel against Palestinians in the occupied territories.

The sheer number of daily settler paramilitary attacks, the number of IDF attacks, the coordination between the IDF and settler paramilitaries constitute a war against Palestinians. This combined with the deliberate violations of the Geneva Convention where hundreds of thousands of Israelis are illegally transferred to the occupied territories.

We need to stop dealing with all of these events as separate and unique individual instances. They are deliberate, calculated and coordinated actions in a war by Israel against Palestinians.
 
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There is a hidden war going on by Israel against Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. I’m not saying it’s like a war….I’m saying it is a war. It’s a hidden and undeclared war being conducted by Israel against Palestinians in the occupied territories.

The sheer number of daily settler paramilitary attacks, the number of IDF attacks, the coordination between the IDF and settler paramilitaries constitute a war against Palestinians. This combined with the deliberate violations of the Geneva Convention where hundreds of thousands of Israelis are illegally transferred to the occupied territories.

We need to stop dealing with all of these events as separate and unique individual instances. They are deliberate, calculated and coordinated actions in a war by Israel against Palestinians.
Its not hidden, its just not reported in the MSM.
 
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basketcase

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1) You support Israeli terrorism -...
Ah, amazingly pathetic attempt to distract yourself from the fact that you are openly saying that Jews in the West bank are military targets. Do you even read what you post?

But sure, instead of blaming the gunmen targeting cars with Israeli plates or running down pedestrians, it's the fault of the Jews for daring to exist. I wonder how you manage to combine posts where you claim to support equal rights to the ones demanding a Jew Free region.
 

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When you can't debate the facts go with 'she is an antisemite'.
Every day, every post.
The fact is she posted on facebook " “America and Europe, one of them subjugated by the Jewish lobby, and the other by the sense of guilt about the Holocaust, remain on the sidelines ..."

But of course you are okay with blatant antisemitism if someone claims they hate Jews because of Israel.
 

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That small minority is...
5 seats out of 120. Sadly the PR system gives undue influence to fringe parties.

Meanwhile last time the Palestinians made an attempt at democracy, 74 seats went to Hamas who routinely promotes a Palestine free of Jews, 45 seats went to Fatah who still refers to all of the British Mandate a Palestinian land. That's almost all of the Palestinian government who routinely say things just like the fringe radical Israelis.

Just another case of your asinine double standard racist bullshit.
 

basketcase

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I fully support Hamas and Israel both being investigated by the UN/ICC ...
You keep saying that. In the mean time, you keep saying you won't criticize Hamas until the ICC rules. And with the racist double standard bullshit, you have no problem condemning Israel based simply on random tweets.
 

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3) The Italian tourist was shot, not killed by a car ramming. The only people shooting were the IDF. Maybe you can figure out who is likely the killer.....
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You guys show how completely gullible you are to anything that fits your hateful agenda.


I'm waiting for you to criticize the car rammer, the Hamas member who shot up a patio, or the people who have regularly been shooting at Israeli plated cars. I'm sure I'll be waiting a while.
 

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There is a hidden war going on by Israel against Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. ...
Settler attacks are terrorism.
Israeli police trying to arrest Palestinian attackers is as you pointed out their duty as the occupying state.

And yes, Palestinians attacking people they assume to be Jews is also terrorism that has been going on since at least 1919.
 

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Ah, amazingly pathetic attempt to distract yourself from the fact that you are openly saying that Jews in the West bank are military targets. Do you even read what you post?

But sure, instead of blaming the gunmen targeting cars with Israeli plates or running down pedestrians, it's the fault of the Jews for daring to exist. I wonder how you manage to combine posts where you claim to support equal rights to the ones demanding a Jew Free region.
If they are acting as civilians they aren't targets, but there are so many colonizing settlers acting as militants as noted by the UN and B'tselem, that Palestinians can't tell them apart any more.
For instance, take this massive 'march' of illegal settlers marching to steal and colonize another part of Palestine, with the IDF backing them and 20 MP's along for the march. Hundreds of Palestinians were injured but you'd just call these 'random Jews' or 'civilians' even as they march with the army to take over Palestinian land by force.

 

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The fact is she posted on facebook " “America and Europe, one of them subjugated by the Jewish lobby, and the other by the sense of guilt about the Holocaust, remain on the sidelines ..."

But of course you are okay with blatant antisemitism if someone claims they hate Jews because of Israel.
Sigh.
Of course you think its true when Netanyahu says it and antisemitic for anyone else to point out the power of AIPAC and the Jewish lobby in the US.
 

Frankfooter

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Settler attacks are terrorism.
Israeli police trying to arrest Palestinian attackers is as you pointed out their duty as the occupying state.

And yes, Palestinians attacking people they assume to be Jews is also terrorism that has been going on since at least 1919.
Settler attacks are terrorism.
Israeli police acting as death squads and assassinating Palestinians is a war crime.
Palestinians attacking settlers they believe to be militant terrorists is not terrorism.

The challenge for you is to show how you can tell the 'random Jews' from the 'random Jewish terrorists'.
 

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Sigh.
Of course you think its true when Netanyahu says it and antisemitic for anyone else to point out the power of AIPAC and the Jewish lobby in the US.
franky posting from an anti-semitic and holocaust denying youtuber who still believe in the khazar myth about jews.
 
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