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Kreal, we continue your education into the mind of a madman. Sit back, click play, and let part 5 sink in while you learn how Putin was responsible for many deaths in Syria. Enjoy!

Yeah I am not watching this typical western docu-drama "interviews" whose sole objective is to sell a narrative and entertain people. Not inform.
 

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Yeah I am not watching this typical western docu-drama "interviews" whose sole objective is to sell a narrative and entertain people. Not inform.
I guess hearing it from your hero's mouth is fake?? I get it, it's you put your hands over your ears and sing LALALALALALALALA unless it's the hindu networks feeding you it's bullshit and nonsense.
 
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I guess hearing it from your hero's mouth is fake?? I get it, it's you put your hands over your ears and sing LALALALALALALALA unless it's the hindu networks feeding you it's bullshit and nonsense.
Yeah edited interviews interspersed with dramatic monologues to conveniently sell a narrative is very "authentic" indeed. Stop jerking off to Megyn and see through the bullshit.
 
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1. What nationalism are you talking about and what does that have anything to do with a HT update about Ukraine?
2. How is your response even remotely related to my response where I asked why you were insinuating HT had anything to do with Modi?
3. Quote me. Prove that I supported nationalism of any kind.

The amount of foolishness and idiocy in your responses is just absolutely mind blowing.
You're really claiming Modi isn't a nationalist or that you are unaware of his mandate and the HT bias?
While you're also claiming to be better informed than the rest of us?

Your fascination with Putin and Russia reads as nationalism.
 

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You're really claiming Modi isn't a nationalist or that you are unaware of his mandate and the HT bias?
While you're also claiming to be better informed than the rest of us?

Your fascination with Putin and Russia reads as nationalism.
You are more fascinated with Putin and Russia. That makes you the nationalist. Hence why you support proxy wars and American imperialism.

Modi's nationalism is irrelevant to the discussion or to HT as he is Indian and India isn't involved in this war. And HT is an independent news organization that has been around for 100 years publishing authentic news rather than the MSM you rely on for your "news".
 
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You are more fascinated with Putin and Russia. That makes you the nationalist. Hence why you support proxy wars and American imperialism.

Modi's nationalism is irrelevant to the discussion or to HT as he is Indian and India isn't involved in this war. And HT is an independent news organization that has been around for 100 years publishing authentic news rather than the MSM you rely on for your "news".
Wait haven’t we established that HT is on a mission to suck Putin’s dick?
 

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Wait haven’t we established that HT is on a mission to suck Putin’s dick?
No. What we have established is that western MSM along with a few morons on here, are on a mission to suck Zelensky's dick.
 

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You are more fascinated with Putin and Russia. That makes you the nationalist. Hence why you support proxy wars and American imperialism.

Modi's nationalism is irrelevant to the discussion or to HT as he is Indian and India isn't involved in this war. And HT is an independent news organization that has been around for 100 years publishing authentic news rather than the MSM you rely on for your "news".
It is very entertaining, in a Cliff Clavin kind of way, how you loudly declare all contrary evidence to be 'irrelevant'.

Lavrov declares Russia is empire building - irrelevant
Russia invaded in 2014 and expanded their empire - irrelevant
Russia invades with the goal of expanding their empire by taking all of Ukraine - irrelevant
HT youtube channel noted as it pushes Russian propaganda - irrelevant
Your libertarianism is the same as extreme right wing views - irrelevant
Putin, rump and Modi's nationalism sounds exactly like yours - irrelevant
 

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It is very entertaining, in a Cliff Clavin kind of way, how you loudly declare all contrary evidence to be 'irrelevant'.

Lavrov declares Russia is empire building - irrelevant
Russia invaded in 2014 and expanded their empire - irrelevant
Russia invades with the goal of expanding their empire by taking all of Ukraine - irrelevant
HT youtube channel noted as it pushes Russian propaganda - irrelevant
Your libertarianism is the same as extreme right wing views - irrelevant
Putin, rump and Modi's nationalism sounds exactly like yours - irrelevant
Yup all of them are irrelevant. Because none of them are true.

But you on the other hand deny everything that is true about your arguments:

- You support American imperialism and empire building
- You support American proxy wars
- You support NATO expansion and provocation of Russia
- You support militarily threatening other nations such as China
- You support propaganda from mainstream media and random twitter accounts and blogs
- You support oppression of people if it suits your agenda like Zelensky imprisoning his own people who oppose him
- Your liberalism is the same as extreme right wing neo con ideology
- Cheney, Bush, John Bolton Putin and Modis nationalism sound exactly like yours.
 
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Yup all of them are irrelevant. Because none of them are true.

But you on the other hand deny everything that is true about your arguments:

- You support American imperialism and empire building
- You support American proxy wars
- You support NATO expansion and provocation of Russia
- You support militarily threatening other nations such as China
- You support propaganda from mainstream media and random twitter accounts and blogs
- You support oppression of people if it suits your agenda like Zelensky imprisoning his own people who oppose him
- Your liberalism is the same as extreme right wing neo con ideology
- Cheney, Bush, John Bolton Putin and Modis nationalism sound exactly like yours.
Gotta love it when you try to argue that Ukraine is a the repressive regime and only the freedom loving Putin regime can save them from the evil NATO empire.
That really does put all your hatred of oppressive regimes and military empires into context, doesn't it?

The US has a shit ton of issues and is likely a declining empire like Russia, but arguing that Russia is less oppressive than Ukraine/NATO/US?
Nice

You're arguing that only Putin can stabilize the world one Ukraine at a time now.

What is the common denominator here? The United States. They are ALWAYS the ones who warmonger, destabilize and create conflicts in all parts of the world.
 

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The US has a shit ton of issues and is likely a declining empire like Russia, but arguing that Russia is less oppressive than Ukraine/NATO/US?
If the US has shit tons of issues then why did you say you support an American empire and a proxy war and that you are happy as long as Russia is destroyed. You said you are happy as long as democracy and freedom are meted out at gun point to any nation whether they want it or not.
 

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If the US has shit tons of issues then why did you say you support an American empire and a proxy war and that you are happy as long as Russia is destroyed. You said you are happy as long as democracy and freedom are meted out at gun point to any nation whether they want it or not.
If Russia is destroyed it is Putin's own doing. He is single-handedly destroying his country.
 

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If Russia is destroyed it is Putin's own doing. He is single-handedly destroying his country.
Russia has always been a fucked up country with fucked up politics. There is nothing to destroy. It will endure and continue to be what it is.

Ukraine on the other hand is decimated.
 

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If the US has shit tons of issues then why did you say you support an American empire and a proxy war and that you are happy as long as Russia is destroyed. You said you are happy as long as democracy and freedom are meted out at gun point to any nation whether they want it or not.
Straw man, kreal.

I have repeatedly stated I'm against US empire building and wars of aggression the same way I'm against Putin and China's similar moves.
Its a straightforward and clear position that you intentionally try to mischaracterize in a dishonest manner because you lost the argument.

You support the Russian proxy war on NATO because you've stated you hate the US.

That's why I support international actions and not individual countries invading anyone because their feelings were hurt.
 

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Is he threatening nuclear war?

 

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Straw man, kreal.

I have repeatedly stated I'm against US empire building and wars of aggression the same way I'm against Putin and China's similar moves.
Its a straightforward and clear position that you intentionally try to mischaracterize in a dishonest manner because you lost the argument.

You support the Russian proxy war on NATO because you've stated you hate the US.

That's why I support international actions and not individual countries invading anyone because their feelings were hurt.
You have repeatedly criticized Russian and Chinese empires that dont exist while failing to supporting moves of the US, which means you support American empire building. You also support the proxy war by US/NATO because you hate Russia and also support imperialistic moves such as NATO expansion.

So there is no straw man here. It is your stated position and you really have no argument here.
 
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