Its offical : Transphobia is here to stay!

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mandrill

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The fact these hacks think a 3 year old is capable of this decision making says it all. But thanks for confirming for people like basketcase that indeed children are being subjected to this.
Where do "3 year olds" and puberty blockers appear in the same sentence, Butler?
 

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Does not mean that the 3 year olds were subjected to the puberty blocking or hormones. Most in the study were probably in the 12 year old bracket. So when they reach the age of 16 to 17 they were more likely to be the ones subjected to these medication. However, none of them underwent the surgery. Thanks for agreeing on that fact!!
The LGBTQ community has been been a persecuted minority for a long time.
Now right wingers are picking on a tiny minority (trans youth) of a tiny minority (trans) of a tiny minority (LGTBQ) to target the entire group.
Its a dog whistle to anger the base and get the pitchforks out.

They could be talking about real problems, gun violence, inflation, income disparity or any of a large number of other issues but that won't make the base march on the streets.
Even tranny loving jc is willing to pull out the pitchforks on this one.

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It isn't a tiny minority. Amongst my gay friends they say thats the majority view. And filling their heads with notions that they are trans and not gay is part of the problem.
Who is "filling their heads with notions" Butler?
 

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Seems to me you are having trouble still. If you go back to read it its all there.
You are REALLY desperate to dodge the question and not commit to a position here.
Why is that?

I'm asking because "no diagnosis or puberty blockers before 10 years old" and "no diagnosis or puberty blockers before 19 years old" are VERY different things.
I am not sure why you are trying hard to maintain ambiguity and confusion about your position on the matter, but it is weird.
You are usually quite opinionated so why the cultivated ambiguity?
 

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Other research says otherwise. Some one earlier in the thread pointed to up to 90% realize they are just plain ol gay.

So in my humble opinion better to wait, diagnose via recognized testing(which actually takes years) before cutting off genitalia and changing body chemistry. Because there is no reversal and its surgical sterilization of people.

Quite simply the study only covers those who had it, and not the ones who realized they weren't with age, maturity and proper councilling. And those are the ones I'm discussing.
First off, read the literature and don't just repeat what you've been told.
(Or at least read people who have read the literature.)

Secondly - I thought you were AGAINST diagnosis.
Now you are in favor of it after "recognized testing (which takes years)"?

So when can they start this years long process? 10 or 19?
 
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Does not mean that the 3 year olds were subjected to the puberty blocking or hormones. Most in the study were probably in the 12 year old bracket. So when they reach the age of 16 to 17 they were more likely to be the ones subjected to these medication. However, none of them underwent the surgery. Thanks for agreeing on that fact!!
May as will link to the studies (there were two in sort of discussion with each other) since they are downloadable.


 

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Oh, yeah. And shooting 9 year old children should be illegal, too. Even when done by "drag".
Is there someone who has argued that shooting 9-year old children should not be illegal?
 

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Is there someone who has argued that shooting 9-year old children should not be illegal?
I'm not sure anymore. It seems like "drag" wants special rules. We better spell them out.
 

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So no one?
It's just some paranoid fantasy of yours?
Which fantasy is that? That we should treat "drag" as victims right after a mass murder by one of their own? Or the fantasy being pushed by Wong-Tam that demands we curtail our basic rights and practice compelled speech?
 

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