Global warming hits Los Angeles

[Phil C. McNasty]

And the UK is currently having a very cold Spring right now. Its highly unusual for the month of March to be this cold

UK weather: Warnings of heavy snow, strong winds and blizzards as cold snap grips country

Under an amber weather warning which comes into force at 3pm on Thursday, there is likely to be "significant disruption" to transport, power lines and mobile phone network coverage. There are also yellow alerts in place for large parts of the UK.

news.sky.com

 

[jcpro]

And the UK is currently having a very cold Spring right now. Its highly unusual for the month of March to be this cold

UK weather: Warnings of heavy snow, strong winds and blizzards as cold snap grips country

Under an amber weather warning which comes into force at 3pm on Thursday, there is likely to be "significant disruption" to transport, power lines and mobile phone network coverage. There are also yellow alerts in place for large parts of the UK.

news.sky.com

That's climate change, obviously. We, old people, used to call it the late spring or unusually cold March.

 

[jalimon]

You mean California, where this year they had a very snowy and cold winter??
Thats your example of global warming??

Again you need to learn the difference between climate change and global warming. Until you do you can still make jokes but they are quite irrelevant.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Again you need to learn the difference between climate change and global warming

You just did the exact same thing: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/global-warming-hits-los-angeles.810222/post-7847990

But say that to people in California...

 

[JohnLarue]

Again you need to learn the difference between climate change and global warming. Until you do you can still make jokes but they are quite irrelevant.

climate change is just a rebranding of the propaganda.
the rebranding was implemented when the 'global warming scary scenarios did not materialize

our climate is constantly changing, always has, always will

the only difference is now the loonies think it is an excuse to control other peoples behavior and an excuse to tax other people

 

[DinkleMouse]

climate change is just a rebranding of the propaganda.

Lol And you post even worse nonsense then before.

How can climate change be a rebranding of global warming when climate change came first? The first paper on climate change was published in 1957 (Tellus, Volume 9, "Carbon Dioxide Exchange Between Atmosphere and Ocean and the Question of an Increase of Atmospheric CO2 during the Past Decades", Revelle and Suess), the first on global warming in 1975 (Science Journal, August 8, 1975, “Climatic Change: Are We on the Brink of a Pronounced Global Warming?”, Wallace Smith Broecker). Heck, the second paper, the first on Global Warning, says right in the title that it's a subset.

Global warming still exists, as do climate change. Nothing was rebranded, one is a subset of the other. They also couldn't be more clear. Climate change is the change in climate (macroscale based on 30-year averages) and global warming is the increase in average global temperatures (as observed when looking only at the average global temperatures portion of the climate).

You basically just said the equivalent of claiming mathematics is a rebranding of geometry. For a guy that claims to be a math and science genius, I'm not sure how you mess that up.

 

[oil&gas]

the only difference is now the loonies think it is an excuse to control other peoples behavior and an excuse to tax other people

I think climate change propaganda is more of a tool to influence
other people's political orientation than to control their behavior.
It is fine to own and drive a collection of SUVs with no abandon but
it is a sin to doubt or deny climate change. Today some people in politics,
business and education might have to exercise caution to opt not to declare
where they stand in climate change. And you know taking which side of
the issue is safer.

 

[jalimon]

climate change is just a rebranding of the propaganda.
the rebranding was implemented when the 'global warming scary scenarios did not materialize

our climate is constantly changing, always has, always will

the only difference is now the loonies think it is an excuse to control other peoples behavior and an excuse to tax other people

Have you been to a caribbean beach in the last 7 years? If you want to see the impact of the human on the planet there you go.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Have you been to a caribbean beach in the last 7 years? If you want to see the impact of the human on the planet there you go.

Please post examples

 

[jalimon]

Please post examples

Read up on the impact of the sargassum seaweeds and how and where they originate from.

 

[jalimon]

Many here should follow Peter Neff on Tiktok who will explain to you, directly from the antarctic, a few valuable info.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Read up on the impact of the sargassum seaweeds and how and where they originate from

So your example of catastrophic global warming is a bunch of seaweed that washed ashore in the Carribean??!!

 

[jalimon]

So your example of catastrophic global warming is a bunch of seaweed that washed ashore in the Carribean??!!

Sorry to say but you are a bit idiotic

The impact of the human deforestation, the utilization of fertilizer in Brazil, combined with the warming of the ocean current affected the sargassum seaweeds located in the Atlantic. These weeds were actually natural filters of the ocean on a many kilometer area. But that impact got them to detach. Since 2017 it's a fucking catastrophe for the economy of the Caribbean and even up to Florida.

If you do not see the relation of both the human factor related to climate change here with this elementary example you never will understand. Better stick to banging girl I guess

 

[oil&gas]

I actually agree that impact of human activities on Earth's eco-system
has been catastrophic. I just hope the issue of climate change won't distract
us from doing the right thing; that is for individuals to reduce their carbon
footprint.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Since 2017 it's a fucking catastrophe for the economy of the Caribbean and even up to Florida

They're gonna turn it onto fertilizer: https://theconversation.com/stinky-...urn-it-into-green-power-and-fertiliser-183807
Problem solved


FYI I googled sargassum seaweeds and they've been around the Carribean and Florida for centuries:

Sargassum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sargassum is a genus of brown (class Phaeophyceae) macroalgae (seaweed) in the order Fucales. Numerous species are distributed throughout the temperate and tropical oceans of the world, where they generally inhabit shallow water and coral reefs.

The Florida Keys and mainland South Florida are well known for the high levels of Sargassum covering their shores. Sargassum or gulfweed was observed by Columbus

 

[jalimon]

They're gonna turn it onto fertilizer: https://theconversation.com/stinky-...urn-it-into-green-power-and-fertiliser-183807
Problem solved


FYI I googled sargassum seaweeds and they've been around the Carribean and Florida for centuries:

Sargassum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tell that to the fisherman in Guadeloupe, Martinique or the travel agent... Not solved at all for them...

 

[JohnLarue]

Lol And you post even worse nonsense then before.

How can climate change be a rebranding of global warming when climate change came first? The first paper on climate change was published in 1957 (Tellus, Volume 9, "Carbon Dioxide Exchange Between Atmosphere and Ocean and the Question of an Increase of Atmospheric CO2 during the Past Decades", Revelle and Suess), the first on global warming in 1975 (Science Journal, August 8, 1975, “Climatic Change: Are We on the Brink of a Pronounced Global Warming?”, Wallace Smith Broecker). Heck, the second paper, the first on Global Warning, says right in the title that it's a subset.

Global warming still exists, as do climate change. Nothing was rebranded, one is a subset of the other. They also couldn't be more clear. Climate change is the change in climate (macroscale based on 30-year averages) and global warming is the increase in average global temperatures (as observed when looking only at the average global temperatures portion of the climate).

think about the messaging to the public
global cooling, then global warming, then climate change

please do not pretend there was no alarmism about global cooling in the the 1970s
ask anyone honest person with grey hair

You basically just said the equivalent of claiming mathematics is a rebranding of geometry. For a guy that claims to be a math and science genius, I'm not sure how you mess that up.

do not misrepresent me
you are not bright enough to understand basic scientific principles, so you you go not get to misrepresent what I state

 

[JohnLarue]

Have you been to a caribbean beach in the last 7 years? If you want to see the impact of the human on the planet there you go.

3 weeks ago
nice soft sandy beaches , pretty much like the nice soft sandy beaches from a few years ago and a decades ago
no seaweed issue was even mentioned.

you are extrapolating some story you heard and think it is somehow scientific evidence


the biggest difference, flying is a major pain in the ass, the seats are a lot narrower, & less leg room
& everything is far more expensive

 

[Frankfooter]

think about the messaging to the public
global cooling, then global warming, then climate change

please do not pretend there was no alarmism about global cooling in the the 1970s
ask anyone with grey hair

There was no alarmism about global cooling in the 70's.
That's nonsense.

You can probably find a faked magazine article, some discredited papers and a few newspaper articles but otherwise it really wasn't a thing.

 

[jalimon]

3 weeks ago
nice soft sandy beaches , pretty much like the nice soft sandy beaches from a few years ago and a decades ago
no seaweed issue was even mentioned.

you are extrapolating some story you heard and think it is somehow scientific evidence


the biggest difference, flying is a major pain in the ass, the seats are a lot narrower, & less leg room
& everything is far more expensive

Dude I have been to the coast of Mexico probably 30 times. The seaweed situation is a fucking nightmare.

Seaweed is spoiling Caribbean beaches. Can science and shovels solve the problem?

A macroalgae called sargassum is spoiling coastlines from Cancún to Tulum. Here’s how researchers and resorts are combating the noxious bloom.

www.nationalgeographic.com

It's not year around but it's fucking bad.