Red Pill Frauds

[xix]

I didn't want this part to be in the above post comment I made.

But if women lib is in full force why can't women pay their own in the first 3 dates?
I think this is where men are getting fed up with, it's like a scam or fraud.
At the same time men should be straight out and say to the women before the date or meetup " you are paying your own here" if she says NO, -

Here are the the options he can do...
1. if you are in a coffee shop / restaurant the men should buy their own and continue the conversation, not buy anything for her
2. or BE POLITE and walk out

Sigma rules.

EDITED part: at 4:56pm
If you are looking for marriage I say wait 3 months before sex. IF casual relationship , FWB, Situationship or what ever - start negotiating by the fourth date what you want for the year. IF you want sex the first night go for it. But you can't ask for LTR after sex on the first night. The first night could have been a one night stand. The reason I say THIS is because most MEN can't read women and most WOMEN are not clear about their intentions. Avoid the headache.

Don't use people for free meal !!!!!!!!
Karma is a bitch. I have seen it.

 

[Jenesis]

I didn't want this part to be in the above post comment I made.

But if women lib is in full force why can't women pay their own in the first 3 dates?
I think this is where men are getting fed up with, it's like a scam or fraud.
At the same time men should be straight out and say to the women before the date or meetup " you are paying your own here" if she says NO, -

Here are the the options he can do...
1. if you are in a coffee shop / restaurant the men should buy their own and continue the conversation, not buy anything for her
2. or BE POLITE and walk out

Sigma rules.

I agree that first three dates - go Dutch.

I also agree that first three dates - no sex.

 

[Fun For All]

I agree that first three dates - go Dutch.

I also agree that first three dates - no sex.

Holy fuck grandma...that fourth date better be a doozy...

 

[Jenesis]

Holy fuck grandma...that fourth date better be a doozy...

LMAO - I’m just going based off of what @xix said. 3 dates.

In my world - if I ever dated again - it would be longer than 3 dates. I mean if I am serious about building a relationship with someone for them, for who they are and them equally for who I am - I don’t want money or sex getting in the way. I have no problem paying my way. 3 dates, 10 dates - doesn’t matter. Can the guy go without sex for that long?

This is probably where escorting has skewed my perception. If you just want sex from me - pay me for it. But if you want me for ME - sex is off the table for a long while, but then I’m not bleeding your bank account dry either.

The other thing for me is I would give up escorting. I don’t need it for the money - I own a business so I have the privilege of walking away. However if you want to be the beneficiary of that privilege - you need to earn it. I don’t know many men who would give up an extra lucrative income and sex for a woman. It is a big ask and one that wouldn’t even need to be asked if it was the right guy. So if I am willing to go that far for a relationship, you need to be bringing just as much to the table.

 

[Fun For All]

LMAO - I’m just going based off of what @xix said. 3 dates.

In my world - if I ever dated again - it would be longer than 3 dates. I mean if I am serious about building a relationship with someone for them, for who they are and them equally for who I am - I don’t want money or sex getting in the way. I have no problem paying my way. 3 dates, 10 dates - doesn’t matter. Can the guy go without sex for that long?

This is probably where escorting has skewed my perception. If you just want sex from me - pay me for it. But if you want me for ME - sex is off the table for a long while, but then I’m not bleeding your bank account dry either.

The other thing for me is I would give up escorting. I don’t need it for the money - I own a business so I have the privilege of walking away. However if you want to be the beneficiary of that privilege - you need to earn it. I don’t know many men who would give up an extra lucrative income and sex for a woman. It is a big ask and one that wouldn’t even need to be asked if it was the right guy. So if I am willing to go that far for a relationship, you need to be bringing just as much to the table.

You know, I've met women where they've wanted sex, and they didn't want money or a relationship out of it...

 

[Jenesis]

You know, I've met women where they've wanted sex, and they didn't want money or a relationship out of it...

Wonderful for them. Wonderful for me. We each get what we want. Thank you for validating my point even further

 

[Tashki]

Wonderful for them. Wonderful for me. We each get what we want. Thank you for validating my point even further

I think he’s trying to point out that he wouldn’t waste his time on a woman he’s dating that would withhold sex for that long. Any other woman wouldn’t withhold sex for a man she likes for that long also.

 

[Fun For All]

Wonderful for them. Wonderful for me. We each get what we want. Thank you for validating my point even further

No problem...so does this count as our first date?

 

[Fun For All]

I think he’s trying to point out that he wouldn’t waste his time on a woman he’s dating that would withhold sex for that long. Any other woman wouldn’t withhold sex for a man she likes for that long also.

That's a good point...if the women really liked the guy, why wouldn't she want to do some romping on date 1 or 2...

 

[Tashki]

We each get what we want.

Also are you actually getting what you want? Think about the percentage of men who will put up with you withholding sex up until the 10th date. if your objective is to be in a committed relationship, you’re doing it backwards.

I don’t know your dating history but I do agree that escorting definitely skewed your perception. As a client myself, my perception is skewed also that’s why I had to cut back from seeing escorts by a lot. I love the pornstar look from escorts but I have to come to terms that not every woman I meet in my personal life is not going to have a boob job or a bbl. I had to compromise.

 

[superstar_88]

For women who want relationships they don't want to come across as a ho.
For men who want a relationship they don't want a woman who is a ho. A fuck buddy that's a whole different matter.
Hence why women even if they want to fuck you immediately will pretend they are not a ho and make you wait.
Unless of course they want to do the walk of shame.

 

[Pleasure Hound]

For women who want relationships they don't want to come across as a ho.
For men who want a relationship they don't want a woman who is a ho. A fuck buddy that's a whole different matter.
Hence why women even if they want to fuck you immediately will pretend they are not a ho and make you wait.
Unless of course they want to do the walk of shame.

Sometimes the wait is as exhilarating as the act.....sometimes...

 

[Fun For All]

For women who want relationships they don't want to come across as a ho.
For men who want a relationship they don't want a woman who is a ho. A fuck buddy that's a whole different matter.
Hence why women even if they want to fuck you immediately will pretend they are not a ho and make you wait.
Unless of course they want to do the walk of shame.

I've had great mutual relationships with "Fuck Buddies"...often friends either from school or work, some were too busy at work to put the time in for a relationship, others were married and didn't like their husbands or just wanted to screw around...we all got something out of it.

 

[Jenesis]

I think he’s trying to point out that he wouldn’t waste his time on a woman he’s dating that would withhold sex for that long. Any other woman wouldn’t withhold sex for a man she likes for that long also.

But a man can without money to ensure she is not a gold digger???? Fair is fair honey.

Take sex and money out of it and learn about each other first.

 

[Jenesis]

Also are you actually getting what you want? Think about the percentage of men who will put up with you withholding sex up until the 10th date. if your objective is to be in a committed relationship, you’re doing it backwards.

I don’t know your dating history but I do agree that escorting definitely skewed your perception. As a client myself, my perception is skewed also that’s why I had to cut back from seeing escorts by a lot. I love the pornstar look from escorts but I have to come to terms that not every woman I meet in my personal life is not going to have a boob job or a bbl. I had to compromise.

It is skewed in the fact that I don’t need a relationship because I still get male companionship. Not in the way you think or operate.

 

[canada-man]

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Clark Vaughan
1 year ago
The 90-day rule never worked on me. I always put the 90-day girl in the manipulative woman dustbin. Most times I would break it off before 90 days anyway. Reality rule: If a girl really wants you, she won't make you wait. Then she'll tell her friends "Oh, I made him wait."

 

[Tashki]

It is skewed in the fact that I don’t need a relationship because I still get male companionship. Not in the way you think or operate.

You completely ignored the first paragraph and the question I asked you. Whatever.

 

[Tashki]

But a man can without money to ensure she is not a gold digger???? Fair is fair honey.

I don’t know what you’re asking exactly but it’s not hard to detect a gold digger. if a woman volunteers to pay for the next date, she’s not a gold digger nor if she asks me to take her out shopping with my credit card…

“Honey”.

 

[Jenesis]

I don’t know what you’re asking exactly but it’s not hard to detect a gold digger. if a woman volunteers to pay for the next date, she’s not a gold digger nor if she asks me to take her out shopping with my credit card…

“Honey”.

My point is clear - if I am proving I am not a gold digger, you are proving you are not looking for just sex.

 

[Jenesis]

You completely ignored the first paragraph and the question I asked you. Whatever.

Sorry. I thought my other posts were clear. Maybe if you read them yourself - you would already know that ….

1. I am not at all interested in a relationship of any kind with a man on a personal dating level.
2. I am open to the possibly that may only be the case because I am an escort and already get male companionship so that possible need is already fulfilled.
3. I am getting everything I want in life right now and work very hard to ensure that doesn’t change.