I have not suggested that the parents have no rights. I am suggesting unequivocally that the childs rights are superior to the parent's.
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How naive can you be?
That's why I know you have no kids.
The child's rights are superior....what a childish thing to say.
You have no idea what it takes to be a parent, you have no idea about parent/children dynamics at different stages of development, the immense responsibility, and you want to dictate to parents what they are and aren't entitled to.
The fact that you can't understand how all this is creating an "anti Trans" push back just shows how clued out and self entitled you are.
I can't imagine any parent would not be enraged at the stuff your saying here.
If this kid's parents were abusive and beat the crap out of them for whatever reason, how could they ever find help if the student counsellor had to report their meetings to the parents?
If the parents are abusive that has to be dealt with first and foremost.
You can use that as an excuse for anything the child wants to keep from his parents.
Doesn't give you the right to exclude all parents from important issues in the kid's life.
I know that it's not perfect, but your solution is insane. Nothing is perfect, parents aren't perfect, kids aren't perfect.
Most kids don't even know how their parents will react, they fear the worst, I get it's really uncomfortable to deal with, so are a lot of other things, so the default position is to kick the parents out?
The parents have a right to know, they are responsible for everything about that kid. That trump's the kid's right to keep it from his parents.
It amazes me you can only see it from the kid's view, I'm not saying this to offend you, but that is so immature.
LoL. Your ability to determine my parenting schools is just amazing. Congratulations. Oh just one thing can you mention to my daughter the doctor and my son the bankers and 6heir respective spouses and children with who I enjoy a very close and warm relationship that I have been a terrible father. They may be interested to know.
You are too funny.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Everything you've said and how you've said it proves otherwise.
Your solution is insane.
If a kid has some crazed MAGA type father with an uncontrollable temper you'd take one of the few avenues for the kid to talk to someone.
That would make kids way more unsafe.
Yea, parents are monsters, especially the fathers right.
What if the counselor is some young pedophile looking to groom a confused kid for his own sexual gratification, is he still safe?
We could go on ad nauseam, but it's apparent you feel the evil is lurking only at home, deep inside the father .
I'm just trying to get you to understand why the school board policy exists, the one that says counsellors don't report to parents unless the kid is a real danger to themselves or others.
Or, this policy is giving rights to millions of young americans to choose their own lives.
New studies find millions of young nonbinary and transgender Americans
Story at a glance Roughly 1.6 percent of American adults are now transgender or nonbinary, according to a 2022 survey. That number is higher still among young adults, with 5 percent of people…
thehill.com
This is not policy, this is not even a study, this is an article about studies. The main study from Williams Institute which was originally created to promote and support LGBTQ initiatives. Not even saying they are necessarily wrong but they definitely have a direction they're going in.Or, this policy is giving rights to millions of young americans to choose their own lives.
New studies find millions of young nonbinary and transgender Americans
Story at a glance Roughly 1.6 percent of American adults are now transgender or nonbinary, according to a 2022 survey. That number is higher still among young adults, with 5 percent of people…
I believe most people accept the fact of sexual diversity but again, you're choosing to distract from the core issue of this discussion - whether parents/guardians should be informed of transitioning issues, dialogue, counseling, medical treatment with underage children.
But with what due process does it makes it ok the violate a parents right to at least know when they inquire? A guardian of a child should be able to have information when they request it.Or, this policy is giving rights to millions of young americans to choose their own lives.
New studies find millions of young nonbinary and transgender Americans
Story at a glance Roughly 1.6 percent of American adults are now transgender or nonbinary, according to a 2022 survey. That number is higher still among young adults, with 5 percent of people…
The manipulation of the law is being done here. They are not having neutral conversations with children. They are grooming them and hiding behind the law when the child reveals what is happening to the parent.
We don't know what happened.
We have what the mom said happened in that event and her demand that most of the administration be fired.
Very few facts are known here.
We don't know if anything you just said is true.
Yes, I saw, which is why I am asking what principle people are supporting here.
Because it really seems the principle being supported is "parents have 100% control of their children's lives and decisions and the school's responsibility is to snitch on the kids to the parents and never go against a parents' wishes. There is no situation or circumstance that ever justifies not telling the parent everything."
I think that is an insane standard and I would like to think that is not what people are advocating.
You just said in the post before this one that this discussion was not about the specific incident anymore.
If you want to argue in this case the school fucked up argue that.
The problem is we have no good evidence of what actually happened in this case.
We only have an angry mom saying it was a conspiracy to groom her child and keep her in the dark.
Frank and toguy say that yes, there is room for policy in which a parent isn't told about something by a counselor and a school.
You seem to be arguing that no, there is never a circumstance in which that is true. Or maybe you are arguing only that when it comes to sexuality or identity, there is never a circumstance where that is true.
OK - again.
Do you mean by this that there are no circumstances in which parents should not be informed or do you mean "the usual situation is that they should be informed"?
Because I don't think a single fucking person thinks parents should never be informed.
Ahh, and here we go with the "they are grooming" narrative.
Like I said earlier, that this is being framed specifically for the "The Evil Trans are Coming for Your Children with the Help of the Woke Elite" (probably the WEF or the Jews) isn't an accident.
Notice this article coming out at almost exactly the same time, but the other side of the country.
A Washington mom claims her school tried to ‘transition’ her ten-year-old daughter behind her back
A mother said her daughter was in “fifth grade” when the school therapist began secretly convincing her 10-year-old to “transition” into a new life as a boy.
www.foxnews.com
Read between the lines in that one, btw, and you might understand why I am very suspicious of the "they are refusing to talk to the parents and grooming the children" narrative.
