It was already addressed several pages ago. Assuming it is true that they are enriching to 60%, their sovereignty is being threatened by Israel and the US. They need a deterrent against the west. Simple.
Iran still enriching to 60%
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Oh gord, here we go again.
Israel and Iran should both honour all UN resolutions and both abide by the NPT.
I know, that's incredibly racist to you.
Iran and the US should renew the JCPOA, end sanctions and renew inspections.
Israel should abide by UN calls to dismantle nukes and sign the NPT.
No double standard, no racism.
Its just racist if you think people of only one religion shouldn't have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
Assuming it is true? Do you think Iran and the IAEA are lying about it?
And no, you might pretend that their sovereignty is threatened but the reality is the other way around. Thankfully you don't need to look at evidence like statements from Iran's government or the actions of the IRGC in other countries.
Yes, more of your excuses.
Israel, Pakistan, India, and North Korea are non-NPT nuclear powers yet you only want one disarmed. The US< UK, China, Russia, and France are nuclear powers yet you have no problem with them having nukes.
Iran is the party that refused to sign on and you have yet to condemn them for refusing the deal and no comment from you on their stated reason of not wanting the IAEA to investigate NPT violations. Instead all you want to do is blame Israel in your pathetic crusade.
Still waiting for you to comment on how Iran enriching to 60%, advancing their massive enrichment capacity, or refusing to address IAEA investigations into undeclared sites are justifiable without you trying to make it about Israel.
Disarm them all!
We could start that thread but it would end in that post.
Oh, except that you'd go on and on about how only Israel has the right to have nukes and not sign the treaty, the right to try to sell nukes to apartheid South Africa and the right to threaten to use nukes on other countries.
(We discussed the 60% thing months ago, its a stupid argument you lost then)
Except you've only been arguing about disarming one in a transparent attempt to avoid criticizing Iran. Just another case where you got cornered and come up with some nice sounding statement totally contradicted by your entire posting history.
If you really wanted all nuclear weapons obliterated, you'd be critical of Iran enriching to 60% for which they have no civilian use, their building massive enrichment capacity despite only having one civilian reactor, their hiding nuclear sites from the IAEA, and for refusing to re-enter a deal which would temporarily ensure that their nuclear program was peaceful. Instead you just bitch about Israel and Trump.
The fact that you can look at Iran which is one of the most repressive governments in the world and respond by making excuses for their nuclear program is astounding.
p.s. The 60% thing is not a stupid argument. It is possible to turn HEU into medical isotopes using very specific technology WHICH IRAN DOESN'T HAVE. Therefore the only reason for Iran to have it is the implied threat to the IAEA that they better stop investigating NPT violations.
Pakistan, India, China, NK have a very good reason for having nukes. Its mutually assured destruction. A deterrent.
So does Iran.
Israel, no. They have the support of the US. They dont need it.
Bullshit, I've repeatedly said the US and Iran should renew the JCPOA and Israel should abide by the UN and disarm their nukes and sign the NPT.
We went over the 60% thing, stop repeating that nonsense.
You just want Iran to not sign the JCPOA to justify starting a war with them.
Its been the Netanyahu/Israel wet dream for decades now.
Sign the treaties, don't escalate nukes.
Holy shit. Thanks for the transparent double standard.
BTW. Israel has had nukes for 60ish years and never used them, even when Syrian tanks were close to breaking through to Tel Aviv.
Well when you can use a double standard to justify that Israel can have nukes but Iran cannot (and they have NEVER), then why can't I just lay it out in the open about the reality of things.
Yes, but you've never even admitted that Iran is the one who refused to do so, stating they didn;t want their NPT violations investigated.
More racist trash based on a clearly discriminatory General Assembly motion. Amazing how openly you celebrate you anti-semitic double standard simply because you can't find your way to criticize Iran for their nuclear actions.
I never said Iran can't have nukes. I said they can't have nukes while remaining in the NPT. If they want nukes then they should do like North Korea did.
I also see the world being a far more dangerous place if more authoritarian regimes have nukes. Russia and China using their nuclear threat to defend their actions is bad enough without Iran (and quickly followed by Saudi Arabia) joining them.
1) Trump pulled out of the JCPOA, not Iran.
2) How pathetic that you now are calling the entire UN 'racist'. Calling for equal treatment of Palestinians and Israelis, or calling for equal treatment of Israel and Iran you now think is racist. How did you get to the point where equality = racism?
NPT is a treaty. Not a binding law.
And Iran still doesn't have nukes. Infact NATO has argued that if there is war, then that treaty doesn't apply and countries are free to leave without notice.
Iran being threatened by the west, is infact one of those cases, where the treaty doesn't mean anything.
And Iran refused to sign the new deal. Why are you incapable of admitting that?
Right. If Iran wants to pull out of the treaty and lose the financial benefits the treaty they signed they can.
And it is absolutely stupid you but the Iranian government line that the West is threatening them. You just seem upset that western countries dare criticize Iran for supplying weapons to Russia, for the international violence from the IRGC, or for executing dual citizens for protesting.
Criticizing is very different from threatening sovereignty which is what the US/Israel are doing.
Its a treaty, not binding law.
Israel has been pressuring the US not to renew the JCPOA.
Israel, and you, want war.
Exactly how? I've challenged on you this many times and you have yet to provide anything other than vague assertions.
More excuses and more of your Israel obsession.
Why can't you admit that at the most recent EU mediated negotiations, Iran refused to sign simply because they didn't want the IAEA investigating NPT violations?
Obviously you want a nuclear Iran simply because you want them to nuke Israel, regardless of the harm it would cause Palestinians. But you'll bitch about me saying this even though there's far more evidence backing it than your claims that I want war.
the most pathetic thing is Israel, me, Canada, the US, and the UN are mainly concerned with Iran not getting nuclear weapons. You even keep claiming to be against nuclear proliferation though that doesn't stop you making excuses for Iran.
