Jordan Peterson says Ontario psychologist licence may be suspended over public statements

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Jordan Peterson says Ontario psychologist licence may be suspended over public statements
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Controversial author and public figure Jordan Peterson has been told to undergo a mandatory “coaching program” by the College of Psychologists of Ontario (CPO) due to public statements he has made.

Peterson, however, said all of the complaints at issue are political and don’t have anything to do with his past or present clients as a psychologist.

“I am to take a course of such training, with reports documenting my ‘progress,’ or face an in-person tribunal and suspension of my right to operate as a licensed clinical psychologist,” Peterson wrote on Twitter.

Peterson, who has frequently made headlines for controversial views and is celebrated by the right-wing, said he won’t comply.

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Peterson first courted controversy for refusing to use gender-neutral pronouns while teaching at the University of Toronto. He has gone on to international fame with sold-out lectures and bestselling books.

The CPO is the governing body for psychologists in Ontario, with a mandate to “protect the public interest by monitoring and regulating the practice of psychology,” according to its website.

“About a dozen people from all over the world submitted complaints about my public statements on Twitter and (Joe) Rogan over a four-year period (out of the 15 million who follow me on social media) claiming that I had ‘harmed’ people (not them) with my views,” Peterson said.

He said the CPO could have viewed the complaints as vexatious, but decided to pursue them.

“I have been accused of harming people, although none of the complainants involved in the current action were clients of mine, past or present, or were even acquainted with any of my clients,” he said.

Peterson said many of those who submitted complaints claimed that they were his clients, despite that not being true.

Among the concerns are Peterson having expressed support for federal Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and criticizing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Peterson alleges. It’s not clear exactly what comments are of concern to the CPO — the organization didn’t say in a statement to Global News citing confidentiality regulations.

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Peterson has said that he intends to make public the allegations when possible while following legal and ethical restrictions.

In a column written by Peterson in the National Post Wednesday, Peterson added that he was accused of being “sexist, transphobic, incapable of the requisite body positivity in relationship to morbid obesity and, unforgivably of all, a climate change denialist.”

“Every single one of these accusations (and now accepted evidence of my professional misconduct) is independent of my clinical practice — which, by the way, has been suspended since 2017, when my rising notoriety or fame made continuing as a private therapist practically and ethically impossible,” Peterson wrote.

The National Post reported, however, that in 2018 Peterson agreed to a plan to improve his clinical practice. The newspaper said there are few details of what constituted professional misconduct in that instance, but the complaint had to do with the way he communicates with patients, the quality of his service, and psychologist/patient boundaries.

According to a document posted on Twitter by Peterson Wednesday morning from the CPO, its complaints committee said in a report that it is concerned that he “lacked professionalism in public statements made on social media and during a Jan. 25, 2022 podcast appearance.”

In turn, the CPO said Peterson must undergo a coaching program at his expense “to review, reflect on, and ameliorate (his) professionalism in public statements.”

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If he doesn’t undergo the program and the coach doesn’t provide a report indicating that the concerns have been “appropriately remediated in the public interest,” it may constitute professional misconduct and result in an investigation, the document says.

Peterson said that the situation shines a light on wider concerns in Canadian society, where professionals “fear to tell you the truth.”


In its statement to Global News, the CPO said, “The College is not authorized to discuss this matter as per the confidentiality provisions of section 36 of Ontario’s Regulated Health Professions Act, 1991.”

The CPO provided a link to the publicly available information regarding Peterson.

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Under the “discipline & other proceedings” tab of his profile, it confirms that Peterson is being required to take part in a “Specified Continuing Education or Remedial Program” regarding his “professionalism” in public statements.

It also says that Peterson has filed a Notice of Application for Judicial Review with the Ontario Divisional Court. Peterson said he is mounting a constitutional challenge.

In a follow-up email, Global News asked the college what conduct standards it has for licenced individuals in regards to their public behaviour not directly related to their practice, but did not receive a response.

The CPO’s professional standards regarding public statements largely refer to advertising of services, though there is a section regarding providing “information, advice, or comment to the public via any medium.”

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The CPO standards state that members must ensure that, among other things, “The statements are accurate and supportable based on current professional literature or research” and “the statements are consistent with the professional standards, policies and ethics currently adopted by the College.”

It’s not clear what professional standards may be of concern to the college regarding the matter with Peterson.

Peterson’s posts on Twitter regarding the CPO have garnered plenty of attention, including from Elon Musk.

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Musk appeared to encouraged Peterson to livestream any possible disciplinary hearing.

“I will make sure the disciplinary hearing, if and when it occurs, is made accessible on my YouTube channel,” Peterson said in response.

“And Twitter spaces, which I don’t know how to use yet.”

— With files from Andrew Russell





Long past due.
 

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You would think Canadians had learned by now not to tell Jordan Peterson what to say. The psychology professor became an internet sensation in 2016 after arguing that Canadian legislation amounted to “compelled speech” on gender pronouns. Now the College of Psychologists of Ontario is demanding that Mr. Peterson acknowledge he “lacked professionalism” in public statements and undergo a “coaching program” of remedial education.

Maybe the new commissars missed Mr. Peterson’s videos praising Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the man who said: “Live not by lies.” Mr. Peterson won’t comply, and he says he’ll now face a disciplinary committee that could revoke his license to practice.

The College of Psychologists, the profession’s governing body in Ontario, appointed an investigator in March to examine complaints about Mr. Peterson’s comments on Twitter and the popular Joe Rogan podcast. On Nov. 22, the College’s panel released a decision. Per images provided by Mr. Peterson, the panel ruled: “The comments at issue appear to undermine the public trust in the profession as a whole, and raise questions about your ability to carry out your responsibilities as a psychologist.”
What are these comments? Calling Elliot Page, the transgender actor, by his former name, “Ellen,” and the pronoun “her,” on Twitter. Calling an adviser to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau a “prik.” A sarcastic crack at antigrowth environmentalists for not caring that their energy policies lead to more deaths of poor Third World children.


Calling a former client “vindictive.” Objecting to a Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover of a plus-size model: “Sorry. Not Beautiful. And no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that.” In Canada even offenses begin with “sorry.”
“The impact risk in this case is significant,” the panel found, because the comments “may cause harm.” It counseled Mr. Peterson that coaching would help “mitigate any risks to the public.” The College of Psychologists declined to comment on the case, citing confidentiality.
Mr. Peterson responded sensibly: “Who exactly was harmed, how, when, to what degree, and how was that harm measured”? He says there have been about a dozen formal complaints since 2017, each one demanding a formal reply. One complainant cited Mr. Peterson’s Twitter response to a critic worried about overpopulation: “You’re free to leave at any point.” Mr. Peterson thinks the investigations aren’t about mitigating harm but preventing free expression, and that “the process is the punishment,” giving online detractors an effective way to badger him.
Professional bodies are supposed to ensure that practitioners are competent, not enforce political orthodoxies or act as language police outside the office. But that’s the trend in Western medical associations and beyond. The Law Society of Ontario had pushed a mandatory diversity pledge for all lawyers until a members’ revolt took over the board and nixed the pledge in 2019. At the time, an Ontario lawyer objected to the “ever-expanding mission to socially engineer the profession.”
Sounds like an issue of id, ego and superego. You could ask a psychologist about it.

The radical left is really threatened by Jordan....

 

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You would think Canadians had learned by now not to tell Jordan Peterson what to say. The psychology professor became an internet sensation in 2016 after arguing that Canadian legislation amounted to “compelled speech” on gender pronouns. Now the College of Psychologists of Ontario is demanding that Mr. Peterson acknowledge he “lacked professionalism” in public statements and undergo a “coaching program” of remedial education.

Maybe the new commissars missed Mr. Peterson’s videos praising Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the man who said: “Live not by lies.” Mr. Peterson won’t comply, and he says he’ll now face a disciplinary committee that could revoke his license to practice.

The College of Psychologists, the profession’s governing body in Ontario, appointed an investigator in March to examine complaints about Mr. Peterson’s comments on Twitter and the popular Joe Rogan podcast. On Nov. 22, the College’s panel released a decision. Per images provided by Mr. Peterson, the panel ruled: “The comments at issue appear to undermine the public trust in the profession as a whole, and raise questions about your ability to carry out your responsibilities as a psychologist.”
What are these comments? Calling Elliot Page, the transgender actor, by his former name, “Ellen,” and the pronoun “her,” on Twitter. Calling an adviser to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau a “prik.” A sarcastic crack at antigrowth environmentalists for not caring that their energy policies lead to more deaths of poor Third World children.


Calling a former client “vindictive.” Objecting to a Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover of a plus-size model: “Sorry. Not Beautiful. And no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that.” In Canada even offenses begin with “sorry.”
“The impact risk in this case is significant,” the panel found, because the comments “may cause harm.” It counseled Mr. Peterson that coaching would help “mitigate any risks to the public.” The College of Psychologists declined to comment on the case, citing confidentiality.
Mr. Peterson responded sensibly: “Who exactly was harmed, how, when, to what degree, and how was that harm measured”? He says there have been about a dozen formal complaints since 2017, each one demanding a formal reply. One complainant cited Mr. Peterson’s Twitter response to a critic worried about overpopulation: “You’re free to leave at any point.” Mr. Peterson thinks the investigations aren’t about mitigating harm but preventing free expression, and that “the process is the punishment,” giving online detractors an effective way to badger him.
Professional bodies are supposed to ensure that practitioners are competent, not enforce political orthodoxies or act as language police outside the office. But that’s the trend in Western medical associations and beyond. The Law Society of Ontario had pushed a mandatory diversity pledge for all lawyers until a members’ revolt took over the board and nixed the pledge in 2019. At the time, an Ontario lawyer objected to the “ever-expanding mission to socially engineer the profession.”
Sounds like an issue of id, ego and superego. You could ask a psychologist about it.

The radical left is really threatened by Jordan....

 
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I dont like Jordan Peterson or agree with anything he says.

But what exact professional code of conduct as it relates to clinical psychology, did he violate by being a right winger?
He's probably ready to retire. He is now a millionaire several times over. He give up his teaching job fairly easily. He is enjoying himself clearly. And becoming rich from it. There was a time he was worried about losing his job But that was before his book did so well.

Ask for the code... The lawyers Rebelled When they are code What's into politics. It seems Medicine It's not very enough to stop A power grab.

Peterson tvo Left wing work is well known. the. left changed without Peterson .
 
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Standard "provocateur" playbook.

1. Break a rule.
2. Attract disciplinary sanctions.
3. Claim that you are being targeted for your "outspoken candour and political views".
4. Refuse to comply with sanctions.
5. Get suspended.
6. Fund-raise for a "major lawsuit about political freedom in our fight against government tyranny".
7. Fuck around eventually doing the lawsuit. Fund-raise more because you've given yourself more time by fucking around.
8. Eventually launch the lawsuit. Fund-raise more.
9. Lose the lawsuit. Complain about "tyranny". File an appeal. Fund-raise more.
10. Lose the appeal. Complain about "tyranny". Fund-raise more.
11. Make money throughout doing speaking tours about your "struggle against tyranny". Fund-raise more.
12. Write a book about your "struggle against tyranny". Fund-raise more.
13. Laugh all the way to the bank. Fund-raise more.
14. Don't give a shit about your lost profession the entire time. Because JorPet hasn't actually had patients and practiced psychology for several years - in fact, ever since he started "struggling against tyranny" and fund-raising which makes 10x as much money as actually being a healer.
 

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You would think Canadians had learned by now not to tell Jordan Peterson what to say. The psychology professor became an internet sensation in 2016 after arguing that Canadian legislation amounted to “compelled speech” on gender pronouns. Now the College of Psychologists of Ontario is demanding that Mr. Peterson acknowledge he “lacked professionalism” in public statements and undergo a “coaching program” of remedial education.

The radical left is really threatened by Jordan....
Well, no. The College of Psychologists is not the "radical left". It's the governing body of a major health discipline. That means the psychologists of Ontario / Canada elected a board which mandated policies which Jordan broke.

Jordan doesn't agree with the policies and makes a shitload of $$$ disagreeing. But being a member of a regulated profession is kinda like being in the army: - There are rules. And there is discipline. You can't tell the drill sergeant to go suck a dick. It's called "fuck around and find out".

So Jordan has the option to leave the army or stfu. That's the same option all other psychologists have. Or he could politely organize a campaign to have himself elected to the College board and engineer change through the political process. But that's not fun and it doesn't make the kind of $$$ that being a "rebel" and fund-raising will make him - largely from his contributors who are almost all non-psychologists.

You can "analyze" how unfair and mean the College is and complain that they're arbitrary as much as you like. They're an elected body and the rules of conduct are properly enacted rules that the other psychologists - apparently - are quite willing to live with. Of course, you could spend several years in psychologist school, write the exams, pay the dues and try and get elected to the College board and try and change the rules yourselves.

I know you guys love anger-farming, but this isn't your fight. You're being played by a guy who loves attention and fame and who makes 10x as much money in a year as you make in a decade.
 

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What are you successful at? When you are dead how will you be remembered?
Why should I care?
I'll be dead.

I dont like Jordan Peterson or agree with anything he says.

But what exact professional code of conduct as it relates to clinical psychology, did he violate by being a right winger?
He made a series of statements that were hateful against some groups of people, which goes against the field of psychology.
He had the degree, but did he ever practice?
 

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Jordan Peterson has stated multiple times that he is leaving Twitter only to continue his stupidity on Twitter the next day. The guy is a pure attention whore.
Bang on. I have long suspected he has a manic personality disorder. That is more of a clinical diagnosis but attention whore works just as well. The drama this guys lives and feeds is tiresome. I would hate to be in his skin.
 
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He made a series of statements that were hateful against some groups of people, which goes against the field of psychology.
He had the degree, but did he ever practice?
I think he did before he blew up, but not since 2017 I think. I dont know if his statements on trans people, constitutes as going against the field of psychology though.
 

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Jordan Peterson for PM !!! Fuck Justin the Groper. The college of psychologists are going after him because he called Justin Groper a puppet. I hope he sues the fuck out of them. This all from a bunch of liberals that support the teachers to show children how to be Trans at school.


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