Iran still enriching to 60%

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Exactly, had the US renewed the JCPOA...
Holy fuck. Amazing that you keep saying this despite it being Iran who rejected the negotiated deal.


And it's pathetic that you think Iran is only supplying Russia with kamikaze drones because the US. Iran is giving them drones in exchange for more advanced weapons including some that were previously embargoed by the UN.
 

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Your pushing antisemitic tropes again, basketcase.
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Your claims are such a dumb attempt to justify your anti-Semitism. And you still push the idea that Jewish civilians in the West Bank are legitimate targets while also somehow pretending to want investigations. You clearly only want investigations led by people selected because of their anti-semitic stance like the supposed independent investigator who claimed the Jewish Lobby subjugated America.
 

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Holy fuck. Amazing that you keep saying this despite it being Iran who rejected the negotiated deal.
Trump pulled out of the JCPOA.
Biden is still refusing to end sanctions.
Iran said they are ready to negotiate.

Meanwhile.
Gantz tells graduating pilots they could be flying to attack Iran in 2-3 years
Outgoing PM Lapid boasts of Israel’s capabilities to conduct long-range strikes; President Herzog warns that air force can attack ‘any time and by any means, including Iran’
 

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Your claims are such a dumb attempt to justify your anti-Semitism. And you still push the idea that Jewish civilians in the West Bank are legitimate targets while also somehow pretending to want investigations. You clearly only want investigations led by people selected because of their anti-semitic stance like the supposed independent investigator who claimed the Jewish Lobby subjugated America.
Ah, more rights you refuse to give Palestinians.
Now you say they don't have the right to self defence against foreign settler colonialists attacking them in acts of terrorism with the backing of the state.

You sound more and more like Netanyahu these days.
According to you, Palestinians have no right to defend themselves from settler attacks and ethnic cleansing.

 

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It makes his comment no more worthy of consideration than any other person. I mentioned he's a linguist specifically because it signifies he has absolutely no idea of what is currently going on in Iran's issues with the IAEA other than things he may or may not read in the news.

And he is wrong to say that Iran is not a threat. They are heavily involved in terrorism and insurgency around the reason and the threat that them potentially having nukes has is to prevent anyone responding to Iran sponsored attacks. I know you are too focussed on Israel like the Arab leadership want but Iran with nukes means Saudi will get nukes. Two belligerent totalitarian regimes with nukes is not in the best interest of the world.
Given he has commented on, debated, studied and written about these issues for more than 60 years Chomsky is one of the most pre-eminent public intellectuals in the west. Chomsky is not just a linguist but also a historian, social critic, and political activist. So no, just because something is inconvenient for you to defend, doesn't mean it is "no more worthy of consideration". What is true however is that you have no real argument.

As he mentioned in the video, Iran is not a threat. Even the Israelis agree. Infact the Israelis think it would be nuts for Iran to not get nukes given the threats they face. The only threat of nukes, like Chomsky mentioned is it would result in failure of Zionism. Which is really just the jewish version of white nationalism. Hence why Israel today is really an apartheid state.
 

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Trump pulled out of the JCPOA.
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Keep digging. Your whining doesn't change the fact that the US was willing to sign a new deal and Iran refused with the sole reason given being the UN investigations of Iran's undeclared sites.


p.s. With their actions in Russia and their own domestic abuses, Iran sure as hell deserves sanctions.
 

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Given he has commented on, debated, studied and written about these issues for more than 60 years Chomsky is one of the most pre-eminent public intellectuals in the west. Chomsky is not just a linguist but also a historian, social critic, and political activist. So no, just because something is inconvenient for you to defend, doesn't mean it is "no more worthy of consideration". What is true however is that you have no real argument.

As he mentioned in the video, Iran is not a threat. Even the Israelis agree. Infact the Israelis think it would be nuts for Iran to not get nukes given the threats they face. The only threat of nukes, like Chomsky mentioned is it would result in failure of Zionism. Which is really just the jewish version of white nationalism. Hence why Israel today is really an apartheid state.
Sorry but plenty of people have commented on, debated, and written about conflict. Doesn't make them reasonable. He clearly has his take that the West in accountable for much of the problems in the world. He's allowed his opinion but as I said, he has very little actual information on the IRGC actions in other countries or on Iran's ballistic missile and nuclear programs.

For example, Iran sure seems to be a threat to Ukrainian civilians right now with their sending drones to Russia in exchange for promises of more advanced weaponry (eventually).

As I said (and you have no answer for) Iran with nuclear weapons is a guarantee that Saudi Arabia will get nukes to counter the geopolitical power they would bring. You might think that SA and Iran being nuclear powers a good thing but most people in the world disagree.



p.s. Love how you say the Israelis agree based on one commentator. Many Israelis take Iran's threats to eliminate Israel seriously. Here's one of their latest statements.
An Iranian strike on Israeli nuclear facilities would be a proportionate response for an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities but Iran says they will wipe out a city of half a million.
 

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Disgusting you claim It's a 'right' for Palestinians to attacks Jewish civilians.
I find it more disgusting that you lie about what I post.
Neither side has a right to attack civilians.
Your problem is that there were over 1000 settler attacks with the backing of the IDF last year.
Those are terrorists, not civilians.
How do you identify which are terrorists and which are civilian now?

Its just like your claims about Iran, you say they are the violent ones but we know which side is planning an attack and working to stop Iran from renewing the JCPOA.

Gantz tells graduating pilots they could be flying to attack Iran in 2-3 years
Outgoing PM Lapid boasts of Israel’s capabilities to conduct long-range strikes; President Herzog warns that air force can attack ‘any time and by any means, including Iran’
 

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I find it more disgusting that you lie about what I post.
Neither side has a right to attack civilians.
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Yet you keep saying that Jewish civilians in the West Bank aren't really civilians despite what your Amnesty says. You have spend years here proving you have no problem with terrorism if the perpetrators hate Israel as much as you do.



And still no comment from you on Iran threatening to raze Tel Aviv and no comment on Iran continuing to enrich to 60%, continuing to build enrichment capacity, and continuing t o stonewall IAEA investigators.
 

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Yet you keep saying that Jewish civilians in the West Bank aren't really civilians despite what your Amnesty says. You have spend years here proving you have no problem with terrorism if the perpetrators hate Israel as much as you do.
No, that's not what I say.
I say that the UN has stated that settlers are attacking Palestinian civilians with the support of the IDF. Those settlers are terrorists and there were over 1000 such settler terrorist attacks.
Settler civilians are not legit targets but Palestinians who target settlers can now say in court they think they are terrorists and attacks would not become self defence to an illegal occupation.

Its up to Israel to stop terrorism committed by settlers in order to keep those settlers acting as civilians safe.

And still no comment from you on Iran threatening to raze Tel Aviv and no comment on Iran continuing to enrich to 60%, continuing to build enrichment capacity, and continuing t o stonewall IAEA investigators.
Israel razed what, 650 Palestinian homes last year and you said nothing.
Israel has repeatedly threatened war and you have said nothing.
Israel is also refusing to abide by UN resolutions calling for them to dismantle their nukes and sign the NPT, you said nothing.

I say that the US and Iran should renew the JCPOA and Iran should undergo inspections.
The US needs to sign the treaty, end sanctions and bring Iran into the fold so they stop aligning with Russia.
 

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No, that's not what I say.
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Except it is. Every attack on Jewish civilians in the West Bank has had you ignore it, respond by saying the Jews shouldn't have been there in the first place or that they're legitimate targets because some other Jews are militants (of course that logic would have you declaring all Palestinians as legitimate targets).
 

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And still no comment from you on Iran threatening to raze Tel Aviv and no comment on Iran continuing to enrich to 60%, continuing to build enrichment capacity, and continuing t o stonewall IAEA investigators.


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Israel razed what, ...
Considering the outright inveions of your least two stories, how about actually sharing the details of those homes razed? How many of them were homes that went through a length court case showing the legal owners were Jewish? How many were properties contracted without permits and not attached to municipal services? How many of them belonged to convicted terrorists (a dumb policy IMO though far better than groups liek Hamas planning and conducting the terror atatcks in the first place?



Israel has repeatedly threatened war and you have said nothing.
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What bullshit. Israel has never said they will attack Iranian cities and never said they will remove Iran from the pages of history the way that Iran has done. Israel has been very clear their issue is solely with Iran having an unregulated nuclear program while having spent every year since 1979 calling for Israel's destruction and supplying groups directly trying.
 

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Except it is. Every attack on Jewish civilians in the West Bank has had you ignore it, respond by saying the Jews shouldn't have been there in the first place or that they're legitimate targets because some other Jews are militants (of course that logic would have you declaring all Palestinians as legitimate targets).
Its the same logic you use on Palestinians, so of course you don't think it applies.
Same way you keep claiming Palestinians don't have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation you also say they don't have a right to self defence against terrorism.

If you want to end terrorism from both sides, end the occupation and end apartheid.
But you seem to support Netanyahu more than you support equal rights and peace.


Settler attacks are terrorism.
Why do you think Palestinians aren't allowed self defence against terrorism?
 

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Considering the outright inveions of your least two stories, how about actually sharing the details of those homes razed? How many of them were homes that went through a length court case showing the legal owners were Jewish? How many were properties contracted without permits and not attached to municipal services? How many of them belonged to convicted terrorists (a dumb policy IMO though far better than groups liek Hamas planning and conducting the terror atatcks in the first place?
What a surprise that you defend apartheid laws used to strip Palestinians of their homes.

Israel/OPT: Latest UN recognition of apartheid comes amid soaring attacks on Palestinian homes
The UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Adequate Housing is the latest human rights expert to recognize that Israel is committing apartheid against Palestinians. At the UN General Assembly today, Special Rapporteur Balakrishnan Rajagopal presented a report on housing rights worldwide which states that the system of racial oppression and discrimination that has led to the destruction of Palestinian homes “is nothing short of apartheid”.

Military incursions, closures, state-backed settler attacks, home demolitions, and destruction of property are all manifestations of Israel’s apartheid system

Heba Morayef, Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa
 

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Speaking of no surprise, no surprise you want to turn a thread about Iran's extremely provocative nuclear program into just another racist screed about Israel





You can try to push your excusal of terrorism in threads on Israel.
Posting UN statements is racist to you?
That's very sad.

If you want to talk provocative nuclear programs you need to also come down on Israel and demand they scrap their nukes and join the NPT.
 

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Posting UN statements is racist to you?
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You're racist, no matter what you post. The way you salivate at ridiculously ridiculous GA votes targeting one nuclear power and ignoring the rest simply because you hate Israel existing is the exact same pathology that has you obsessively defending Iran's actions.

Iran is still enriching to 60%. Iran is still expanding their massive enrichment capacity for one civilian reactor. Iran is still stonewalling UN inspectors over basic NPT violations. Iran is still the one who walked away from negotiations.
 

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You're racist, no matter what you post. The way you salivate at ridiculously ridiculous GA votes targeting one nuclear power and ignoring the rest simply because you hate Israel existing is the exact same pathology that has you obsessively defending Iran's actions.

Iran is still enriching to 60%. Iran is still expanding their massive enrichment capacity for one civilian reactor. Iran is still stonewalling UN inspectors over basic NPT violations. Iran is still the one who walked away from negotiations.
'no matter what I post'.
Uh huh.

Israel and Iran should both honour all UN resolutions and both abide by the NPT.
I know, that's incredibly racist to you.

So be it.
 

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'no matter what I post'.
Uh huh.

Israel and Iran should both honour all UN resolutions and both abide by the NPT.
I know, that's incredibly racist to you.

So be it.
Still waiting for you to comment on how Iran enriching to 60%, advancing their massive enrichment capacity, or refusing to address IAEA investigations into undeclared sites are justifiable without you trying to make it about Israel.

Or about how Iran rejected a negotiated deal saying it was explicitly because of the IAEA investigation.





And yes, a UNGA motion singling out one nuclear power is just part of the GA (and your) Jew obsessions.
 
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