Covid raging in China. Canada needs to test all arrivals from China immediately

curr3n_c1000

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They do have vaccines. Its not like vaccines here are preventing anything. I got covid 3 times after taking 3 shots.

And we can definitely trust pcr test results. I am sure they can manage that lol
Clearly they can't make reliable tests and have inefficient vaccines.

I find it completely ridiculous that China doesn't have to adhere to any type of WHO standard and you are ok with opening travel with them. Especially when it has been fully revealed they completely failed at containing the virus.

No justification for this. Absolutely irresponsible.
 

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Clearly they can't make reliable tests and have inefficient vaccines.

I find it completely ridiculous that China doesn't have to adhere to any type of WHO standard and you are ok with opening travel with them. Especially when it has been fully revealed they completely failed at containing the virus.

No justification for this. Absolutely irresponsible.
How do you know they cant make reliable tests or vaccines? Based on what evidence?

Agreed that China doesn't have much transparency from the government, but I think it is an overreaction to ban regular people who dont have Covid and who dont show symptoms, from travelling. Canada officially accepts Chinese vaccine proofs (and did in the past). So not sure what your issue is with accepting vaccine proofs, presenting test results at boarding and testing them on arrival here in Canada.
 

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How do you know they cant make reliable tests or vaccines? Based on what evidence?
You're trolling me right? 🤣

What leads you to believe that they do have reliable vaccines and test? They've hid information and lied about everything since day 1.
Agreed that China doesn't have much transparency from the government, but I think it is an overreaction to ban regular people who dont have Covid and who dont show symptoms, from travelling. Canada officially accepts Chinese vaccine proofs (and did in the past). So not sure what your issue is with accepting vaccine proofs, presenting test results at boarding and testing them on arrival here in Canada.
Italy already confirmed half the Chinese passengers on 2 flights had covid.

Their system is unproven and they refuse to reveal what's happening. This should be an easy "No Go". If this was anything else it would be a rejected process.
 

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You're trolling me right? 🤣

What leads you to believe that they do have reliable vaccines and test? They've hid information and lied about everything since day 1.

Italy already confirmed half the Chinese passengers on 2 flights had covid.

Their system is unproven and they refuse to reveal what's happening. This should be an easy "No Go". If this was anything else it would be a rejected process.
Government not releasing information and saying that they dont have facilities for a basic PCR test and some vaccine is unrelated. China is one of the major countries in the world and they have significant scientific human capital to atleast come up with a vaccine and covid tests.

So what if 2 passengers had covid? If you test them and find that they have covid then isolate them. Otherwise they are good.
 
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China could be using the best MRNA vaccine and they could have 100% vaccination rate but they would still be screwed because of their bipolar approach to everything, especially covid. It would not surprise me that in a week the CCP goes back to zero covid policy and the week after that they will go back to a cough-freely policy.
 

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Government not releasing information and saying that they dont have facilities for a basic PCR test and some vaccine is unrelated. China is one of the major countries in the world and they have significant scientific human capital to atleast come up with a vaccine and covid tests.

So what if 2 passengers had covid? If you test them and find that they have covid then isolate them. Otherwise they are good.
They're a mess.

2 passengers? OK. Try 52%.

All evidence point to a ban.
 

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Government not releasing information and saying that they dont have facilities for a basic PCR test and some vaccine is unrelated. China is one of the major countries in the world and they have significant scientific human capital to atleast come up with a vaccine and covid tests.







So what if 2 passengers had covid? If you test them and find that they have covid then isolate them. Otherwise they are good.


They don't value human life and freedom the same. Life is cheap over there.
 

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They're a mess.

2 passengers? OK. Try 52%.

All evidence point to a ban.
Thats why am saying test them before they board. They wouldn't have boarded. And test them when they arrive.
 

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Canada will require a negative Covid test for all travelers coming China, HK and Macao starting Jan. 5

Sounds more like pay back for the 2 Micheals and the dressing down from Xi Ping Pong at the last Conference when JT should have been asking him the best place to get Cantonese Chow Mien for the Canadian Delagation....then after JT and Minister Joly could have done the funky chicken back at the hotel in their private suite
 

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Thats why am saying test them before they board. They wouldn't have boarded. And test them when they arrive.
A waste of resources and will create problems on our end. No need to import issues, we have enough.

Minimum 2-week ban (should be 30 days) makes much more sense. Just delay travel.
 

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Bogash appears to me he never wants his 15 minutes of fame to ever end as a Toronto media darling. I suspect he wants another covid wave so the calls from cp24 etc light up his phone again for his opinion.
Ya, you're right! You are definitely better off getting your medical needs attended to by your plumber.

My mechanic told me I needed breaks just before Christmas, so I brought my car to Stinkynuts.

Hey @stinkynuts when will it be ready man, it's 2023!!!!
 
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A waste of resources and will create problems on our end. No need to import issues, we have enough.

Minimum 2-week ban (should be 30 days) makes much more sense. Just delay travel.
Its not a waste of resources to get them to test before they board. We did it until April this past year on our dime. No reason to blanket ban anyone who is not sick.
 

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My mechanic told me I needed breaks just before Christmas, so I brought my car to Stinkynuts.

He @stinkynuts when will it be ready man, it's 2023!!!!
It'll be ready when he is done picking that engine up off of the floor. Wait, what? You just had to fix a flat tire???!!
 
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curr3n_c1000

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Its not a waste of resources to get them to test before they board. We did it until April this past year on our dime. No reason to blanket ban anyone who is not sick.
Exactly. This is the same approach we took when India was peaking and it failed. Canada ultimately had to place a 30 day travel ban.

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
 

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Exactly. This is the same approach we took when India was peaking and it failed. Canada ultimately had to place a 30 day travel ban.

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
And the ban didn't help.

See tweet above from Isaac Bogoch that mandy posted.

These targeted travel policies do nothing to keep variants and waves out of our countries.

We need to get over this culture of panicking because of Covid, and take it in stride. Yes people will get sick, and then they recover. Just get your vaccine, and get a move on with your life instead of restrictions of any kind.
 
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