Is sugar dating killing the sex industry?

[RobI]

Been talking with a few guys on this and other boards lately about sugar dating as an alternative to escorts.

Personally, I've seen a few from different websites over the years, and it's got to the point where I rarely see escorts anymore, just because I find the experience better.

For married guys, obviously, escorts are easier to fit into your life, but then again, it seems like many successful guys already have some side piece.

I realize this is a forum for guys looking for escorts, but how many guys here have tried sugar dating? If not, what's stopping you?

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[Pleasure Hound]

I realize this is a forum for guys looking for escorts, but how many guys here have tried sugar dating? If not, what's stopping you?

Lack of money.....

 

[RobI]

Lack of money.....

That's the thing I think a lot of guys are thinking the higher initial cost.

Many of these ladies can't host (that changes once you start seeing ladies in their late 20s-30s) because they live at home or have roommates, so you have to factor in a hotel or invite them over.

On the other hand, you're not doing a 45-minute/1-hour meeting where the clock starts running as soon as you knock on the door. So if you give them a 300-500 gift each time, you usually spend a few hours with them.

So yes, if all you have is $120, it's better to spend at a spa or a quicky somewhere.

 

[Leimonis]

That's the thing I think a lot of guys are thinking the higher initial cost.

Many of these ladies can't host (that changes once you start seeing ladies in their late 20s-30s) because they live at home or have roommates, so you have to factor in a hotel or invite them over.

On the other hand, you're not doing a 45-minute/1-hour meeting where the clock starts running as soon as you knock on the door. So if you give them a 300-500 gift each time, you usually spend a few hours with them.

So yes, if all you have is $120, it's better to spend at a spa or a quicky somewhere.

My latest observations briefly:
I cannot imagine the number of rejections you'd have in toronto if you are offering 300. It must be as frustrating as civilian dating lol. Even at 500 the quality of women is inconsistent at best, and every good lay is a bit of a miracle at this point. Much as in civilian dating it REALLY helps if you are not super particular about looks, especially weight. Most Sds/johns bounce back and forth between seeking and Sp scene, and SBs/Sps often do the same...

 

[Ssuper]

I think it’s a scam, seeing the same ladies for the same thing but paying more!!!

At my age I’m a one shot dude. 1/2 - 1hr plenty of time. I don’t need companionship. It’s not for me.

 

[MONTYY]

The poll question, aka Thread Title, does not really match up well with the voting categories. It is misleading.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

If not, what's stopping you?

I just want to be in and out. Not trying to 'meet' anyone.

 

[bazokajoe]

I don't want someone calling me asking me for money for a mani/pedi. For rent, gas, expensive cloths, jewelry, or worse just asking for it for the sake of it. Yes I see them as gold diggers.
I'll be more than happy to pay for an escorts time and when the time is up we are both happy we got what we wanted and that's it. Transaction closed.

 

[Robichouuu]

Escorts are much cheaper than a sugar babe, best to move around and see several gals, I tend to stick to one gal only. it will be cheaper for you especially if its sex your lookin for only!! Sugar babes are good in the sense you can both figure out a schedule that works for you as opposed to a agency that post the schedule and you need to try and get the time you want. Indy escorts are good for accommodating I find, once again more expensive. You have to find what works for you! and keep within your limits whatever they may be.

 

[canada-man]

NEVER LEAD WITH YOUR WALLET

 

[SuddenAwakening]

At that point I would just get a girlfriend...but I can see the appeal.

 

[GeeBee]

Sugar dating isn't killing the Sex Industry, it's just another part of the Sex Industry. Another option for both the buyer and the seller.

Agencies and Indy escorts aren't going anywhere.

 

[mandrill]

In the sense that it attracts hot women who would otherwise be escorts, it impacts the escort industry.

 

[xyphy]

I think you are all forgetting the one basic principle in our hobby. We don't pay for the services, we are paying for them to go away after.
Most men don't want the drama that involves civvies. We want to get in, have some fun, get out. If there's a regular that we can go see, all the better but the back and forth and work involved to be an SD is too much for most of us.
I've had some civilian hook ups that could be considered SB/SD scenarios and they were fun, but took more work and also the giving up of too much personal info for my liking. So I do speak from experience as being able to compare the two. I recently tried to work something out with someone I met and the amount she wanted was insane compared to what I can find in the SP world.
So NO, I don't think it's killing the sex industry at all.
the poll is not in line with the Subject title

 

[Leimonis]

In the sense that it attracts hot women who would otherwise be escorts, it impacts the escort industry.

For all we know sugaring is a gateway and it ends up drawing more women into escort industry after they become disillusioned with sugaring

 

[Daddy2021]

Been talking with a few guys on this and other boards lately about sugar dating as an alternative to escorts.

Personally, I've seen a few from different websites over the years, and it's got to the point where I rarely see escorts anymore, just because I find the experience better.

For married guys, obviously, escorts are easier to fit into your life, but then again, it seems like many successful guys already have some side piece.

I realize this is a forum for guys looking for escorts, but how many guys here have tried sugar dating? If not, what's stopping you?

They are one and the same. A girl that is asking for some sort of financial retribution for time/sex regardless of time spent together is still an SP no matter how you want to dress it up. Sure you can kid yourself into believing your cute little college girl is really just that but at the end of the day you don’t pay up , she’s gone faster than you can swipe a credit card. Same thing, different costume.

 

[jalimon]

Since i live in a second suburb about 45 minutes out of montreal the SB scene was great for me.

My searches were focused on girl in my area, thus they asked for much less. I rejected every girl asking for monthly fees. Only pay per meet. First date was a quick meet over coffee to see if there is a match.

Spent time with 4 girl. Particularly with a 24 year old teacher. She was free every Friday morning but did not told her boyfriend. Her boyfriend did not like sex much... he told her cum in mouth was gross....He was also telling her to lose weight as she was a bit curvy...

Which aroused me so much. Her curves were at the right place and boy did i let her knew. I made her discover what daty and digit can lead to when a men is a bit of a pig like me

One day she told me it would be our last meet as she had dump her boyfriend and met someone new. A hot young guy... She thanked me for the confidence i gave her. I replied to shut the fuck up i simply fucked her best i could and it was for my own pleasure. We both laughed it off

The 3 other girls were similar in age and life situations. None of these girls would have accepted being a regular sp.I say 'regular' because the only difference is that they wanted to choose the guy and not the other way around.

But that was my experience. I am in my early 50's and since i started 13 years ago the sp scene has changed so much. We get much less for so much more $. SB market is most probably a big reason for that.

 

[jsanchez]

They are one and the same. A girl that is asking for some sort of financial retribution for time/sex regardless of time spent together is still an SP no matter how you want to dress it up. Sure you can kid yourself into believing your cute little college girl is really just that but at the end of the day you don’t pay up , she’s gone faster than you can swipe a credit card. Same thing, different costume.

SB's are escorts who don't want to call themselves escorts.

 

[jsanchez]

Sugar dating isn't killing the Sex Industry, it's just another part of the Sex Industry. Another option for both the buyer and the seller.

Agencies and Indy escorts aren't going anywhere.

Nothing will kill the sex industry.

 

[RobI]

My latest observations briefly:
I cannot imagine the number of rejections you'd have in toronto if you are offering 300. It must be as frustrating as civilian dating lol. Even at 500 the quality of women is inconsistent at best, and every good lay is a bit of a miracle at this point. Much as in civilian dating it REALLY helps if you are not super particular about looks, especially weight. Most Sds/johns bounce back and forth between seeking and Sp scene, and SBs/Sps often do the same...

My experience has been otherwise, yes if you're an out-of-shape older guy who doesn't take care of themselves (sorry, I know that sounds mean) escorts are your go-to.

I think a lot of guys approach sugar dating as if they are seeing escorts. Yes, you're right there are definitely escorts on these sites (just as some working girls have OnlyFans too, or work at spas too - diversify your income streams and all that ) but you also have a lot of girls who are not into the life, they are doing this to get out of a situation, not as a long-term job. There's a reason sign-ups seems to spike around holidays, start/end of school and you don't see a whole bunch of new LeoList girls pop up around Christmas