Ottawa says 60% of vehicle sales must be electric by 2030

hamermill

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The stupidity of it all.... will the charging infrastructure be in place. More over will vehicles will be available and oh yes there will be zero incentive for car manufacturers to be competitive

Fully electric cars and trucks would be worth a bigger credit than plug-in hybrid versions, though the government acknowledges that plug-in hybrids will likely remain in demand in rural and northern areas.

Manufacturers or importers who don’t meet the sales targets could face penalties under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act through a phased-in approach.

The Libtards assume they will be in power after the next election.



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One-fifth of all passenger cars, SUVs and trucks sold in Canada in 2026 will need to run on electricity under new regulations Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault is proposing Wednesday.

By 2030, the mandate will hit 60 per cent of all sales and by 2035, every passenger vehicle sold in Canada will need to be electric.

Guilbeault’s parliamentary secretary Julie Dabrusin said during Wednesday’s announcement the new target is “about making sure that Canadians have access to the vehicles they want.”

Manufacturers or importers who don’t meet the sales targets could face penalties under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act through a phased-in approach.

Canada still has a long way to go before approaching the first target in 2026.

In the first six months of this year, sales of fully-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles made up just 7.2 per cent of new car registrations. For all of 2021, the proportion was 5.2 per cent.

Cara Clairman, president and CEO of Plug’n Drive, a non-profit encouraging electric vehicle use, said the toughest part of promoting the change from gas-powered vehicles is availability.

“Long waiting lists are definitely discouraging consumers that are ready to make the switch,” she said. “And if we all agree that we’re in a climate emergency, we need to help consumers make the switch as soon as possible.”

Under the draft regulations, to be formally published Dec. 30, the government proposes tracking the sales by issuing credits for vehicle sales.

Fully electric cars and trucks would be worth a bigger credit than plug-in hybrid versions, though the government acknowledges that plug-in hybrids will likely remain in demand in rural and northern areas.



The mandate fulfils a 2021 Liberal election promise. It’s the first major set of regulations to come out of an emissions reduction plan the government published in April.

That plan is Canada’s broad road map toward hitting its goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions across all sectors to a level in 2030 that is 40 to 45 per cent below what it was in 2005.

Passenger vehicles account for half of all road transportation emissions and about 10 per cent of Canada’s total emissions across all sectors.

Before Wednesday’s move, Canada already had targets for electric vehicle sales. But they were not enforceable, and the government wasn’t successfully compelling car companies to ramp up the number of electric vehicles available for sale.

The new targets will be countrywide, though some provinces are already ahead of others.

An analysis on Quebec and British Columbia’s mandates released last week by the Canadian Climate Institute concluded that the mandates helped both provinces move well out ahead of the rest of the country on electric-vehicle use.

Anna Kanduth, a senior research associate at the institute, said global supply of zero-emission vehicles is still limited, though it is growing quickly.

“Auto manufacturers are largely prioritizing jurisdictions with some type of sales mandate,” she wrote, adding that places with mandates have much higher rates of zero-emission vehicle adoption and more model choice.

B.C. is leading the field in electric-vehicle sales, which account for almost 15 per cent of all new vehicles registered between January and June. Quebec is in second, at 11.4 per cent of registrations.

There is a steep drop off to third-place Ontario, where only 5.5 per cent of new registrations are for electric vehicles. The number is below four per cent in all other provinces.

“What happens is that the vehicles are going to those jurisdictions with a sales target,” Dabrusin said.

“I would encourage any jurisdiction that’s looking at how to assist on the affordability piece, and to encourage the purchase of zero-emission vehicles, that they also consider and look at what’s happening across our country.”

Editor’s note: (Dec. 21, 2022): A previous version incorrectly said Canada is moving to mandate electric vehicle sales starting in 2025.
 

krealtarron

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I'll just buy the other 40%. EVs have no soul. They are basically just computers and wheels.
 

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Fully electric cars and trucks would be worth a bigger credit than plug-in hybrid versions, though the government acknowledges that plug-in hybrids will likely remain in demand in rural and northern areas.

Manufacturers or importers who don’t meet the sales targets could face penalties under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act through a phased-in approach.

When the government starts to dictate the sales targets for specific products to business it is no longer a fee market economy.
 

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60% of car salesmen will also be electric by then. Does anybody on this thread know when the next Luddite meeting is going to be?
 

jalimon

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When the government starts to dictate the sales targets for specific products to business it is no longer a fee market economy.
It's their role to set boundaries.

We probably will miss that target. For various reason pointed out by others here in the thread.

Does it matter? No.

p.s. whenever I see a thread with the word libtards I roll my eyes and think 'ha fuck another egoist zealot who cannot comprehend public policies'.
 

JohnLarue

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It's their role to set boundaries.
it is not their role to set sales targets or dictate demand to private enterprise

We probably will miss that target. For various reason pointed out by others here in the thread.
the best reason being the liberals will become the opposition

Does it matter? No.
yes it does matter

p.s. whenever I see a thread with the word libtards I roll my eyes and think 'ha fuck another egoist zealot who cannot comprehend public policies'.
fine....... substitute "fools" for "libtards"


When the government starts to dictate the sales targets for specific products to business it is no longer a fee market economy.
that is not in the relm of 'public policy'
 
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jalimon

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When the government starts to dictate the sales targets for specific products to business it is no longer a fee market economy.
that is not in the relm of 'public policy'
Dude they only set a goal for production of electric care sales. Pretty much all country in the world have done the same. It's exactly the role of our government to do that. Producer of cars will adjusts. Actually they already are so such goal will actually help them.
 

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Dude they only set a goal for production of electric care sales. Pretty much all country in the world have done the same. It's exactly the role of our government to do that. Producer of cars will adjusts. Actually they already are so such goal will actually help them.
no producers of cars adjust to market demands, not ill conceived foolish government proclamations
 
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Is there something wrong with aspiring to something that is good for the planet and the economy?
 

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Is there something wrong with aspiring to something that is good for the planet and the economy?
This new policy by the liberals is a bit bogus as many countries or american states have announced similar policies so car producers are already all on it
 

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I'll just buy the other 40%. EVs have no soul. They are basically just computers and wheels.
But what if Kia makes an EV version of the Kia Soul.

Also most people when the start adulting don't give a fornication of a car has soul or not, it's an appliance. Maybe if you live in Germany [until they bring the 130 kph speed limit] or track your car sure. Other than that, all this 0 to 60 stuff is small dick energy.
What's my car 0 to 60. Yes
How much HP does my car have. Enough.
 

krealtarron

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But what if Kia makes an EV version of the Kia Soul.

Also most people when the start adulting don't give a fornication of a car has soul or not, it's an appliance. Maybe if you live in Germany [until they bring the 130 kph speed limit] or track your car sure. Other than that, all this 0 to 60 stuff is small dick energy.
What's my car 0 to 60. Yes
How much HP does my car have. Enough.
I think that is your opinion. There are lots of people including myself who just enjoy the drive and the experience. For me the HP and Torque and the way the car performs matters.
 

toguy5252

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This new policy by the liberals is a bit bogus as many countries or american states have announced similar policies so car producers are already all on it
If they are already on it 5hen that makes to goal or aspiration that much more realistic and achievable.
 

JohnLarue

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Is there something wrong with aspiring to something that is good for the planet and the economy?
you are sadly mistaken if you think EVs would be good for the planet or the economy
the mining for the materials required would increases dramatically
increasing the cost of personal transportation will add to the current inflationary problem and exclude many from participating
 
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