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canada-man

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All you had to say is you love Canada more but you couldn’t do it because you know it’s true, Israeli lap dog at its finest!

So you just admitted to be an anti Jewish hater hiding behind the Palestinian people. Every so called pro Palestinian i come across are anti semitic. and refuse to condemn hamas and other terrorists
 

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So you just admitted to be an anti Jewish hater hiding behind the Palestinian people. Every so called pro Palestinian i come across are anti semitic. and refuse to condemn hamas and other terrorists
You accuse others of slander and lying about people's views, but here you are doing the same thing.

What you don't seem able to understand is that if you are against racism in general you should be against apartheid just as much as you are against antisemitism and Islamaphobia.
Its all the same, racism.

So how can you claim to fighting against racism while pretending that you're not also defending apartheid?

By the way, here's another post on the Israeli settler organization that you said protesting against was antisemitic.
 
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So you just admitted to be an anti Jewish hater hiding behind the Palestinian people. Every so called pro Palestinian i come across are anti semitic. and refuse to condemn hamas and other terrorists
Israel-Man strikes again, if you love them so much why don’t you join their Zionist army and slaughter innocent kids? Why do you remain in Canada?
 

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Israel-Man strikes again, if you love them so much why don’t you join their Zionist army and slaughter innocent kids? Why do you remain in Canada?
Israel-Man strikes again, if you love them so much why don’t you join their Zionist army and slaughter innocent kids? Why do you remain in Canada?
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You accuse others of slander and lying about people's views, but here you are doing the same thing.

What you don't seem able to understand is that if you are against racism in general you should be against apartheid just as much as you are against antisemitism and Islamaphobia.
Its all the same, racism.

So how can you claim to fighting against racism while pretending that you're not also defending apartheid?

By the way, here's another post on the Israeli settler organization that you said protesting against was antisemitic.

Franky once again linking to an organization that promotes anti-semitism so what else is new.

 

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Department of Education Opens Investigation into Berkeley Law’s ‘Jew-Free Zones’


The United States Department of Education (DOE) has launched an investigation of University of California, Berkeley, Law School over so-called “Jew-Free Zones” which banned Zionist speakers from campus events.

The agency announced last week that it will determine “whether the university failed to respond appropriately” when members of the campus Jewish community said they “experienced a hostile environment” after several student groups approved the bylaws disallowing Zionists from speaking at certain events.


Proposed by the law school’s Students for Justice in Palestine chapter in August, the Jew-Free Zones were part of a resolution endorsing the boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) movement.

News of the bylaws, first passed in October, immediately prompted a storm of responses from Jewish and non-Jewish leaders across the political spectrum, as well as a New York Congressman who vowed to propose legislation that would strip University of California, Berkeley of its public funding.


The DOE’s Dec. 15 decision comes in response to a civil rights complaint filed by Arsen Ostrovsky of the International Legal Forum and Florida-based attorney Gabriel Groisman.

The complaint called on the Department of Education to investigate the university for “profound and deep-seated antisemitic discrimination” under violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which bars discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin in federally-funded programs.

“Anti-Zionism is antisemitism,” Ostrovsky told The Algemeiner. “At the core of our case is the fact that Zionism is something that is an integral and indispensable part of our Jewish identity. So, therefore, this issue is not about the First Amendment and free speech but an issue of basic discrimination and denial of equal rights to Jews, students first and foremost but also faculty and staff as well.”

“We got to the point where we said enough is enough,” he continued. “We cannot sit idly by while Jewish students are being discriminated against openly and blatantly, and we need to act.”

Ostrovsky also said that news of the “Jew-Free Zones” was unsurprising. Students for Justice in Palestine chapters at dozens of universities have launched similar efforts aimed at silencing Zionists on campus, “putting students some of them who are undergrads in the most untenable of situations,” he added, while urging UC Berkeley to abolish the bylaws and adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism, which lists anti-Zionist discrimination as an example of Jew-hatred.

The DOE’s complaint comes just over a month after AMCHA Initiative, a nonprofit monitoring antisemitism in higher education, issued a report finding that over 250 incidents of anti-Zionist antisemitism occurred on college campuses during the 2021-2022 academic year.


The report cited dozens of antisemitic incidents — of which Harvard University had the most — falling under its categories, including the expulsion of two Jewish women from a support group for sexual assault survivors at SUNY New Paltz, Harvard University’s campus newspaper endorsing the boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) movement and its claim that “Zionism is Racism,” and a campaign against so-called “S***** Zionist Classes” organized by the University of Chicago’s Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chapter.

Jewish groups have also asked the US Department of Education to issue new legal regulations which would protect Jewish students from anti-Zionist discrimination and harassment under the Civil Rights Act. But an Executive Order issued by former President Donald Trump in 2019 directing the department’s Office of Civil Rights (OCR) to do so has not yet led to any new policy directives under the Biden administration.

Department of Education Opens Investigation into Berkeley Law’s ‘Jew-Free Zones’ | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com
 

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I quoted the UN, who stated the law.
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Show me the UN law, declaration, or statement that says people in occupied territories can't be terrorists. The fact that you not only believe this but openly state it clearly shows you are nothing more than a disgusting racist who thinks attacks against Jewish civilians is okay.

Nothing else needs to be said about how fucked up your world view is. And then you go on to justify the overt anti-semitic trope pushed by the Special Rapporteur.

Seriously guy, go look at yourself in a mirror.
 

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When are you going to apologize for being a Zionist supporter?
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So I guess you didn't want to explain your idea to bring peace in the middle east.

And sad that you think believing a country has a right to exist is something worth apologizing for.
 

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I said hate, not 'incite hate'.
There are 56 pages to this thread and not once have you suggested you have anything but hatred for Palestinians.
You post repeatedly demonizing them for protesting for the end of the occupation and apartheid.
There is nothing but hate in those posts.

There's nothing to prove, its all there.
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Obviously you need a mirror.
 

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I didn't ask about all that. I am asking why you as a black guy, and possibly non-Jewish are vehemently supporting zionism when it has nothing to do with you?
Why shouldn't a black guy be allowed to comment when overt racists speak up? I'm English/Irish, should I have to shut up too?


And what 'right' do you have to speak on the topic?
 

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Being pro Israel is very different from being a zionist mouth piece.
You have a very different definition of terms. Zionism is typically the belief that Jews in Israel have a right to self-determination. Being pro-Israel means supporting the decisions/actions of Israel's government.


But a related question, do you believe Israel has a similar 'right' to exist as any other country?
 

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Israel's new minister of the interior was charged with terrorism.
The Flag March, posted above, is terrorism.
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More franky lies. He was convicted for incitement to racism.

Groups like Hamas on the other hand are racists and terrorists.
 

krealtarron

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You have a very different definition of terms. Zionism is typically the belief that Jews in Israel have a right to self-determination. Being pro-Israel means supporting the decisions/actions of Israel's government.

But a related question, do you believe Israel has a similar 'right' to exist as any other country?
Yeah enough with the Israeli propaganda dump. We've been through that once before.
 
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Yeah enough with the Israeli propaganda dump. We've been through that once before.
So your claims to differentiate between Zionism and pro-Israeli is all pretence then? No surprise.

But you're the guy who uses the skin colour of a poster as an excuse to dismiss his ideas.
 

krealtarron

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So your claims to differentiate between Zionism and pro-Israeli is all pretence then? No surprise.

But you're the guy who uses the skin colour of a poster as an excuse to dismiss his ideas.
Being pro-Israel is supporting the PEOPLE of Israel, whatever their religion may be. Not being pro-Israeli government. That just makes you a government lackey.

Zionism on the other hand is akin to white nationalism in the west. It is fundamentally racist. End of story.

Canada-man is expressing zionist views. Aka racist views towards palestinians. So I wanted to know what his deal was all about.
 

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Franky once again linking to an organization that promotes anti-semitism so what else is new.
You called Bishop Desmond Tutu an antisemite, didn't you?
You called JStreet antisemites.
You called IJVCanada antisemites.
You called Amnesty antisemites.
Now its CJPME?

How about the NDP and Greens, they are against Israeli apartheid.
You gonna slander them as well?

You're as wacked as Kanye.
 

Frankfooter

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Show me the UN law, declaration, or statement that says people in occupied territories can't be terrorists.
I didn't say they can't be terrorists.
The UN says you can't call people terrorists to justify killing them.
The Geneva Conventions say that the occupying army has to protect the native population, labelling them 'terrorist' doesn't negate a war crime.
And you keep backing war crimes and apartheid.

"We remind Israel that pending the dismantlement of its unlawful occupation, Palestinians in the occupied Palestinian territory must be treated as protected persons, not enemies or terrorists," the experts said in a statement.

You need to stop backing war crimes, labelling people 'terrorist' based on race and apartheid.
You use the word 'terrorist' as the new 'n' word.
You use it as a racist slur.
 
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