In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

basketcase

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You are the one that keeps bringing up the IHRA definition.
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Yes. Canada's definition of anti-semitism which you regularly violate. Of course you don't like it.

For example, Palestinians polling and statements from Palestinian leaders reject the concept of peace if it involves a Jewish presence but you solely blame Israel for it and tell the Palestinians they better listen to what you want them to do.

I know you consider shooting at random Israelis to be resistance but international law says otherwise Lions Den has committed repeated attacks on Israeli civilians and the fact that 79% want more like them identifies a significant issue. the rest of their attacks have been against Israeli troops trying to arrest people for attacks on civilians. I'm sure you'll pretend it's all Israeli propaganda but these creeps film their attacks and upload them on social media.


I'm saying zionism is a racist endeavour.
Thanks for admitting your anti-semitism.
 

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So you think a ministry of health is the same as an army?
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The Israeli Army is overseen by a democracy while the Hamas Ministry of Health is overseen by a terrorist group so yes, I think Israeli reports are more likely to be truthful than those by Hamas. Sadly you keep denying Hamas targets civilians and keep denying that Hamas is racist, even when they freely admit it.
 

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Ten Reasons Why Anti-Zionists Are Antisemites

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I'd accept anti-zionist claims from a hardcore communist who opposes the idea of nations but considering how often franky and his ilk demand self determination for Palestinians, it is absolutely racist for him to deny and illegitimatize the self determination for Jews in the area.
 

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Cool, your article is of course pushing your favourite antisemitic trope: that its antisemitic to criticize apartheid and the occupation.
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It is when you target Jews who have nothing to do with the decisions you dislike.

Well, some people you disagree had an event.
Meanwhile there is real terrorism occurring.
Shot 4 times on her own roof looking for her cat.
This is terrorism, will you condemn it and admit there is Israeli terrorism?

Palestinian teenager Jana Zakarneh was shot four times by Israeli sniper as she fetched her cat
Of course you choose to omit the whole situation.

Israelis go to arrest suspected terrorists, come under heavy fire from surrounding rooftops and open fire when someone pops up in the middle of it.

It's a shame it happens but it's also a shame that groups like PIJ and Lions Den turn every possible arrest into a gun battle in civilian areas. Oh that's right, you think everything is Israel's fault for trying to arrest people who attack civilians and you consider Palestinians beneath criticism.
 

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Was that the one who said the Jewish Lobby subjugated America?

Of coursethere's that inconvenient fact that the majority of those dead were killed when either committing terror attacks against civilian or in gun battles with the military.
The inconvenient fact is that its an occupation, so no, Israel doesn't have the right to label people 'terrorists' and assassinate them any more than it has a right to have gun battles with the people they occupy.
“We remind Israel that pending the dismantlement of its unlawful occupation, Palestinians in the occupied Palestinian territory must be treated as protected persons, not enemies or terrorists,” the experts said, demanding Israel ensure the protection, security and welfare of the Palestinian people living under its occupation, in accordance with its obligations under international law.

Your repeated labelling of Palestinians as 'terrorist' is just a new form of the 'n' word.
Its pure racism.

There were 255 settler terrorist attacks, none of which you posted about.
None.

Since the beginning of the year, settlers conducted at least 255 attacks. In two of the attacks, 2 Palestinians were killed.

You only use the word 'terrorist' as a racist slur, otherwise you'd have to admit that Israelis commit way more acts of terrorism and you don't care.
 

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Yes. Canada's definition of anti-semitism which you regularly violate. Of course you don't like it.

For example, Palestinians polling and statements from Palestinian leaders reject the concept of peace if it involves a Jewish presence but you solely blame Israel for it and tell the Palestinians they better listen to what you want them to do.

I know you consider shooting at random Israelis to be resistance but international law says otherwise Lions Den has committed repeated attacks on Israeli civilians and the fact that 79% want more like them identifies a significant issue. the rest of their attacks have been against Israeli troops trying to arrest people for attacks on civilians. I'm sure you'll pretend it's all Israeli propaganda but these creeps film their attacks and upload them on social media.



Thanks for admitting your anti-semitism.
You repeatedly post antisemitic tropes, claiming its racist to criticize Israeli policy or post Amnesty reports stating that Israel is apartheid.
In this post you posted Islamaphobic hate speech by claiming that Palestinians support ethnic cleansing.
For 55 pages in this thread you have defend apartheid.

You need a mirror.
 

Frankfooter

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It is when you target Jews who have nothing to do with the decisions you dislike.


Of course you choose to omit the whole situation.

Israelis go to arrest suspected terrorists, come under heavy fire from surrounding rooftops and open fire when someone pops up in the middle of it.

It's a shame it happens but it's also a shame that groups like PIJ and Lions Den turn every possible arrest into a gun battle in civilian areas. Oh that's right, you think everything is Israel's fault for trying to arrest people who attack civilians and you consider Palestinians beneath criticism.
Of course you're defending shooting a 16 year old girl who went out on her roof to get her cat.
Just like you defend Israel killing civilians every single time.
The Great March of Return - you defended killing hundreds and injuring 14,000
Shireen Abu Akleh - you defended shooting an American journalist

Every single time you defend killing civilians.
Then you turn around and accuse Palestinians of being 'terrorists'.

Buy a mirror.

So far in 2022, IOF attacks killed 185 Palestinians, including 123 civilians: 37 children, 8 women,

Since the beginning of 2022, Israeli occupation forces made 139 families homeless, a total of 821 persons, including 161 women and 373 children. This was the outcome of IOF demolition of 159 houses and dozens of residential and agricultural tents.


Why do you keep defending settler colonialism and apartheid occupation as it keeps killing more and more people?

Israel: UN experts condemn record year of Israeli violence in the occupied West Bank
 

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Franky continues to lie and slander claiming i defended the killing of a 16 year old.

Every time he lie I will post links to is terror supporting posts and his anti Jewish posts
No, I accused basketcase of defending shooting a 16 year old girl getting her cat off of her roof.
You should apologize for the false accusation.
 

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No, I accused basketcase of defending shooting a 16 year old girl getting her cat off of her roof.
You should apologize for the false accusation.
My mistake i thought that was directed at me


And when are you going to apologize for lying about my posts?
 

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The inconvenient fact is that its an occupation, so no, Israel doesn't have the right to label people 'terrorists' ...
WTF?

Are you just making up bullshit to justify attacks on Jews now?

Canada labels Hamas as terrorists because they are terrorists. if Lions Den acts much longer, they will join the list.


But I'm sure you'll give some excuse why shooting at civilian drivers is really an act of "self defence".



And your stupidity has no bounds because I have repeatedly condemned the radical settlers and have called them terrorists. You seem to not have talked about the hundreds of attacks on civilians or soldiers committed by Palestinian militants in the past few months.

Stop lying about what I post.
Its below you.
But you've repeatedly argued it's okay to target non-Israeli Jews because of your obsession about Israel. You justified vandalism on a Jewish owned restaurant and justified protesting outside a Jewish business.

Of course you're defending shooting a 16 year old girl ...
You are so full of shit. Saying she was shot when she popped up in the middle of a gun battle is not defending. The difference between you and I is I acknowledge that Palestinian gunmen trying to stop the arrest of a suspected terrorist was a huge part of the cause. The lies you include in every argument you make just solidifies the fact that your claims have zero moral consistency and simply based on your obsession with Jews in the Middle East.


And your Gaza group is 100% full of shit with their claims. The vast majority of the dead were killed while either attacking Israeli civilians or actively in battles against troops. In either case, they lose the right to be considered innocent civilians. Your so-called rights group seems to call people civilians even though many are publicly memorialized as being members of militant/terrorist groups.



BTW. Full data is out from the most recent Palestinian polling. Any comment on this?
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And despite all your attempts to tell Palestinians what you need them to do, they still prefer a Two State peace over the One State farce(32% to 26%), still think "armed action" is the best solution (53%), and against arresting people for attacks on civilians (87%).

Why are you so afraid you criticize these viewpoints?
 

basketcase

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Thank you for apologizing.
When have I ever lied about your posts?

Again the woman who said the Jewish Lobby subjugated America. As long as you're happy hanging out with outright antisemites.


“America and Europe, one of them subjugated by the Jewish lobby, and the other by the sense of guilt about the Holocaust, remain on the sidelines and continue to condemn the oppressed — the Palestinians — who defend themselves with the only means they have (deranged missiles), instead of making Israel face its international law responsibilities,”

 

Frankfooter

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I quoted the UN, who stated the law.
Deal with it.

Are you just making up bullshit to justify attacks on Jews now?
Are you still denying Palestinian basic human rights, like the right to self defence against an illegal, apartheid occupation?
There is an easy answer to ending the attacks.
End the occupation and apartheid rule.

Canada labels Hamas as terrorists because they are terrorists. if Lions Den acts much longer, they will join the list.
Canada labels the Israeli government's Interior Minister as a terrorist, leading a terrorist party.
Are you against terrorism or not?



And your stupidity has no bounds because I have repeatedly condemned the radical settlers and have called them terrorists. You seem to not have talked about the hundreds of attacks on civilians or soldiers committed by Palestinian militants in the past few months.
Bullshit.
255 terrorist attacks by Israeli settlers in occupied Palestine.
How many of these did you post about?
Zero.


But you've repeatedly argued it's okay to target non-Israeli Jews because of your obsession about Israel. You justified vandalism on a Jewish owned restaurant and justified protesting outside a Jewish business.
No, you've repeatedly lied about what I say because you have no moral ground left anymore.
You're defending apartheid, no wonder you have to lie about what I say.
Just like you still think saying 'Free Palestine' is antisemitic, which is an antisemitic trope.

You are so full of shit. Saying she was shot when she popped up in the middle of a gun battle is not defending.
A 16 year old girl was on her own roof trying to bring her cat in and she was shot 2 times in the head and two times in the chest.
Even now you're blaming her for being 'in the middle of a gun battle' with zero evidence.
That is defending killing children and now you're going so far as to make up claims to defend killing Palestinians.

And your Gaza group is 100% full of shit with their claims. The vast majority of the dead were killed while either attacking Israeli civilians or actively in battles against troops. In either case, they lose the right to be considered innocent civilians. Your so-called rights group seems to call people civilians even though many are publicly memorialized as being members of militant/terrorist groups.
Your racism knows no bounds.
You refuse to admit that Palestinian civilians exist, instead calling every single one that Israel kills a 'terrorist' in order to dehumanize them to justify killing them.

BTW. Full data is out from the most recent Palestinian polling. Any comment on this?
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What do I say?
Congrats, this is exactly what your policies have been leading towards.
No peace talks.
Demonizing the UN, Amnesty and international bodies.
Calling BDS 'terrorists'

Now you seem surprised that violent resistance to the apartheid occupation you defend is the only avenue left.
Palestinians have a right to self defence.

If you want to end the violence end the occupation.
End the apartheid.
 

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Again the woman who said the Jewish Lobby subjugated America. As long as you're happy hanging out with outright antisemites.


“America and Europe, one of them subjugated by the Jewish lobby, and the other by the sense of guilt about the Holocaust, remain on the sidelines and continue to condemn the oppressed — the Palestinians — who defend themselves with the only means they have (deranged missiles), instead of making Israel face its international law responsibilities,”

That is so much more offensive than apartheid to you?
Wow.

Typical 'attack the messenger' article, by the way.
When you can't defend against the charge of apartheid that's all you've got left.
Slander the UN.

Read the report, answer to that.
 

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My mistake i thought that was directed at me


And when are you going to apologize for lying about my posts?
When are you going to apologize for being a Zionist supporter?

When will you change your name to Israel-man? Since you love that nation more than you love Canada, oh the irony!!
 

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When are you going to apologize for being a Zionist supporter?

When will you change your name to Israel-man? Since you love that nation more than you love Canada, oh the irony!!
Will you condemn hamas? And FYI people who tend to hate Israel also support racist terror regimes like China and claiming that I love Israel more than Canada is an anti Jewish trope accusing jews of having no loyalty.

So will you condemn hamas?
 
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