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Not Even N95 Masks Work To Stop Covid ( We also now have multiple randomized controlled trials confirming that masks don’t prevent the spread of COVID

squeezer

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Okay take off your mask and go lick a doorknob then.

N95 masks have pores that are much bigger than the virus itself, but it does protect against particulates that the virus could be suspended in - such as respiratory droplets.

In any case a barrier is better than no barrier.

That said, I am not for mask mandates, but to say masks are not effective AT ALL is utter nonsense.
Doctors in hospitals are so misinformed about mask-wearing, who would have ever thought it to be so? Thank God with have the Terby Scientists showing us the way.
 

richaceg

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What's the matter, is Justin making you upset? He's going to beat up on Pee Pee, you know that right? :eek: ;)
Justin is Ok with me...I benefited a lot with him as PM...his stance on Chinese protests is ok with you? Don't care much about "pee pee"
 

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Justin is Ok with me...I benefited a lot with him as PM...his stance on Chinese protests is ok with you? Don't care much about "pee pee"
No matter which way he would have swung on the Chinese protest he would be criticized so, he chose which way to fall on. It's politics and it is unfashionable to side with China these days.
 

squeezer

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Justin is Ok with me...I benefited a lot with him as PM...his stance on Chinese protests is ok with you? Don't care much about "pee pee"
Plus I will add, the Police here handled the occupiers with kiddie gloves where as China doesn't mess around. I would have preferred the stun guns, tasers, and heavy-pressure water blasters were employed here instead of just corralling them along. I should be in charge dammit.
 

richaceg

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No matter which way he would have swung on the Chinese protest he would be criticized so, he chose which way to fall on. It's politics and it is unfashionable to side with China these days.
here's a thought...maybe just don't comment about China...there's always that thing you call "neutral"...
 

Valcazar

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Brownstone was formed in 2021 to attack peer reviewed epidemiology.
The post suggests surgeons should ditch their masks when performing surgery.
I'm going to have to go look at the real paper when I have time.

The fact that the study is described ( even in the Brownstone article) as being " To determine whether medical masks are noninferior to N95 respirators to prevent COVID-19 in health care workers providing routine care. "
but then the Brownstone piece switches gears and says "That trial design was also important as it was meant to determine whether or not N95 respirators were superior to “regular” surgical masks." makes me think they are trying to pull a fast one here.
 

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Okay take off your mask and go lick a doorknob then.

N95 masks have pores that are much bigger than the virus itself, but it does protect against particulates that the virus could be suspended in - such as respiratory droplets.

In any case a barrier is better than no barrier.

That said, I am not for mask mandates, but to say masks are not effective AT ALL is utter nonsense.
RCT Study was not done on licking door knob! Your analogy is stupid on licking doorknob!
 

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Doctors in hospitals are so misinformed about mask-wearing, who would have ever thought it to be so? Thank God with have the Terby Scientists showing us the way.
I am retired got lot of spare time to look online different forum & read online , surf internet & watch you tube video. Once I find informative information. I posted here. What so hard to understand!! Not everyone have the spare time to find updates information . This help me to kill time on my spare time as opposed to other people may not have the spare time!

You such a hubris!
 

squeezer

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I am retired got lot of spare time to look online different forum & read online , surf internet & watch you tube video. Once I find informative information. I posted here. What so hard to understand!! Not everyone have the spare time to find updates information . This help me to kill time on my spare time as opposed to other people may not have the spare time!

You such a hubris!

I know you are but what am I????? HAHAHA, I just wanted to recapture my days in Elementary school.

You need to find a hobby or better yet, sign up for a few University courses and enlighten your mind.

PS..." you're" just saying......
 
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mandrill

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Is it ok to protests about the lockdowns or not? When people in China exercise their rights to protests, they should be allowed because it's human rights...When people protests in your doorsteps we should lock them up?
You mean the assholes who blocked the international bridge and caused a shortage in auto parts? Those "protestors"?
 

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Everyone is moving on from the pandemic and living their lives except for a few terb members who are stuck in the rabbit hole. I'm seeing escorts and traveling.
 

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Not Even N95 Masks Work To Stop Covid

SATURDAY, DEC 03, 2022 - 10:30 PM
Authored by Ian Miller via the Brownstone Institute,




“The Experts™” have repeatedly tried to deflect from the failure of their policies with misdirection.


The reason lockdowns didn’t work in the United States or the United Kingdom is because they weren’t strict enough, according to many in the expert community.

Of course, their excuses have been conveniently ignored as China’s repressive zero COVID lockdowns have continued, with horrific consequences.

Now that mass protests have broken out in the country that “The Experts™” revered for their COVID handling, there’s a massive effort to disregard their own previous advocacy.

This is perhaps best exemplified by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who clearly used authoritarian measures to suppress the protests in his own country, while now supporting Chinese demonstrations



The bewildering lack of awareness of their own hypocrisy seems to be a feature of COVID-obsessed politicians and public health authorities.

Another similar, oft-repeated assertion is that the failure of universal masking can be explained by the type of masks being used by the public.

Even though the CDC and Dr. Fauci explicitly claimed that wearing anything to cover your face would be effective at preventing transmission, many have now quietly dismissed that messaging.

Fauci specifically said that “cloth coverings work,” not just surgical or N95s. Former Surgeon General Jerome Adams famously suggested that rolling up a t-shirt in front of your face would be effective protection.

Yet public health departments and the media are now highlighting the importance of “high quality,” “well-fitted” masks.

Their desperation to justify masking has led to remarkably poor studies being released to support their anti-science messaging.

There is new research that has been released showing that masks are ineffective, regardless of type.

And it’s not just new research, it’s high quality research.

Finally, Another RCT on Mask Wearing
The Annals of Internal Medicine just published a randomized controlled trial comparing the ability of medical masks to prevent COVID infection to fit-tested N95s.

Importantly, this trial was conducted on healthcare workers who would be most likely to use masks appropriately.


That trial design was also important as it was meant to determine whether or not N95 respirators were superior to “regular” surgical masks.

They examined 29 different health care facilities on multiple continents, from North America to Asia and Africa.

The percentage of healthcare workers testing positive for COVID in each group was tracked to determine how effective or ineffective higher-quality masking was in preventing infection.

Unsurprisingly, the results confirmed that there is essentially zero difference between surgical or N95 respirators when it comes to tests results.


52 of 497 participants who wore medical masks got COVID-19, and 47 of 507 in the N95 group got COVID-19.


No matter how “high quality” your mask is, it’s entirely irrelevant.

The researchers also took pains to ensure that the control and treatment groups shared as many similarities as possible.

They excluded workers who could not pass a fit test, had laboratory-confirmed COVID, or “had received 1 or more doses of a COVID-19 vaccine with greater than 50% efficacy for the circulating strain.”

Yet none of that mattered; there was no difference in outcomes between the medical and N95 level masks.

The N95s in use were even specifically fit tested and approved respirators, far from the KN95s commonly used by the general public.


It didn’t matter.

Even more importantly, these disappointing results were from facilities with universal masking policies in place.

Everyone, in each health care facility, “for all activities,” was required to wear masks.


It still didn’t work.

They even tracked potential exposure points, whether at home, in the community or in hospital exposures.

There was no difference.

What’s even more impressive about the futility of masking is that outside of Egypt, the observed results occurred before the more contagious Omicron variant emerged.

There were substantial differences in results between countries, which indicates the impact of N95s might have been further muted had it covered the Omicron period.






Canada, which was observed pre-Omicron, showed the biggest “benefit” to N95s, while post-Omicron Egypt was nearly identical.

It’s possible that the mild difference in Canada could have been erased entirely if subjected to the Omicron era.

On top of being functionally useless, N95s were substantially more likely to result in adverse effects.

According to the results page, there were significantly more reported issues in the respirator group:


This becomes even more noteworthy since compliance with respirator masking was lower.


While still extremely high, health care workers “always” wore N95s 80.7% of the time instead of 91.2% for medical masks.

This is one of the many issues the “experts” now pushing for (now disproven) “higher-quality” masking should address.

Health care professionals who are trained to use N95s can’t always use them yet experience higher rates of adverse effects.

Imagine how much worse compliance would be among the general public, especially if 13% are suffering significant side effects.

Results Show Expert Incompetence
This is yet another randomized controlled trial to show that masks do not work.

It also confirms the DANMASK study conducted earlier in the pandemic, which proved there was no benefit from masking in COVID prevention.

Even the Bangladeshi study, comparing villages, showed there was no benefit to masking at a population level. They used statistical misdirection and purposeful p-hacking to try and generate a positive result, and still could only get to a ~10% reduction for those over 50.

No matter the quality, no matter the compliance, masks are entirely ineffective at preventing transmission or infection.

The participants in this examination lived and worked in environments where universal masking was a requirement.

It didn’t matter.

This also examined health care workers, who, in theory, would be using and disposing of medical or N95 level masks properly.

There was no difference.

Now imagine how much worse the results would look for mask fanatics if it examined the Fauci-approved cloth coverings.

If “The Experts™” actually cared about following “the science,” or “the evidence,” this would once again be the nail in the coffin for masking.

More like the 40th nail in the coffin.

We have observational evidence through population-level comparisons that masks do not prevent the spread of COVID.




We also now have multiple randomized controlled trials confirming that masks do not prevent the spread of COVID.

And we have extremely well done comparisons of neighboring jurisdictions confirming it.

All the mask fanatics have is politically motivated wishful thinking, desperate advocacy from disproven CDC “studies,” and a commitment to avoiding reality.

Fauci and his health authority allies have lied to the public repeatedly about masking. The obsession with credentialism and appeals to authority within the media has resulted in tremendous, unjustified harm.

You’d hope that results like these would finally end their ridiculous posturing, but it’s abundantly clear they’re too dug in to ever relent.

But thankfully those paying attention now have even more ammunition in the fight for the inarguable scientific reality that masks do not work.
High on ivermectin again, dude?
 

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I am retired got lot of spare time to look online different forum & read online , surf internet & watch you tube video. Once I find informative information. I posted here. What so hard to understand!! Not everyone have the spare time to find updates information . This help me to kill time on my spare time as opposed to other people may not have the spare time!

You such a hubris!
Yeah, but its all shit! You literally eat shit and regurgitate it here. Stop that. It's useless to everyone and everything. You aren't informing anyone.....
 

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Everyone is moving on from the pandemic and living their lives except for a few terb members who are stuck in the rabbit hole. I'm seeing escorts and traveling.
Being one of the "free" ones and not wearing masks anymore, I can understand why masks (and gloves) are important to those with weak immune systems and prone to sickness.

For the rest of us, there's licking doorknobs.....
 

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Being one of the "free" ones and not wearing masks anymore, I can understand why masks (and gloves) are important to those with weak immune systems and prone to sickness.

For the rest of us, there's licking doorknobs.....
Not me...I'm licking pussy.
 

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No only you...not one person in Canada should comment about the protests in China as we have no say on what's going on there...If we're dealing with protesters the way we do...Not a single politician should run their mouth about what's going on in China and how China is dealing with the protests...
Because you can't see a difference between briefly lasting individual protests against absolute lockdowns and people occupying a city because they were asked to wear a mask while grocery shopping?

Sorry but by the time the anti-Trudeau protests happened, there were very few covid restrictions in Canada.
 
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