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Frankfooter

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Landlords are their own worst enemies; it doesn't require any "spidey sense" to know if your tenant isn't going to be a good tenant; it does require a lot of vetting, which most aren't willing to do, and also a good working knowledge of the RTA & how the evictions process and LTB work. Unfortunately, it seems to take an incident like this to motivate most landlords. A lot of them think their duties only involve sitting back & letting the rent roll in.
Its also the system right now. Ford has rejigged the LTB so that their primary focus is letting corporate landlords raise rent and small time family landlords have to wait 7-8 months to get a review of a tenant in arrears, if at all.
 

JeanGary Diablo

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From the article: "CBC News is not revealing Marco's last name because he works as a commission-based mortgage specialist and fears it would affect his employment."

LOL, so rather than give you Marco's last name, we'll post a photo of him and tell his line of work.

Reminds me of an episode of the Simpsons. "To protect the man's identity, we'll call him Homer S. ... Oh, wait, that's too obvious. We'll call him H. Simpson."
 

Vera.Reis

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Taking a mortgage on a property you're going to rent is an investment and investment comes with risk.

Normally the type of people defending a landlord would look at other types of loans and say "if you can't afford it, don't buy it."

Why is this mentality not applied to landlords who mortgage to rent? Don't get a mortgage you can't afford and blame someone else for your inability to pay your own debt.
 

Ceiling Cat

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In some jurisdictions you can get an emergency hearing at the rental board to evict the problem tenant that obviously has no intention of paying and is just going along for the maximum he can get out of the situation. Assuming that the landlord is in the right and the tenant has no legitimate complaints, the landlord can prevail due to pressing personal needs..
 

Frankfooter

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In some jurisdictions you can get an emergency hearing at the rental board to evict the problem tenant that obviously has no intention of paying and is just going along for the maximum he can get out of the situation. Assuming that the landlord is in the right and the tenant has no legitimate complaints, the landlord can prevail due to pressing personal needs..
CBC has an article on a woman who couldn't get a hearing at the LTB until CBC posted an article.
Took that much pressure for them, they kept refusing to give her a hearing and she was about to lose her home.
Dougie has given the LTB over to corporate landlords, screwing over the average Ontario homeowner/landlord.

 

Bobzilla

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Meant to say you were arguing my point. Anyway, signing a lease promising to maintain etc. etc. is a rock-solid guarantee the landlord has nothing to worry about. The world runs on blind faith and mutual trust. What could go wrong?
Maybe you can point to where I said a lease is a "rock-solid guarantee" of anything. Oh, that's right, you can't, because I never said that. That's the 3rd time you've tried to put words in my mouth.

The fact is, even if you take a ridiculous amount of precaution as far as screening tenants, there's always a chance you'll get screwed as a landlord. The key is to have enough info to be able to get your money back if that happens.

There's a big variance between accepting things on "blind faith and mutual trust" and expecting someone to not act like a total savage with your rental until. It's not just those 2 ends of the spectrum. But you can keep acting like it's that simple if you want, no matter how wrong you are.
 

Bobzilla

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Its also the system right now. Ford has rejigged the LTB so that their primary focus is letting corporate landlords raise rent and small time family landlords have to wait 7-8 months to get a review of a tenant in arrears, if at all.
Rent increases are not allowed to be larger for corporate landlords. And actually, for 2021, rent increases not requiring LTB approval were frozen due to covid. Corporate landlords are in no better shape when it comes to waiting for a hearing, although they are likely better able to withstand their tenants paying no or reduced amounts of rent.
 
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Claudia Love

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Rent increases are not allowed to be larger for corporate landlords. And actually, for 2021, rent increases were frozen due to covid. Corporate landlords are in no better shape when it comes to waiting for a hearing, although they are likely better able to withstand their tenants paying no or reduced amounts of rent.
I have a question my landlord says hes wanting a 5% increase. I dont even want him increasing it at all lol what can I say if hes illegally asking for the going rate without making a problem for me?
 

Robert Mugabe

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Maybe you can point to where I said a lease is a "rock-solid guarantee" of anything. Oh, that's right, you can't, because I never said that. That's the 3rd time you've tried to put words in my mouth.

The fact is, even if you take a ridiculous amount of precaution as far as screening tenants, there's always a chance you'll get screwed as a landlord. The key is to have enough info to be able to get your money back if that happens.

There's a big variance between accepting things on "blind faith and mutual trust" and expecting someone to not act like a total savage with your rental until. It's not just those 2 ends of the spectrum. But you can keep acting like it's that simple if you want, no matter how wrong you are.
I will and I'm not.
 

Frankfooter

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Rent increases are not allowed to be larger for corporate landlords. And actually, for 2021, rent increases not requiring LTB approval were frozen due to covid. Corporate landlords are in no better shape when it comes to waiting for a hearing, although they are likely better able to withstand their tenants paying no or reduced amounts of rent.
That's the point, the LTB is holding rent increase hearings over mom and pop landlords trying to evict non paying tenants.
Check the CBC story.

Its Ford policy.
 

Bobzilla

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Bobzilla

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That's the point, the LTB is holding rent increase hearings over mom and pop landlords trying to evict non paying tenants.
Check the CBC story.

Its Ford policy.
Not going to defend the LTB too hard, because they've really screwed up what should have been a good alternative to the old method of using the Ontario Superior Court for evictions, which was prohibitively expensive and cumbersome, but the article is dated Nov 8/22 & states that from now until the end of this year, they're going to concentrate on AGIs over hearings for unpaid rent. The likely reason for this is that, if they did the reverse, there would probably be a flood of orders signed in late November/early December, which would then culminate in evictions around the xmas/new year's period. I'm not saying that's a bad thing; if tenants owe & refuse to pay, it's the remedy available to landlords. But our entire civil legal system (of which this is a part) shuts down at a point in December because of the holidays, and there's a loosely defined premise that people shouldn't lose their homes around xmas.

Now personally, I don't give a shit about xmas, but many people still do, and I suspect that a return to normalcy is being put off to the new year for this reason. I also find that the reasoning that it benefits corporate landlords is somewhat specious; after all, an independent landlord is free to apply for an AGI providing they've got the documents to back it up. This decision mainly benefits tenants who owe money, giving them an additional period before having to deal with the consequences of that. If the LTB decided to expedite the backlog of hearings, the headline in the article would be "LTB to allow christmas evictions", or something similar. This is obviously the lesser of two evils, and a continuation of the system that favours the tenants' rights.
 
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Bobzilla

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I have a question my landlord says hes wanting a 5% increase. I dont even want him increasing it at all lol what can I say if hes illegally asking for the going rate without making a problem for me?
You actually expect me to help you? lmao.
 

Frankfooter

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Not going to defend the LTB too hard, because they've really screwed up what should have been a good alternative to the old method of using the Ontario Superior Court for evictions, which was prohibitively expensive and cumbersome, but the article is dated Nov 8/22 & states that from now until the end of this year, they're going to concentrate on AGIs over hearings for unpaid rent. The likely reason for this is that, if they did the reverse, there would probably be a flood of orders signed in late November/early December, which would then culminate in evictions around the xmas/new year's period. I'm not saying that's a bad thing; if tenants owe & refuse to pay, it's the remedy available to landlords. But our entire civil legal system (of which this is a part) shuts down at a point in December because of the holidays, and there's a loosely defined premise that people shouldn't lose their homes around xmas.

Now personally, I don't give a shit about xmas, but many people still do, and I suspect that a return to normalcy is being put off to the new year for this reason. I also find that the reasoning that it benefits corporate landlords is somewhat specious; after all, an independent landlord is free to apply for an AGI providing they've got the documents to back it up. This decision mainly benefits tenants who owe money, giving them an additional period before having to deal with the consequences of that. If the LTB decided to expedite the backlog of hearings, the headline in the article would be "LTB to allow christmas evictions", or something similar. This is obviously the lesser of two evils, and a continuation of the system that favours the tenants' rights.
This has been going on for a couple of years now, from what I've heard. LTB hearings for corporate rent increases get booked while small time eviction notice hearings for rent default are refused, like the CBC story noted with the woman with the autistic kid who had 3 requests for an eviction hearing refused until CBC's article came out.
 

Bobzilla

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This has been going on for a couple of years now, from what I've heard. LTB hearings for corporate rent increases get booked while small time eviction notice hearings for rent default are refused, like the CBC story noted with the woman with the autistic kid who had 3 requests for an eviction hearing refused until CBC's article came out.
The hearings system has had major backlogs particularly in Toronto going back over a decade. I've been out of my previous job for 10 years & in my last 3 or so years there no longer handled landlord/tenant matters, and even back then, it took about a year to get a hearing in Toronto, less time in smaller communities. Now, it's about a year in smaller communities.

However, you can't equate AGI hearings with eviction hearings; all levels of government compartmentalize themselves. The people hearing the AGI cases are not necessarily the same people hearing the eviction cases. In fact, I would be shocked if they were.

I don't know specifically about the woman you're referencing, but the vast majority of landlords have no idea how to present a case in court with documents and facts to back up their assertions of hardship, instead showing up unprepared, and when they get reamed by the adjudicator, they just rail against the Board when, as I posted earlier in this thread, the landlord is their own worst enemy. It's not Judge Judy; the Board issues orders that are equivalent to Small Claims Court judgments, so there is a standard that must be met to be successful. Unfortunately, most landlords don't understand that.
 
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From the article: "CBC News is not revealing Marco's last name because he works as a commission-based mortgage specialist and fears it would affect his employment."

LOL, so rather than give you Marco's last name, we'll post a photo of him and tell his line of work.

Reminds me of an episode of the Simpsons. "To protect the man's identity, we'll call him Homer S. ... Oh, wait, that's too obvious. We'll call him H. Simpson."
LOL!
....or Norm Macdonald talking about his friend standing up and telling his story at an Alcoholic's Anonymous meeting,

'I'll give you my first name and the first letter of my last name, and you can memorize my face,
other than that I'd like to keep this strictly anonymous."
 
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