Teachers strike/walkout/protest

[Fun For All]

I am tired of teachers complaining about how tough they have it.

Here’s an idea, let’s eliminate the Teachers Union and let the teacher decide if they want to continue…the ones that do can have their career at the current conditions, the ones that don’t can collect their severance at the door and move on.

Let’s encourage more private schools and more stay at home schooling…

 

[squeezer]

I am tired of teachers complaining about how tough they have it.

Here’s an idea, let’s eliminate the Teachers Union and let the teacher decide if they want to continue…the ones that do can have their career at the current conditions, the ones that don’t can collect their severance at the door and move on.

Let’s encourage more private schools and more stay at home schooling…

These are not "teachers". These folks are making peanuts and do not get the perks teachers do.

 

[Valcazar]

Let’s encourage more private schools and more stay at home schooling…

Why?

 

[jimieboe]

These are not "teachers". These folks are making peanuts and do not get the perks teachers do.

Paid peanuts...they are EA's and janitors....with all do reapect they make good money with no education and full benefits...most are stay at home moms working 6/hrs a day @25/hr...not bad gig if u ask me...time to drop and pick up kids...if they dont like it go elsewhere...freedom has a cost.

 

[richaceg]

These are not "teachers". These folks are making peanuts and do not get the perks teachers do.

they still have perks...do they work during march break, xmas break and summer break? i wish i get to have those perks...

 

[xix]

So who is really on strike here?

Paid peanuts...they are EA's and janitors....with all do reapect they make good money with no education and full benefits...most are stay at home moms working 6/hrs a day @25/hr...not bad gig if u ask me...time to drop and pick up kids...if they dont like it go elsewhere...freedom has a cost.

I didn't know that Janitors can be with the same union as teachers.
I either Union is low on membership or they want more $$$.

 

[squeezer]

Paid peanuts...they are EA's and janitors....with all do reapect they make good money with no education and full benefits...most are stay at home moms working 6/hrs a day @25/hr...not bad gig if u ask me...time to drop and pick up kids...if they dont like it go elsewhere...freedom has a cost.

I guess working with kids with mental issues is a piece of cake.

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they still have perks...do they work during march break, xmas break and summer break? i wish i get to have those perks...

Um, they do not get paid for March break and the only way they get paid for the summer is EI.

Do you get paid for Xmas and other stat holidays?? If not, you can come work for me, I pay stat holidays and I will even start you off with a 3 week vacay.

 

[Uncharted]

So these janitors and such get a starting salary, because that is what the union is quoting. A starting salary of 39,000 a year for 9.75 months work. Full benefits, pension, ridiculous amount of sick days, and vacation days on top of that.

The average private IT professional, with a degree, starts at $35,000 a year for 12 months work. No benefits beyond what the labor laws provide, no pension, no sick days.
And this no skilled Janitor wants this IT professional to pay for him getting even more benefits and pay that the IT professional does not get?

Where do these idiots get the nerve?

 

[L8Guy]

Besides the fact that these are not teachers (except for some early childhood etc. personnel), their starting demands were for a 12% raise each year for 4 years. So they want their pay to go from $40 g's a year to $60 g's a year. Isn't that special !

Give them what they want or they'll go on strike and let the Parents of school kids that are locked out either maybe lose their jobs or pay for child care or .... they don't care, just give in to their demands.

 

[Uncharted]

During the first 4 months of the pandemic, the teachers were not working at all. Not even online classes had started a that point, but they were still getting full pay, benefits, and raises. For sitting at home doing nothing. All the while everybody else was getting laid off. Losing benefits, and barely getting CERB.

That was their fucking wage bonus right there.

Public sector collective bargaining has never been balanced. It has always been heavily weighted in favor of the public sector unions. I am the employer of these public sector workers, and not only do I never get a say in the contract. I'm still paying the same amount for their services when they are on strike.

This imbalance does not exist in Private sector collective bargaining, and as is demonstrated, with much less strikes in the private sector. Because both sides have an equal amount to lose from it.

Public Sector Collective bargaining needs to be changed. And maybe this action by the Government will be the catalyst for it.

 

[JackBurton]

So these janitors and such get a starting salary, because that is what the union is quoting. A starting salary of 39,000 a year for 9.75 months work. Full benefits, pension, ridiculous amount of sick days, and vacation days on top of that.

The average private IT professional, with a degree, starts at $35,000 a year for 12 months work. No benefits beyond what the labor laws provide, no pension, no sick days.
And this no skilled Janitor wants this IT professional to pay for him getting even more benefits and pay that the IT professional does not get?

Where do these idiots get the nerve?

Yeah but in IT you can sit on your lazy ass and pretend to work. Janitors and such have a physically demanding job, something a coder couldn’t understand.

 

[Uncharted]

Yeah but in IT you can sit on your lazy ass and pretend to work. Janitors and such have a physically demanding job, something a coder couldn’t understand.

You try lifting 100 lb servers into the top slot of a 6 foot rack, and tell me how physically demanding it is.
Or constantly crawling under desks to test and replace bad network cables.
I've seen what Janitors do. They don't deserve to be making more than an IT person. Especially at the expense of that IT person.

 

[JackBurton]

You try lifting 100 lb servers into the top slot of a 6 foot rack, and tell me how physically demanding it is.
Or constantly crawling under desks to test and replace bad network cables.
I've seen what Janitors do. They don't deserve to be making more than an IT person. Especially at the expense of that IT person.

Sorry dude, I don’t buy it. All the IT people I know are lazy AF and overcharge for negligible work.

 

[Darts]

The son (an Ivy League grad) of a friend went to the PRC to teach ESL.

He came back with two major observations.
1) Chinese teachers want to teach.
2) Chinese students want to learn.

He also said there are 20 (maybe more now) PRC universities that are equivalent to or better than MIT.

 

[JohnLarue]

Besides the fact that these are not teachers (except for some early childhood etc. personnel), their starting demands were for a 12% raise each year for 4 years. So they want their pay to go from $40 g's a year to $60 g's a year. Isn't that special !

Give them what they want or they'll go on strike and let the Parents of school kids that are locked out either maybe lose their jobs or pay for child care or .... they don't care, just give in to their demands.

a 12% raise each year for 4 years.?????
that is just ridiculous

meanwhile
1. the average income in Ontario decreased 5.25% 2020 to 2021 -
Average Income in Canada 2022: Does Your Salary Measure Up? - Insurdinary
2. The province is broke & will be facing much higher interest expenses on the mountain of debt already accumulated to enrich the public sector unions.
Do you want health care or wealthy janitors ? you cannot have both
3. they do not bring any special skill set to the table. - just a threat instead
4. now we have the public sector unions tossing gasoline onto Justin Trudeaus inflation bonfire

a 12% raise each year for 4 years.?????

 

[dirtydaveiii]

You try lifting 100 lb servers into the top slot of a 6 foot rack, and tell me how physically demanding it is.
Or constantly crawling under desks to test and replace bad network cables.
I've seen what Janitors do. They don't deserve to be making more than an IT person. Especially at the expense of that IT person.

Isnt that what Rocky did for training?

 

[somjay]

What's wrong with forced arbitration? When did the nuclear option become the first resort?

 

[dirtydaveiii]

as for these people on strike, GO SUCK A DICK! You have the most powerful union probably on earth, that you signed on to not be able to strike. For the first time in almost 3 years school is back to normal and you pull this shit NOW??? I have no sympathy for these fucks and I am sure I am not in the minority. They have the nerve to picket saying they want to help the children when all it does is helps their wallets and maxed out credit cards.

 

[basketcase]

Paid peanuts...they are EA's and janitors....with all do reapect they make good money with no education and full benefits...most are stay at home moms working 6/hrs a day @25/hr...not bad gig if u ask me...time to drop and pick up kids...if they dont like it go elsewhere...freedom has a cost.

Yes, an average of $39,000 sure sounds like a ton of money


Love when people like the OP are so eager to give their opinion on something when they don't even have the basic facts correct.

 

[basketcase]

What's wrong with forced arbitration? When did the nuclear option become the first resort?

Because that's what cops, firefighters, and the like get. Why give it to other unions.

Ford logic.