In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

basketcase

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No, I say the definition is useless as it makes a good majority of your posts fitting their definition of antisemitism.
Congrats.



Why do you think students should have to go off campus to protest?
They made the choice to target a campus Jewish group over the policies of a foreign country instead of protesting at the nearby Israeli government building.


Its Islamaphobic because you insert the words 'Hamas' and 'terrorist'...
Because Hamas IS a designated terrorist entity and you keep trying to justify them.

Why is agreeing with Canada that Hamas are terrorists racist but your endless condemnation of Israel as terrorists isn't? I'm happy to condemn Ben Gvir as racist and some settlers as terrorists while you won't even admit when Hamas commits or celebrates terror attacks.
 

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Yet you refuse to condemn any Palestinian factions that promote violence and end peace. It's almost like you have a different agenda. :rolleyes:
Unlike you I support peace and back a non-violent, Palestinian movement that aims to end the apartheid struggle.
Also, unlike you, I support equal rights for Palestinians. That includes the right to resist an illegal, apartheid regime.
I'd prefer they went the BDS, non-violent route.
But unlike you, I won't back a colonial, racist, settler movement nor use some racist elitism to try to dictate how they respond to the apartheid, illegal, occupation.

Unlike you, I condemn targeting civilians on both sides and support full investigations into any war crimes committed based on legit, third party human rights organization's reports.

Support BDS and end apartheid.
Stop supporting the violence.

 

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Defending PFLP Terrorists
Rasmea Odeh

Palestine Legal, under its old name “Palestine Solidarity Legal Support,” was on the defense committee for Palestinian terrorist Rasmea Odeh, while she was on trial in the U.S. for immigration fraud.

Odeh was a key military operative [00:02:08] with the PFLP, an internationally designated terrorist organization. Odeh confessed to masterminding a bombing in a Jerusalem supermarket in 1969 that killed two university students. Odeh also attempted to bomb the British consulate the same year.

Odeh was tried and sentenced to life imprisonment by an Israeli court but was released 10 years later in a prisoner swap and then emigrated to the United States. She was convicted of immigration fraud in 2014, as she did not disclose her prior conviction and life sentence on her immigration application. Odeh was eventually stripped of her U.S. citizenship in 2017 and deported to Jordan.

Palestine Legal signed a statement opposing Odeh’s 2013 indictment for immigration fraud, claiming Odeh was an “exemplary citizen.”

Another statement published by Palestine Legal in 2014 claimed Odeh “committed no crime, and is only under attack because she is a Palestinian icon.”

Leila Khaled

In October 2020, Palestine Legal sent a letter to the Zoom digital video conferencing platform, criticizing their refusal to stream several online events featuring Leila Khaled.

Zoom cited Khaled’s “reported affiliation or membership in a U.S. designated foreign terrorist organization” a likely violation of Zoom’s Terms of Service.

Khaled was a leading member of the PFLP and participated in the hijacking of TWA Flight 840 in 1969 and El Al Flight 219 in 1970. As of 2017, she was a member of PFLP's Political Bureau.

Khaled has advocated [00:36:07] for the use of children in terror activities and said that the second intifada failed because it was not violent enough.

Palestine Legal accused Zoom of “a dangerous attack on free speech and academic freedom” and of deciding “to censor discussion of Palestinian freedom.” The letter also claimed that Khaled “did not plan to represent the PFLP” at the events.

Palestine Legal - Canary Mission


Palestine Legal
Overview
Palestine Legal is an independent legal organization that provides advice and support to anti-Israel activists.
The group provides extensive assistance to anti-Israel student activist groups such as Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and IfNotNow (INN).
Palestine Legal has provided legal defense to multiple university students embroiled in controversies over anti-Semitic or violent content posted online, including Yasmeen Mashayekh, Ahmad Daraldik and Nerdeen Kiswani.
In addition, they provided assistance to two convicted terrorists with the internationally designated terrorist organization, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
Palestine Legal works “to protect the right" for activists to engage in Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement initiatives and has reportedly drafted the texts of multiple university campus BDS resolutions.
The group maintains a database of legislation that it claims targets “advocacy for Palestinian rights” and urges activists to contact government officials to campaign against such legislation.
The organization has offices in Chicago, New York City and the San Francisco Bay Area.
Background
Palestine Legal, formerly known as Palestine Solidarity Legal Support, was founded in 2012 by Dima Khalidi.
It was officially launched in 2013 by American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) as part of the Student Speech Working Group in collaboration with the National Lawyers Guild (NLG) and Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR). The Student Speech Working Group’s organizations also included the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) – San Francisco Bay Area and JVP.

Partners and Staff
According to its official website, Palestine Legal works “closely” with several legal organizations known for their anti-Israel stance, includingCCR and NLG, to provide legal support to anti-Israel activists.

Palestine Legal also lists as its “partners” CAIR and the U.S. Campaign For Palestinian Rights (USCPR), a coalition of American-based anti-Israel organizations that lobbies the U.S. Congress to adopt anti-Israel legislation and end government support for Israel.
Palestine Legal’s staff features an array of longtime anti-Israel activists:

Funding
Palestine Legal states that it is a “fiscally sponsored project” of Tides.

The group also receives funding from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (RBF), which has a history of supporting anti-Jewish and anti-Israel causes, including BDS campaigns.
As of June 2021, anti-Israel activist Roger Waters was a major donor to Palestine Legal.
Dismissing Anti-Semitism
Palestine Legal campaigns against the adoption of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism and its implementation in the U.S., claiming that the definition is “designed to silence advocacy for Palestinian freedom.”
The U.S. State Department adopted the IHRA’s working definition of anti-Semitism in 2016. Twenty-eight European countries, as well as Canada, Australia, Israel and Argentina, have also adopted the definition.
Several examples of anti-Semitism given in the IHRA definition relate to Israel. At the same time, the definition states: “criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.”
Palestine Legal tracks proposed legislation across the U.S. that seeks to adopt the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, re-framing it as “Legislation targeting advocacy for Palestinian rights.”

Anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S. “more than doubled” during OGW and its aftermath, compared to the same time period in 2020, according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
Alongside that, Palestine Legal provides legal support to anti-Israel activists to help whitewash, downplay or dismiss their anti-Semitic and violent rhetoric posted to social media by portraying their remarks as being merely “protected speech critical of Israel.”
Providing Legal Support to Anti-Israel Activists
Palestine Legal has provided significant legal support for individuals and groups under fire from accusations of anti-Semitism, making threats of violence and engaging in discriminatory activity.
  • In 2020, Palestine Legal provided support for SJP and Within Our Lifetime (WOL) leader Nerdeen Kiswani, after a video she posted went viral in which she threatened to set a man’s Israel Defense Forces (IDF) sweatshirt on fire. Palestine Legal said Kiswani was the target of a “Zionist smear campaign” for her “jest.” Palestine Legal states that it has “proudly supported” Kiswani since 2014.
  • In December 2020, Palestine Legal provided support for Ahmad Daraldik, an SJP activist at Florida State University (FSU) who was at the center of a controversy following the exposure of Daraldik’s anti-Semitic social media posts, such as “stupid jew thinks he is cool.” Palestine Legal together with CAIR-Florida sent a letter to FSU’s President defending Daraldik and framing his posts as “remarks critical of Israel’s occupation.”
  • In 2019, Palestine Legal and two other groups sent a joint letter to a library in New Jersey that had canceled a JVP children’s book reading of “P is for Palestine” by Golbarg Bashi. The book was surrounded by controversy for its reported glorification of “intifada.”

    The book states [00:01:10]: “I is for Intifada. Intifada is Arabic for rising up for what is right, whether you are a kid or a grownup.”

    The term “intifada” has carried the connotation of violence, since the early 2000’s.

    Palestine Legal’s letter asked the library to reschedule the event and apologize to JVP and Bashi. The library eventually allowed the event to go ahead.
  • In 2018, Palestine Legal advised a University of Michigan (UM) professor, John Cheney-Lippold, who refused to write a recommendation letter for a student who was going to study in Israel, citing his support for BDS.

    UM disciplined Cheney-Lippold with a number of sanctions and issued a letter stating his conduct had “fallen far short” of the University’s expectations for how “faculty interact with and treat students,” that Lippold’s “behavior in this circumstance was inappropriate and will not be tolerated” and that “a student's merit should be your primary guide for determining how and whether to provide a letter of recommendation.”
  • In April 2017, Palestine Legal filed a lawsuit on behalf of SJP, after Fordham University (Fordham) rejected SJP’s request to create a campus chapter. Fordham’s dean explained that he believed SJP would create “polarization” on campus that would “run contrary to the mission and values” embraced at Fordham.
In August 2019, a New York court mandated that Fordham recognize SJP as an official club. Fordham, however, successfully appealed the ruling and in December, 2020, the New York State Supreme Court Appellate Division overturned the lower court’s decision.
AIPAC’s mission, as stated on their website, is to “strengthen, protect and promote the U.S.-Israel relationship in ways that enhance the security of the United States and Israel.”
  • In March 2015, Palestine Legal defended an SJP chapter at New York University (NYU), after its members slipped fake eviction notices under the doors of over 2,000 students living in two student residence halls.The group has also published a “Mock Eviction Actions Preparation Checklist” to guide students on how to prepare, promote and carry out “mock eviction actions” on college campuses.
  • In September 2013, Palestine Legal and CCR published a “Legal and Tactical Guide” for “Palestinian Human Rights Advocacy in the U.S.” The guide advised students on staging anti-Israel mock checkpoints, protests, marches and demonstrations.
Defending Yasmeen Mashayekh
In 2021, Palestine Legal defended Yasmeen Mashayekh, a student who was [00:11:08] then embroiled in a national controversy over anti-Semitism she spread on social media that year.
In October 2021, Mashayekh was listed as the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) Senator for University of Southern California (USC)’s Viterbi School of Engineering (Viterbi). In May 2021, she tweeted: “I want to f**king kill every motherf**king Zionist.” She also tweeted: “yel3an el yahood [curse the Jews].”
Mashayekh also spread violent hatred of Israeli Jews, called for the destruction of Israel and America, expressed support for Hamas and glorified terrorists.
Mashayekh was condemned after Canary Mission exposed her anti-Semitic tweets.
Palestine Legal claimed Mashayekh was targeted “for speaking out for Palestinian rights.”
In a letter to the editor at the Los Angeles Times, Zoha Khalili, writing as staff attorney at Palestine Legal, portrayed Mashayekh’s comments as being allegedly “political speech disagreeing with the ideology behind the Israeli government’s expansionist violence.”
Mashayekh’s name was reportedly removed from a post on the school’s website celebrating women leaders, where she was a graduate student.
After Palestine Legal intervened, Mashayekh’s profile was restored to the site.
 

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Unlike you I support peace and back a non-violent, Palestinian movement that aims to end the apartheid struggle.
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Except BDS doesn't advocate an end to the conflict. That would require a peace deal that both Israelis and Palestinians accept.

It's funny that you say you prefer a peaceful solution while continually attempting to whitewash Hamas despite them being a racist fundamentalist religious group that openly rejects peace and plans attacks on civilians.

Hell, you even refuse to admit that Palestinians throwing rocks, firebombs, or shoot at civilian vehicles are terrorists.
 

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Palestine Legal - Canary Mission
Canary Mission is an Israeli propaganda outfit dedicated to trying to get students banned for protesting apartheid.

The UN, Amensty and most of the world think you, Israel and Canary Mission are spreading racist disinformation.

Israel/Palestine: UN experts call on governments to resume funding for six Palestinian CSOs designated by Israel as ‘terrorist organisations’
 

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No, this is propaganda.
Its everyone's moral duty to stand up and protest against the evils of apartheid.
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At least you admit your apartheid claims are just propaganda in your attempts to justify overt antisemitism.

These racists decided to protest against an Jewish group at an American campus over a foreign country that they students have zero influence over simply because those students are the same religion as the majority in that country. It's just as racist as if people protested out Iranian/Persian owned businesses in Canada over Iran's human rights abuses.
 

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Canary Mission is an Israeli propaganda outfit dedicated to trying to get students banned for protesting apartheid.

The UN, Amensty and most of the world think you, Israel and Canary Mission are spreading racist disinformation.

Israel/Palestine: UN experts call on governments to resume funding for six Palestinian CSOs designated by Israel as ‘terrorist organisations’

here is Franky defending Hamas claiming that it is "islamophobic" to call them a terrorist organizaton


 

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At least you admit your apartheid claims are just propaganda in your attempts to justify overt antisemitism.
You're losing it.
Students are protesting apartheid on campus.
40% of US Jews think Israel is apartheid.

These racists decided to protest against an Jewish group at an American campus over a foreign country that they students have zero influence over simply because those students are the same religion as the majority in that country. It's just as racist as if people protested out Iranian/Persian owned businesses in Canada over Iran's human rights abuses.
That's an antisemitic trope, claiming that protesting apartheid policy is an attack on the entire people.
Its racist, basketcase, stop it.

But at least you aren't alone.
 

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Discussing documented facts. The members of the terrorist entity PFLP have been heavily involved in DCIP.
The UN and Amnesty requested 'facts' for the Israeli claims.
None were given.
There are no facts to defend these charges, Israel is practicing apartheid and using the term 'terrorist' for racist, political goals.
Just as you do.

 

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You're losing it.
Students are protesting apartheid on campus.
By targeting a campus Jewish group.
That is explicitly blaming Jews on campus for your issues with Israel's policies.

That is textbook racism and you know it but you're so far down the racism rabbit hole you try to defend it.

But you can prove the unbiasedness of your views by helping organize a student protest of the Persian Student's association over Iran's human rights abuses. Of course you wouldn't because that would be racist.

It's pretty pathetic that you call out antisemitic tropes by the right while peddling the same racist trash yourself.
 

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No, I don't care for your archaic views.
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Peace is an archaic view? Who knew?

BDS refuses to endorse a One State peace, a Two State peace, a Federalized state peace, an any other peace.

Meanwhile no Palestinian leaders even hint at accepting equal rights with Jews (with Hamas and other factions openly rejecting even the thought of it) and the Palestinian people reject the concept far more than they oppose a Two State peace. Just more of your racist elitism, telling the Palestinians what they should want simply because you think it will harm the regions Jews even more.

p.s. It seems you've run away from the discussion of terrorism. Are you afraid that there is no moral way for you to keep accusing Israelis of terrorism while claiming it's racist to criticize Palestinians for doing similar things?


p.p.s. Fucking pathetic that you quote a UN subcommittee report (requested by the rights abusers council) while ignoring that the UN says the ONLY path forward is a negotiated Two State peace.
 

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The UN and Amnesty requested 'facts' for the Israeli claims.
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They're widely published.



But I'm sure you'll just claim that those "Jewish organizations" made up all the listed details.
 

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By targeting a campus Jewish group.
That is explicitly blaming Jews on campus for your issues with Israel's policies.
They were targeting that group for bringing in Israeli speakers who support apartheid.
That is the morally correct thing to do.

Saying its 'explicitly blaming Jews' is an antisemitic trope when 40% of US Jews say Israel is apartheid.

There should be no problem with protesting those supporting apartheid.
 

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They're widely published.



But I'm sure you'll just claim that those "Jewish organizations" made up all the listed details.
NGO Monitor is an Israeli propaganda wing.
Tablet mag? That's some kind of rump supporting, Israeli right wing thing, isn't it?

Clearly you can't tell bullshit propaganda from legit sources like Amnesty, HRW and credible news.
 

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Peace is an archaic view? Who knew?

BDS refuses to endorse a One State peace, a Two State peace, a Federalized state peace, an any other peace.
So you're stuck in the past and still want to flog dead horses?
Why should I care?

BDS supports ending apartheid through peaceful sanctions and boycotts.
That's the morally correct thing to do.

p.p.s. Fucking pathetic that you quote a UN subcommittee report (requested by the rights abusers council) while ignoring that the UN says the ONLY path forward is a negotiated Two State peace.
You should read that report.
The do not suggest the two state solution at all.
That train left the station years ago.
 
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