So you are arguing that NATO requiring 0% of its forces to fight 20% of Russia's forces to a standstill proves NATO has no power?
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His "argument" is that Ukraine is a NATO proxy force and that Russia has fought Ukraine to a standstill with only 20% of the Russian army and is biding its time before it unleashes the other 80% and crushes all before it.
Notty doesn't actually read or watch much military analysis.
Yes, you are correct, check how many rockets are in the pod.
ATACMS pods contain 1 rocket.
M31 pods contain 6.
Yes, nonsense describes your idea that Putin should have a say in what organizations Ukraine joins.
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Gee. My maps show this big blue sections through the middle of the country. Wonder what that means..You really don't understand the geography of Ukraine. After Donbass the center is wide open country until Kiev. Once the battle of Donbas is concluded Ukraine will have very little left to defend it.
The Budapest memorandum was invalidated by Ukraine alignment with NATO and end of its neutral status.
Show me a smidgen of evidence. All he did was tell Americans to get out and leveled threats at Russia. That is utterly pathetic.
Its more like you are surrounded by an armed gang with your wife. They demand you hand over your wallet in return for letting you both leave safely. And you decided to fight and both get beaten to piss and raped. But then you say. Well I didn't back down. !!!
I didn't say they have no power, they have a lot less power then they claim. But yes you are correct NATO is fighting Ukrainians are doing the dying. That is their role in this war. To get fed into the meat grinder.
yes Russia lost in Afghanistan after the US started pouring aid into the country. USA and NATO lost it ALL ON THEIR OWN.
So how can you tell that one was equipped with the single rocket pod? It has a cover on the back.
More than "a say".
He wanted NATO to rewrite their charter for him.
Ukraine didn't join NATO.
Putin's argument was that since there was a coup, he hadn't signed anything with the new state, so it no longer applied.
We've been over this, notty.
You have preemptively decided that all the negotiations were invalid.
Total capitulation to everything Russia demanded was the only way to stop the war, according to you, and since Biden wouldn't do that, Putin had no choice but to go to war.
I do appreciate that you have decided to characterize Putin and Russia as the armed criminal gang in this situation.
the were a NATO PFP member
NO one says there needs to be TOTAL CAPTULATION. There was no discussion, basically FUCK OFF.
All nations interact like armed criminal gangs. Why do you think every nation spends BILLIONS ensuring we have the capacity to kill another nations people.
Given that Russia intends to cancel Ukrainian sovereignty and democracy, what do you suggest Ukraine does, Notty?
Also the clear evidence that Russia is committing massive war crimes on Ukrainian soil, including random and also organized killings and abductions, including child abductions on a mass, wholesale level.
And given the fact that direct NATO involvement in fighting would trigger World War 3, is this really your preferred option?
There's a reason why you're isolated on the board and that reason is that your opinions are silly.
It's news to me that Ukraine was non neutral or aligned with NATO. Isn't it a fact that Ukraine was kept out of both NATO and the EU, largely to placate Russia?
There was an effin NATO training base in Ukraine. I guess it shows how clueless you really are.
