Toronto Escorts

Growing Number of Ontario Residents Plan to Move Out of Province

Pleasure Hound

Well-known member
Dec 8, 2021
3,295
2,296
113
After someone told me the price of a house in Calgary I looked into it.
It’s a lot cheaper but so was the hourly wage for my comparable employment there. Only viable option to me is If you can sell your place here and buy something elsewhere with no mortgage and pocket some cash to live off of. Otherwise it’s a case of same shit different pile.
Maybe when I retire?
At least you CAN retire.....
 

jesse_b

Active member
Jul 11, 2022
66
189
33
Two of my coworkers relocated to Halifax and Calgary after pandemic. One considering Edmonton. I heard sun sets there at 10:30pm.
 

lomotil

Well-known member
Mar 14, 2004
6,364
1,236
113
Oblivion
You've heard about the massive shortages of nurses, support staff etc. in our ER depts. This is one of the reasons why. They have fled the province. Furthermore, some of our hospitals have still not lifted their mandatory vaccination requirements for workers which is colossally stupid policy at this point. We are in crisis mode.
They fled the province and where did they go ? Actually, I think they are still here, some nurses have quit, taken early retirement or gone into private nursing. All provinces are reporting shortage, in fact so is the US. The Ontario government is fast tracking the licensing of the foreign trained nurses out of dire necessity.
Quebec and Alberta are reporting severe nursing shortages. The Alberta “advantage “ is gone and the province is experiencing an exodus of young Albertans.
The pandemic is heralding a major game changer. Pre- pandemic the Trudeau government was poised to bring in a record amount of immigrants and some have already entered primarily college and university educated Indians, many IT engineers among them and Philipino caregivers amd medical technicians. Foreign students graduating from government colleges and universities have been offered PR leading to citizenship.
Industry is clamouring for immigration to fill many job vacancies.
 

rhuarc29

Well-known member
Apr 15, 2009
9,637
1,240
113
People don't pay enough attention to that. I read this the other day. It's a big problem.
Considering a huge chunk of the population is living beyond its means with their own personal finances, I'm not surprised they're also not paying attention to the government doing the same.

I've been crying foul for years. We had finally leveled out after the Great Recession and had the chance to pay back what we had borrowed to survive that. That's what we should have done: paid for the previous disaster during the good times (2015 - 2019). Instead, we borrowed more during the good times, which means not only did we not pay off the last disaster, but we were in a horrible position to stave off the current disaster. That's what electing a fiscally irresponsible government gets you, folks. Expect things to get worse.

We need another Chretien to come in and fix the situation, or we're in for a rough ride.
 

johnd5050

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2012
2,782
3,532
113
It's called "supply and demand." It's simple economics coupled with the fact that Toronto is a very desirable place to live. That's what drives housing prices. Do you actually think that if there were a million vacant homes in Toronto, the prices would be anywhere close to what they are?

Trudeau wants to increase immigration to 1 million people a year. There's no way the building sector can keep up. This will forever guarantee high rents and housing prices.

If Ontario's too expensive for you, you have the option to move to another province or country. There's lots of more affordable ones.
Call it anything you wish, I call it greed. Squeeze every drop of blood out of a living soul. Capitalism at its best.
 

onomatopoeia

Bzzzzz.......Doink
Jul 3, 2020
20,243
16,764
113
Cabbagetown
Considering a huge chunk of the population is living beyond its means with their own personal finances, I'm not surprised they're also not paying attention to the government doing the same.

I've been crying foul for years. We had finally leveled out after the Great Recession and had the chance to pay back what we had borrowed to survive that. That's what we should have done: paid for the previous disaster during the good times (2015 - 2019). Instead, we borrowed more during the good times, which means not only did we not pay off the last disaster, but we were in a horrible position to stave off the current disaster. That's what electing a fiscally irresponsible government gets you, folks. Expect things to get worse.

We need another Chretien to come in and fix the situation, or we're in for a rough ride.
Fall of the Joe Clark government

"... the 1979 budget he proposed was designed to curb inflation by slowing economic activity. The budget also proposed a 4-cent per litre (18-cent per gallon) tax on gasoline in order to reduce the budgetary deficit. Finance Minister John Crosbie touted the budget as "short term pain for long term gain".

Joe Clark was Prime Minister for nine months in 1979/80. His minority government fell after a vote of non-confidence about the proposed Federal budget for 1980.

Canada's current policy is to try to increase population quickly, so the per capita budget deficit will rise more slowly than the total amount.
 

rhuarc29

Well-known member
Apr 15, 2009
9,637
1,240
113
Fall of the Joe Clark government

"... the 1979 budget he proposed was designed to curb inflation by slowing economic activity. The budget also proposed a 4-cent per litre (18-cent per gallon) tax on gasoline in order to reduce the budgetary deficit. Finance Minister John Crosbie touted the budget as "short term pain for long term gain".

Joe Clark was Prime Minister for nine months in 1979/80. His minority government fell after a vote of non confidence about the proposed 1980 Federal budget.

Canada's current policy is to try to increase population quickly, so the per capita budget deficit will rise more slowly than the total amount.
Yeah, increase the population quickly despite having nowhere to put them (housing costs already through the roof!). It's a foolish plan that will go disastrously wrong. Already has, to some degree.
 

VIPhunter

Well-known member
Jan 17, 2012
1,303
331
83
Two of my coworkers relocated to Halifax and Calgary after pandemic. One considering Edmonton. I heard sun sets there at 10:30pm.
Um, yeah, the sun sets at 10:30 in the summer.

Winter in Edmonton is a whole other shitty story.
 

SammyS

Well-known member
Dec 2, 2013
5,170
1,959
113
People don't pay enough attention to that. I read this the other day. It's a big problem.

The burden of government debt falls on Canadian families today and in the future. Like households, governments must pay interest on their debt, which is ultimately paid by Canadians in the form of taxes. Servicing the debt also diverts resources away from services such as health care and education.

Federal debt interest costs alone will hit a projected $26.9 billion (or $696 per person) in 2022/23 and increase to $42.9 billion (or $1,065 per person) by 2026/27. On aggregate, interest payments on federal debt will cost Canadian taxpayers roughly $180 billion during that period.

As the Bank of Canada raises interest rates, all else equal, government debt interest costs also rise. The federal budget does bake some interest rate hikes into the fiscal plan, as private-sector forecasters were anticipating rates to increase gradually over time. However, if for example the effective interest rate on government debt rose one percentage point higher than forecasted, annual interest costs on federal debt would jump from $42.9 billion to $52.2 billion by 2026/27, an increase of $9.3 billion in a single fiscal year.
^^^^^^^^^^
"It's a big problem"
I don't agree with statement. Debt is an issue and we have to keep it in check but look at the big picture.

According to a Bloomsberg article: Debt-to-GDP is seen falling (federally) to 41.5% of output by 2026, from 46.5% -- also a considerable improvement from the fiscal update.

Debt to GDP Ratio by Country 2022
What countries have the largest debt in the world? Here is a list of the top ten countries with the most national debt:

  1. Japan (National Debt: ¥1,028 trillion ($9.087 trillion USD))
  2. Greece (National Debt: €332.6 billion ($379 billion US))
  3. Portugal (National Debt: €232 billion ($264 billion US))
  4. Italy (National Debt: €2.17 trillion ($2.48 trillion US))
  5. Bhutan (National Debt: $2.33 billion (USD))
  6. Cyprus (National Debt: €18.95 billion ($21.64 billion USD))
  7. Belgium (National Debt: €399.5 billion ($456.18 billion USD))
  8. United States of America (National Debt: $19.23 trillion (USD))
  9. Spain (National Debt: €1.09 trillion ($1.24 USD))
  10. Singapore (National Debt: $350 billion ($254 billion US))
Canada’s national debt is currently at 83.81% of its GDP. Canada’s national debt currently sits at about $1.2 trillion CAD ($925 billion USD). Canada experienced a gradual decrease in debt after the 1990s until 2010 when the debt began increasing again.
 
  • Like
Reactions: poker

John Wick

Baba Yaga
Oct 25, 2019
2,276
2,500
113
Two of my coworkers relocated to Halifax and Calgary after pandemic. One considering Edmonton. I heard sun sets there at 10:30pm.
True, but it snows in July
 

SammyS

Well-known member
Dec 2, 2013
5,170
1,959
113
Canada's current policy is to try to increase population quickly, so the per capita budget deficit will rise more slowly than the total amount.
^^^^^^^^^^
That's a really stupid comment!!!
 

wasabi almond

Member
Jul 17, 2022
35
17
8
81
We need another Chretien to come in and fix the situation, or we're in for a rough ride.
... we do and he won't be a Liberal. Preston Manning Reform speeches in parliament laid the table for Paul Martin's
chopping block. Just an opine.
wa
 

lomotil

Well-known member
Mar 14, 2004
6,364
1,236
113
Oblivion
Um, yeah, the sun sets at 10:30 in the summer.

Winter in Edmonton is a whole other shitty story.
Young Albertans are leaving that province which is now a “ have not province “. Boom and bust, the boom was sustained for about a generation and now the bust is lingering and lingering. Alberta is in worse shape than Ontario for job prospect but like every else they desperately need nurses and medical support staff.
 

MadGeek

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2011
738
637
93
You've heard about the massive shortages of nurses, support staff etc. in our ER depts.
The nursing shortage and other ER staffing shortages are more down to burnout and shit working conditions. All of the gals I went to high school with and college that went into nursing all look they have been steam rolled and have aged terribly from pre-pandemic to post-pandemic. Those 60 to 80 hour work weeks week-in, week-out have taken a toll. Cancelled vacations etc... don't help either and the 10's of thousands in over-time eventually stop being an attraction too.

The attrition rate in the 6 to 15 year mark is also pretty insane. That's the pool of nurses you expect to move into leadership roles in a unit and their leaving in droves, which is pushing more pressure on the 15+ group increasing the burnout/early retirement in that group. I really sorry for the nurses with less than 5 years experience too. They just aren't going to get the mentoring and other knowledge transfer they need to be successful and I don't see many from that group sticking around long-term.
 

rhuarc29

Well-known member
Apr 15, 2009
9,637
1,240
113
According to a Bloomsberg article: Debt-to-GDP is seen falling (federally) to 41.5% of output by 2026, from 46.5% -- also a considerable improvement from the fiscal update.
The problem with these projections is that they're always rosier than reality. Every five-year plan has gradually reducing deficits. But how often do we actually hit that at the end of the 5 years? We haven't. Not in decades.
Why? For multiple reasons:

1) Spending (or tax cuts) buys votes, and governments get itchy in an election year. Some governments even sooner.
2) Projections are based on an ever-expanding GDP. What happens when we inevitably go into recession? Projections get missed.
3) Higher interest rates = higher debt servicing costs.

I'll see you in 2026 when we miss that 41.5% target. (though, hopefully we get a fiscally responsible government before that and it actually happens!)
 
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts