Elle @ Alpha

Ryeguyonthefly

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I met Elle a week or so ago at Alpha. Let me start by saying that, from this clients perspective, there is no better Spa owner than Jess. She always greats you with a smile and hug, offers a drink, and offers friendly discussion. Jess is the best!

Elle and I had been communicating via DMs on Twitter. I love her Twitter presence and she is pretty chill. We set up an appt and I had to cancel. Tried again and we finally connected. She is DDG in my opinion. However, we had no chemistry. She has a reputation as being energetic and sensual. I did not have that experience. Maybe it was me? Still, I won't repeat but I can confirm that she is beautiful so if you think your connection would be better than mine then make your appt now.

On a side note, I dont know that she goes on the schedule at Alpha as I made my appts through her via Twitter.

 

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I also saw Elle a few months back and didn’t really feel any chemistry. tbh I’m socially awkward in real life so it’s probably me.
 
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Ryeguyonthefly

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My alpha experience: the lady at front desk is very nice, offering drink, but those girls working over there seems less energy, some of them normally don’t provide kissing or you have to pay for it and most of them don’t provide body slide, I went there 10 times times, only satisfied with Neille and Selena! The rest experience was boring.
I would tend to agree. My last several trips there have been underwhelming but Jess is always amazing. It used to be a place where the price on the site was all that you paid, now everything seems to be an upcharge and if you dont indulge, your experience will suck. I used to go once a week to 10 days but since the pandemic started, I have been there about 7 or 8 times. Awesome hostess, hot ladies, but lacking in overall experience.
 

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I would tend to agree. My last several trips there have been underwhelming but Jess is always amazing. It used to be a place where the price on the site was all that you paid, now everything seems to be an upcharge and if you dont indulge, your experience will suck. I used to go once a week to 10 days but since the pandemic started, I have been there about 7 or 8 times. Awesome hostess, hot ladies, but lacking in overall experience.
Agreed, the upcharging is worse than its ever been. Also its not a good business move, very short sighted. There are two girls Ive seen at Alpha who never upcharge, Ive seen them both many times happily. If I see someone who tries to upcharge I decline and never book again. There must be guys who pay it though otherwise they wouldn't ask.
 

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I did a drop in at Alpha last year and every girl wanted extra charges so I walked out and haven’t been back. It’s really helped me cut back on the hobby! I ventured to see Duchess at CMJ recently and it was just like pre-Covid times - a true GFE experience like I remember from years gone by. She doesn’t do many shifts but now she is my gold GFE MA standard!
 

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I've seen Elle a few times. Her body is banging and I did have a good time with her. As others have mentioned there is an up charge which I indulged in a couple of times but at that rate I might as well see an SP and get the whole shebang. She is the only lady I've seen at Alpha so I can't comment on upcharges with others.
 
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Saw her last week. Zero chemistry. Probably one of the least GFE experiences I ever had, and that’s using the old Ottawa MA List criteria.
 

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Club Alpha
Hello Everyone,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. This is something that we will work towards mediating internally.
I’m sorry that you gentleman have had this experience and feel this way.
I hope that you know that we value and appreciate our clients.
I also hope that you know that not all the ladies are taking up charging to an extreme.
I strongly recommend that you guys have this conversation about this topic with a hostess before booking either on Twitter, during a walk in or at the bar. We want to encourage those conversations and also make sure that we are not penalizing hostesses who had nothing to do with a bad up charging experience.

Together we can mediate this and any other problem. So please, if you ever have an issue,
come talk to me.

Jessica
Contact me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jessicamaottawa?s=21&t=AglIl9f6v1WT-rWU_P0Rsw
 
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jay1972

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That's what I have started doing on walk ins, as unappetizing a question it is to ask I straight up ask what their upcharges are during the quick meet and greet.
 

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Yep , all the MA place now have that upcharge on everything.

And if you look at the price, it is even cheaper to go see a SP and you have everything.

I start going to CMJ and Alpha for that reasons, no upcharge...

And also, it kill the mood. You there, you know, doing thing and it is, it seem, going well, and suddenly, it stop had you ear "to do that it is 80$"...
And 12-15 minutes later, again, you get the same "call".

And it is done while you are in the session for only one obvious reason, if you are already making out, you obviously increase the change the guy will pay the extra, the small head is thinking at that moments.

If it was done before, you would probably not have booked at all...

And to add to that, when there was no upcharge a few years back, it didn't felt like a "buffet"... It felt much more like a GFE experience...

Great !!

Like, you are with GF or Wife and in the middle of making out, she stop you and says, "for that, you will have to do the dishes for the next month..." lol


I would suggest that if it is the way SPA want to go, each lady should put that in their SPA profile. It is not every one that is comfortable asking that kind of stuff and starting
to go around all the ladies until you find what you are looking for.
First, they do not all answer their Twitter, second, some time they are quite rude answering them, like you are bothering them.
So there is two conflicting message here.
 

Roger"verbal"Kint

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I have stopped going to spas because of the upcharging during a session. First, it kills the mood. Second, it ends up costing way too much compared to a fs sp. Third, it’s a pain in the ass to find out ahead of time what you’re going to get. The upcharge varies by every woman at a spa, it’s not easy to communicate with most of them ahead of time, and a lot are quick to call you a low baller if you question an upcharge. So I’m done with spas.
 

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Folks, upcharging is here to stay. It's like when a child finds out the cookie jar, there's no going back. Important thing is communicate in advance, for me, there're couple of redflags, if I tell them what I'll like in a session, an MA is wishy-washy or says they'll think about it or I'm uncomfortable with that or doesn't respond, I take that as a no. Same applies to walk-ins, ask questions straight up, do not assume anything. Do I always get it right, no. But it is what it is. I am only seeing a few regulars that do not upcharge, but it takes time to find these.
 

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Folks, upcharging is here to stay. It's like when a child finds out the cookie jar, there's no going back. Important thing is communicate in advance, for me, there're couple of redflags, if I tell them what I'll like in a session, an MA is wishy-washy or says they'll think about it or I'm uncomfortable with that or doesn't respond, I take that as a no. Same applies to walk-ins, ask questions straight up, do not assume anything. Do I always get it right, no. But it is what it is. I am only seeing a few regulars that do not upcharge, but it takes time to find these.
There is two thing wrong about your statement:
First, like I and other said before, you do not always get reply, or there are pissed because you ask, or the call you low baller.
Second, I got so many time "yes I do that or offer that" and end up receiving a no once we are both naked. And no, you do not put back your cloth and leave once you are there...
 

medalllione

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There is two thing wrong about your statement:
First, like I and other said before, you do not always get reply, or there are pissed because you ask, or the call you low baller.
Second, I got so many time "yes I do that or offer that" and end up receiving a no once we are both naked. And no, you do not put back your cloth and leave once you are there...
In this industry, there'll always be girls that would lie to get you in the door. SPs do it all the time, MAs are no different. Everytime I go in there, even when I think I got all I need and we've agreed on terms and pricing, I realize I am rolling the dice and things could change. Nothing is guaranteed, sometimes there's no chemistry, mood, hygiene, unconscious bias, physical unattractiveness, lack of sexual sparks, change their mind, etc all factor in. Or an MA is just not interested. I agree, the ones that lie to get you in the door really piss me off, I've experienced this too but I can count with one hand the number of times this has happened. I generally don't see an MA if she doesn't reply, I take that to mean she's not interested.
 
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I saw Elle at Alpha a few months ago and my experience was very similar to others who have posted in this thread. She is an attractive woman with a banging body but within 10 minutes of the session, she tried to upcharge me for basic services (e.g. no extras). That pretty much killed the mood and I ended up finishing the hour long session with 20 minutes left.
 

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This thread has gone off on an upcharging tangent. Mods should merge comments to this thread:

You may be right, but it could also be the crux of what an experience with Elle is like. I mean, if she performed amazing body slides and reviewers detailed that in their comments would you expect the mods to merge? It is a review of how peoples experience went with a provider, that doesnt seem to violate any terb rules. Why censor that?
 
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