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lost-dude

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As someone who is very, very, very new to this whole part of the internet I can't help but have questions on my mind. I hope I can ask them without breaking some unspoken rule.

1. Are you ever worried about legal trouble?

2. Do your friends, families, know about this?

3. Are you guys single or in relationships?

4. How do you manage the expenses? For instance, let's assume a guy with a girlfriend has sex once a week (very modest assumption). To meet the same volume of sex, you'd need to have 52 appointments per year and if each appointment is $200 that is $10,400 per year to have sex.

5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free? I guess everyone gets into this community for a different reason. Some guys have so much money and not much to do with it. Other guys are lonely and too ugly/uninteresting for regular dating so they have to pay. Other guys went through a nasty divorce and think the emotional investment needed to have free-sex isn't worth it so they pay instead. I'm curious as to what your reasons are if you're okay sharing.
 

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1) no
2)some but I don't care
3)doesn't matter I hobbied when I was married, had gf. Single
4) some don't so they go broke like an addiction
5) I hobby because I like variety and no strings I also have a couple of gfs I see regularly
 
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xmontrealer

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FWB - some have all the luck others don't. So it's easier to just pay for it.
Even when I had an FWB (divorced with kids), and though we were seeing each other way back in the mid-1980's, we had a discussion about it. She said that she would feel "cheap and used" if it was only sex, without at least dinner or a movie first. With me paying of course. Old school thinking maybe....
 
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1. No. Cops only care about minors and trafficking. They can't be bothered with consenting adults.

2. No, but I think a few might have some suspicions.

3. I'm single but I'd guess the majority of clients are married.

4. I'll just answer the first part and address the rest below. Figure out how much you can afford to spend on this and stick to it.

4/5. Lol do you really think having a wife or girlfriend is "free"? Ask any married guy here if they have sex once a week or spend less than $10k a year on their wife.

5. I'm older and not interested in anything serious, much less marriage or children. Anyone I could date for "free" would likely be looking for those things. I prefer to have NSA fun with a wide variety of hot women, many of whom are half my age or less.
 

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Even when I had an FWB (divorced with kids), and though we were seeing each other way back in the mid-1980's, we had a discussion about it. She said that she would feel "cheap and used" if it was only sex, without at least dinner or a movie first. With me paying of course. Old school thinking maybe....
This is same a dealing with wifey, just sex is the mantra we are discussing without wasting time.
 
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Cookie.Monster

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This is same a dealing with wifey, just sex is the mantra we are discussing without wasting time.
Remember, investing in a girlfriend is like investing in a rapidly depreciating asset: the more you use her, the less valuable she becomes; firstly, sex becomes less fun because of the familiarity effect and secondly, she looks less hot over time because of age. Now if you factor in her costs, the costs keep inflating exponentially and the disposable cost skyrockets after the marriage date or common-law marriage date. The $10,400 annual fee for steady sex (2SOG per week) with a different girl you always find sexy, is a bargain.

It is only because of societal brainwashing that more men aren’t able to see the enormous advantages of renting. People get it for leasing new cars but the idea of renting women seems to escape most intelligent men, like @lost-dude that started this thread. I see that he is morally conflicted about renting and is looking to us to convince him that buying is the dumbest choice.
 

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Remember, investing in a girlfriend is like investing in a rapidly depreciating asset: the more you use her, the less valuable she becomes; firstly, sex becomes less fun because of the familiarity effect and secondly, she looks less hot over time because of age. Now if you factor in her costs, the costs keep inflating exponentially and the disposable cost skyrockets after the marriage date or common-law marriage date. The $10,400 annual fee for steady sex (2SOG per week) with a different girl you always find sexy, is a bargain.

It is only because of societal brainwashing that more men aren’t able to see the enormous advantages of renting. People get it for leasing new cars but the idea of renting women seems to escape most intelligent men, like @lost-dude that started this thread. I see that he is morally conflicted about renting and is looking to us to convince him that buying is the dumbest choice.
I suppose your math is right for those who do not place value on relationship and partnership.

Not right or wrong, just another lens through which to look at life and make choices

Thanks for sharing your perspective
 

Cookie.Monster

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I suppose your math is right for those who do not place value on relationship and partnership.

Not right or wrong, just another lens through which to look at life and make choices

Thanks for sharing your perspective
Remember - as @Gentlemoan pointed out, we are discussing value of getting regular sex.

Yes, I completely agree that a wife does have other qualities (utility) that offset her escalating operations costs, rapid annual depreciation and balloon disposal payment.
 

jalimon

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"1. Are you ever worried about legal trouble?"

If you keep to reputable indy or agencies do not worry at all.

"2. Do your friends, families, know about this?"

No absolutely not.

"3. Are you guys single or in relationships?"

It's probably a good mix. But that does not matter. What we all need as human being is sex. We live only once.

"4. How do you manage the expenses? For instance, let's assume a guy with a girlfriend has sex once a week (very modest assumption). To meet the same volume of sex, you'd need to have 52 appointments per year and if each appointment is $200 that is $10,400 per year to have sex."

10k was my budget when I was very active. BTY 200 per appointment was 6-7 years ago.

"5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free? I guess everyone gets into this community for a different reason. Some guys have so much money and not much to do with it. Other guys are lonely and too ugly/uninteresting for regular dating so they have to pay. Other guys went through a nasty divorce and think the emotional investment needed to have free-sex isn't worth it so they pay instead. I'm curious as to what your reasons are if you're okay sharing."

Variety has always been the number one factor for me. That and the ability to do some crazy fantasy sessions.
 

Robert Mugabe

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As someone who is very, very, very new to this whole part of the internet I can't help but have questions on my mind. I hope I can ask them without breaking some unspoken rule.

1. Are you ever worried about legal trouble?

2. Do your friends, families, know about this?

3. Are you guys single or in relationships?

4. How do you manage the expenses? For instance, let's assume a guy with a girlfriend has sex once a week (very modest assumption). To meet the same volume of sex, you'd need to have 52 appointments per year and if each appointment is $200 that is $10,400 per year to have sex.

5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free? I guess everyone gets into this community for a different reason. Some guys have so much money and not much to do with it. Other guys are lonely and too ugly/uninteresting for regular dating so they have to pay. Other guys went through a nasty divorce and think the emotional investment needed to have free-sex isn't worth it so they pay instead. I'm curious as to what your reasons are if you're okay sharing.
5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free?

If I could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free I wouldn't be fucking escorts. I suppose I could find one. But not one to my liking. They are a little harder to find. Take this morning for instance. Just saw one of my Chinese milfs for one hour of hug.kiss.suck.fuck. Gave her $70.00 kissed her goodbye at the door and was on my way. Don't have to worry about calling her back. May see another one next week. Show me a wife, girlfriend who can suck/fuck etc. who you can leave at the door and revisit some point in the future without having to worry about it. With the freedom to switch between favorites with no commitment and be secure in the knowledge that like a parked car, you can come back to it, and I am in.
 

Cookie.Monster

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5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free?

There is also the time drain [cost] a girlfriend/wife presents. If you are working on a major project, business venture, etc, these women still compete for your attention. You can't just pour yourself into your project or venture, and be completely focused. You still need to pay attention to them; otherwise, they grow horns and make your life frustrating. It doesn't matter if she is hot or homely - she will always want your attention; and usually when you are at a critical point in your venture.

Escorts are perfect because they won't distract you when you are working on your venture. For those guys with 9-to-5 jobs, you don't understand what I mean. But those entrepreneurs out there, you know what I mean. Girlfriends/wives have a time and place.
 

lost-dude

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5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free?

If I could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free I wouldn't be fucking escorts. I suppose I could find one. But not one to my liking. They are a little harder to find. Take this morning for instance. Just saw one of my Chinese milfs for one hour of hug.kiss.suck.fuck. Gave her $70.00 kissed her goodbye at the door and was on my way. Don't have to worry about calling her back. May see another one next week. Show me a wife, girlfriend who can suck/fuck etc. who you can leave at the door and revisit some point in the future without having to worry about it. With the freedom to switch between favorites with no commitment and be secure in the knowledge that like a parked car, you can come back to it, and I am in.
Whoa whoa whoa ... how are you getting full service for just $70.00 ??
 
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As someone who is very, very, very new to this whole part of the internet I can't help but have questions on my mind. I hope I can ask them without breaking some unspoken rule.

1. Are you ever worried about legal trouble?

2. Do your friends, families, know about this?

3. Are you guys single or in relationships?

4. How do you manage the expenses? For instance, let's assume a guy with a girlfriend has sex once a week (very modest assumption). To meet the same volume of sex, you'd need to have 52 appointments per year and if each appointment is $200 that is $10,400 per year to have sex.

5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free? I guess everyone gets into this community for a different reason. Some guys have so much money and not much to do with it. Other guys are lonely and too ugly/uninteresting for regular dating so they have to pay. Other guys went through a nasty divorce and think the emotional investment needed to have free-sex isn't worth it so they pay instead. I'm curious as to what your reasons are if you're okay sharing.
When I search Leolist, I set a minimum age of 30. Firstly because I prefer older women, but secondly because I don't EVER want to be even CLOSE to underage, or trafficked. Not saying a 45 year old can't be trafficked, but probably less likely. I also try to figure out if it is some kind of 'operation'. meaning a place with multiple women, pimps etc. Obviously to stay away.
2) NO
3) In relationship
4) LOL, $10,400? I am more than double that, I bet triple is about right actually. So, the key thing is to be have a high income. Then hide the hobby costs well. There are ways.
5) Well, why are YOU here? There's your answer.
 
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As someone who is very, very, very new to this whole part of the internet I can't help but have questions on my mind. I hope I can ask them without breaking some unspoken rule.

1. Are you ever worried about legal trouble?

2. Do your friends, families, know about this?

3. Are you guys single or in relationships?

4. How do you manage the expenses? For instance, let's assume a guy with a girlfriend has sex once a week (very modest assumption). To meet the same volume of sex, you'd need to have 52 appointments per year and if each appointment is $200 that is $10,400 per year to have sex.

5. The most important question. Why do you guys hire escorts, when you could fuck a girlfriend/wife for free? I guess everyone gets into this community for a different reason. Some guys have so much money and not much to do with it. Other guys are lonely and too ugly/uninteresting for regular dating so they have to pay. Other guys went through a nasty divorce and think the emotional investment needed to have free-sex isn't worth it so they pay instead. I'm curious as to what your reasons are if you're okay sharing.
1. No
2. No
3. Don't discuss
4. Once a month - if my bonus comes in twice that month
5. For the excitement of meeting that new SP - the simple fact of having variety to enjoy the simple pleasures of life - and sex is a desire second to hunger that needs to be fulfilled. You would get sick of having the same food day in day out. as they say -

 
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