Woman gets fired for leaving work 5-15 mins early all the time but…..

[Jenesis]

Woman gets fired for leaving work 5-15 mins early all the time but…..

she takes shorter lunch breaks to make up the difference. And she take 15-20 mins for lunch instead of 45 so it works out she is giving a little more time then her typical 8 hrs.

Time on the job has been 7 weeks only. This is in the UK so I don’t know about their probationary legal labour rules, but she is on probation for another 6 weeks

Was she unfairly dismissed?

Opinions.

Found the video.

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[John Wick]

What were the agreed upon 'hours of work' in her employment agreement? If it says 8:00am to 4:00pm, she can't leave early at 3:45pm just because she chose to take shorter breaks and/or lunch hours. It's likely not about how many hours she's working and more about was she actually at work when she was supposed to be there.

 

[Fun For All]

How can any of us give a fair opinion when we don't any of the circumstances...

 

[silentkisser]

What were the agreed upon 'hours of work' in her employment agreement? If it says 8:00am to 4:00pm, she can't leave early at 3:45pm just because she chose to take shorter breaks and/or lunch hours. It's likely not about how many hours she's working and more about was she actually at work when she was supposed to be there.

Yeah, I think that's the thing. Unless she gets permission from the manager or what not. I mean, the reality, especially in a post lockdown world, is this is just stupid. It reeks of some middle manager feeling like he lost control or something, and the business doesn't empower its employees to do their jobs. Now, without any information about the job, there could be a real reason they need her there for her time...like a 9-11 operator or something, or where leaving early leaves co-workers vulnerable.

 

[Jenesis]

How can any of us give a fair opinion when we don't any of the circumstances...

That is all I have from the video. She was recording her being dismissed.

I assume it is a retail store because the boss was saying that she was steal from the company because they paid her when she was not working and that if someone took that money off the “floor” that would be stealing too.

She leaves because she needs to pick up the kids from school. So I am assuming a regular 8-4 type job

That is all I know. Found the video. I put it in the OP

 

[squeezer]

Still under probation and she decided to pretty much make up her own hours. I don't blame the employer for sacking her before the probationary period ends.

 

[VIPhunter]

That is all I have from the video. She was recording her being dismissed.

I assume it is a retail store because the boss was saying that she was steal from the company because they paid her when she was not working and that if someone took that money off the “floor” that would be stealing too.

She leaves because she needs to pick up the kids from school. So I am assuming a regular 8-4 type job

That is all I know. Found the video. I put it in the OP

If it's a store, you have your answer, right?

They have 'opening hours' and the store must be staffed for those times.

When I was in High School I worked at TV store in a mall. The mall would assign huge fines on shops that were not open at the defined times.

Imagine an air traffic controller...Perhaps s/he might have landed a couple dozen planes during his shift. But he has to cover the time for the hand-off to the next ATC. Anything else is dereliction of duty.

Can a barber or hairdresser or nail tech just walk out while leaving a customer half done? "Well, I took a short lunch" is a childish response.


Yes...she most likely should be fired.

 

[Jenesis]

Still under probation and she decided to pretty much make up her own hours. I don't blame the employer for sacking her before the probationary period ends.

Ya this is my opinion as well. But she plans to fight it with the union.

I don’t think calling it “theft” is accurate but you can’t make up your own hours and think that is ok.

During COVID, I went by projects not time which freed things up for employees but in a setting like hers, you can’t just make up hours

 

[John Wick]

She leaves because she needs to pick up the kids from school. So I am assuming a regular 8-4 type job

So if we take it one step further....what if she left her kids in daycare. She arrives 15mins prior to close of daycare business to find the place empty and the kids unattended because the staff left early to go home, having taken shorter breaks and/or shorter lunch hour. Would she be upset or would she say 'makes perfect sense!'.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

If there is a start time and an end time, she needs to be on duty for each.

 

[Jenesis]

If there is a start time and an end time, she needs to be on duty for each.

I agree. I don’t get making up the hours that suit you.

I mean does that mean she can come in a 7 and stay until 5 but take 12-2 off?!?!?!

What I really don’t get is the internet saying this is an unfair dismissal????

 

[pusher69]

Someone (another employee) complained or something happened and the person in question was not around to address the issue.
Leaving early once in a while is fine with me, but if its everyday, it can become an issue if everyone in the company is not informed of the work arrangement.

I have direct reports that either start they day at 6AM, 7AM, 7:30AM, 8AM, 8:30AM and 9AM (all EST) regardless of where they are in the world and they finish their day accordingly and everyone on my team and the company is aware.

 

[Darts]

Woman gets fired for leaving work 5-15 mins early all the time but…..

What if all the other staff also decide leaving early by 5-15 minutes is a good idea?

 

[unassuming]

I used to do payroll when I was working, If someone left work early , I would deduct their pay for that time ( I would check the video to see what exact time that they stopped working). Many would say that they didn't take their break or came back early from lunch.

My response was that they could not set their own hours of work, there is a reason that there is a set schedule.

Another issue I had was that say, someone was schedued 8-5, they would walk into the work place at 8:00 am, or later, by the time that they have hung up their coat, and get into work attire, they would be several minutes late and I would deduct them for that time. I tell them , you are scheduled 8am to 5pm, you are to be performing your duties at 8am, not walking in at that time, and you are to have performed your last duty at 5pm not at your locker getting changed at that time.

No one had fought me on this and won.

 

[onomatopoeia]

Someone still on probation would not yet be part of a Union, so they can't and won't do anything for her. Working through part of her lunch break would not be seen as a positive factor by a Union.

The reason why she was leaving work early is irrelevant to the Employer. The fact that she did not receive permission from a supervisor before leaving early is very relevant.

"This video is a reconstruction of real life events'... With nothing to identify the woman or the place where she works, an anonymous former worker got $250 for wasting four and a half minutes of many people's lives.

 

[Fun For All]

That is all I have from the video. She was recording her being dismissed.

I assume it is a retail store because the boss was saying that she was steal from the company because they paid her when she was not working and that if someone took that money off the “floor” that would be stealing too.

She leaves because she needs to pick up the kids from school. So I am assuming a regular 8-4 type job

That is all I know. Found the video. I put it in the OP

Ok…well then I guess I don’t give a shit that someone in the UK got fired for leaving 15 minutes early…

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Ok…well then I guess I don’t give a shit that someone in the UK got fired for leaving 15 minutes early…

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[Greytop19]

I don’t think calling it “theft” is accurate

It is also referred to as "white collar" crime

 

[unassuming]

I used to do payroll when I was working, If someone left work early , I would deduct their pay for that time ( I would check the video to see what exact time that they stopped working). Many would say that they didn't take their break or came back early from lunch.

My response was that they could not set their own hours of work, there is a reason that there is a set schedule.

Another issue I had was that say, someone was schedued 8-5, they would walk into the work place at 8:00 am, or later, by the time that they have hung up their coat, and get into work attire, they would be several minutes late and I would deduct them for that time. I tell them , you are scheduled 8am to 5pm, you are to be performing your duties at 8am, not walking in at that time, and you are to have performed your last duty at 5pm not at your locker getting changed at that time.

No one had fought me on this and won.

Also: If some one is late, say, 10 minutes, they will forfeit one of their 15 minute breaks, they freak out, my response:

"You are scheduled 8am to 5pm, which is an 8 hour shift with an unpaid one hour lunch, you were late 10 minutes, which means you are getting paid 7 hours and 50 minutes. On an 8 hour shift , by law, you are entitled to 2- 15 minute breaks and an unpaid lunch break, which in this case is one hour.. Since you are working less than 8 hours , you are entitled to only one 15 minute break

 

[poker]

The company could have corrected her behaviour fairly easily….

If they tried that, and could not, then it was fair.

If they went straight to dismissal, who would want to work for employers like that? She is better off without them.