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Too Woke? San Fran school board removes 'chief' from its job titles

Carvher

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unreal, waaay to woke, "Chief" does not pertain to native north americans exclusively, it's originates from the the french word "Chef" meaning the head of a group.
Please don't let facts and reason into the equation.
It confuses the delicate woke minds of today when they are not in their "safe space"
 

Carvher

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And yes, using a Holocaust poem to rant about some organization changing job titles is a pretty pathetic attempt at victimhood. But I'm sure you can explain to me who's human rights are harmed by changing a job title from "Chief Operating Officer" to "Lead Operating Officer"?
You can't use "Lead Operating Officer ".
Lead has proven to be carcinogenic.
 

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Don't agree with it as Chief is not a derogatory term.

The Chief Warrant Officer is the top dog in the NCO ranks.

As others have said the term predates the discovery of North America.

The Cleveland Indians mascot, now that was derogatory!

People are too sensitive.
 
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wigglee

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Nope. Nothing bad happened by changing some terminology. Nobody was hurt. Nobody took a pay cut or lost their job. And if it triggers Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, even better. And if you are one of the ones botching about something that has no effect on you or your life what do ever, ask yourself, why are you so “offended”?
Something bad did happen... the left made fools of themselves and made a mockery of their supposed intelligence. I am on the left, but this just makes us look ridiculous.
 
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Democrat nonsense.
Like this crap……..

Why is shoplifting so rampant? Because state law holds that stealing merchandise worth $950 or less is just a misdemeanor, which means that law enforcement probably won’t bother to investigate, and if they do, prosecutors will let it go.

California is becoming a sewer.
 
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Something bad did happen... the left made fools of themselves and made a mockery of their supposed intelligence. I am on the left, but this just makes us look ridiculous.
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The far left makes moderates look as foolish as the far right makes moderates look.

That being said, it’s not a left or right thing. Don’t let them pin it on you.
 

The Oracle

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Democrat nonsense.
Like this crap……..

Why is shoplifting so rampant? Because state law holds that stealing merchandise worth $950 or less is just a misdemeanor, which means that law enforcement probably won’t bother to investigate, and if they do, prosecutors will let it go.

California is becoming a sewer.

A recent example of what you are saying........Of course the left doesn't want to even admit this is happening.
 

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Of course the left doesn't want to even admit this is happening.
The left is destroying the state at the same time as the left is destroying the country…of course the left doesn’t and won’t ever admit it.
I would bet an hour with a top SP there are rabid left here on Terb that are realizing the same thing but their blind hatred for Trump will never allow them to admit it.

The left is also destroying Canada.
 

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A recent example of what you are saying........Of course the left doesn't want to even admit this is happening.
Of course it is happening, and of coarse it is non sense. Trying to say “the left” in general is responsible for this is also nonsense.

California has some leadership issues. That does not make it the entire left’s responsibility. Remember we had this chat when you didn’t like me lumping you in with wing but right righties pushing “the Clinton’s are murderers!” And “pizzagate! Conspiracies. It’s kind of the same.

Understanding that sending a black kid to jail for 20 years for less than an ounce of weed is just as bad not arresting people looting businesses.

Kinda hoping you were better than using click bait as “gotcha” politics.
 

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The left is destroying the state at the same time as the left is destroying the country…of course the left doesn’t and won’t ever admit it.
I would bet an hour with a top SP there are rabid left here on Terb that are realizing the same thing but their blind hatred for Trump will never allow them to admit it.

The left is also destroying Canada.

The right tried to steal an election. The leaders on the right lied to their constituents and organized an attack on the Congress of the United States. The Right gerrymanders voting districts to win elections with less votes. The right has been letting lunatics with weapons attack schools and churches. The right backs racist organizations….


Democracy itself is in danger because of todays right.
 

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When I lived out west I took the opportunity to visit San Fran several times. Nice city AT THAT TIME. Then they banned public nudity in 2012 and its been downhill ever since. The pic below is one of the few fond memories of what I have left of San Fran.

Young woman with trench coat.
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Toronto is way ahead of San Francisco in their absurd woke-ism, the TDSB removed “Chief” from its titles five years ago:



Toronto school board removing 'chief' from job titles out of respect for Indigenous peoples
Nicole ThompsonThe Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:38AM EDTLast Updated Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:40PM EDT
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TORONTO -- Canada's largest school board is phasing out the word "chief" from senior staff job titles, saying the move is being made out of respect for Indigenous peoples.

The Toronto District School Board's decision raised eyebrows in some quarters, but a spokesman said the action was taken "in the spirit" of recommendations made by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

However, Ryan Bird said that to his knowledge no Indigenous people had reached out to ask the board to remove the phrase from its job titles.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission spent years documenting the long-standing impacts of Canada's residential school system and made many recommendations to further reconciliation with Indigenous people.

For the TDSB, tackling the word "chief" was a proactive move, Bird said, explaining that the term has come under fire in certain contexts in recent years.

"It may not have originated as an Indigenous word, but the fact is that it is used as a slur in some cases, or in a negative way to describe Indigenous people," he said in an interview Wednesday.

"With that in mind, as it has become a slur in some cases, that's the decision the administration has made to be proactive on that."

The board's effort has been underway for a few years and is close to completion, Bird said.
From here on out, the word is being replaced with terms like "manager" and "executive officer" within the school board. For instance, Bird said, the person once called the chief of social work is now the manager of social work.

Word of the TDSB's efforts drew questions from observers online who wondered if the board may have gone too far. Some questioned the need for the move while others pointed out that the word "chief" is widespread in job titles across the world.

Mark Morton, who works at the University of Waterloo's Centre for Teaching Excellence and studies the origin of words, said the root of the word "chief" is believed to predate Latin, and also spawned words such as "captain."

The word "chief" in its modern sense was first used to describe leaders of Irish and Scottish clans in the 1570s, and it wasn't until the 18th century that it was applied to the leaders of First Nations, he said.

The TDSB's effort was the first time Morton had heard of the word being thought of as offensive to First Nations people, but if it was considered truly hurtful, it was fair to phase it out, he said.

"If that usage is going to genuinely hurt a group of people, then I would say yes, by all means, let's see if we can find an alternative," he said. "On the other hand, the word originated outside of the context of First Nations cultures ... and the First Nations associations that it has, I don't think are negative."

Nicholas Ng-A-Fook, the director of the teacher education program at the University of Ottawa, wasn't familiar with the TDSB's efforts but noted that in a broader context where sports teams, for example, use derogatory images of Indigenous people alongside the term "chief," disassociating from the word makes sense.

"Even though the etymology and history of chief in terms of administrative positions wasn't necessarily linked to the appropriation of ... the tribal chief appointed, the fact that there might be a connection in light of sports teams being named 'The Chiefs' and having as a mascot a chief, that they would want to disassociate themselves from the possibility."
Ontario's education minister said boards were allowed to have their own discussions over such matters.

"School boards have the flexibility to engage in their own conversations around the steps that should be taken to reflect the recommendations from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission," a spokesman for Mitzie Hunter said in a statement.

 
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Kids are getting killed in schools and the usual suspects are fucking around with the word "chief". Thank goodness we don't call mankind "peoplekind". A character trait of lefties is that they must feel offended, want to be offended and will be offended if they are not offended.
 

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Something bad did happen... the left made fools of themselves and made a mockery of their supposed intelligence. I am on the left, but this just makes us look ridiculous.
Maybe even niggardly...
 

y2kmark

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But “flat earthers” do have an impact on society. They deny basic science, and hold us up as a species. Big difference.

Astrology… I tend to agree with you, but admittedly, I have never been to “the great beyond”.

Not sure about Ryerson being “Pro Native as fuck”. I will agree, history, and it people are complicated. Ryerson set up the Residential School system… we know better now. He has to own that.

Let’s not pretend though that why it bothers you. I think we’re at the point where if one group has an opinion, the other group automatically has the opposite. I see the posting history. It’s not hard to determine who is going to think what, and who will and won’t chime in.

I myself have fallen into that category a few times. However, I don’t see the world strictly down political lines. I lean left socially, but I supported Trumps stand against China. Not a fan of religion, but China needs to relax on the Uyghurs. Trudeau does suck… and even though Climate Change is real, the Carbon tax is not a great plan. Evidence would suggest it is not working.

The pump price of gasoline and diesel has more than doubled in the past month and there is every indication the trend will continue. That should help...

Still… Too Woke? Nope. As a matter of fact, what a dumb term.

Think of it as being in a state of not having your head up your ass. Some achieve this state after great personal conflict and high levels of cognitive dissonance and others just seem to be born that way (Ghandi comes to mind)...
To woke? You either awake or not. After coffee this morning we’re you too awake? I mean, you either see the truth or not. Is understanding fortune tellers are con artists “too smart”?

More bullshit political character assignation speak from the political right.

Is that how you keep from getting nipped in the butt?
 

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Toronto is way ahead of San Francisco in their absurd woke-ism, the TDSB removed “Chief” from its titles five years ago:

Toronto school board removing 'chief' from job titles out of respect for Indigenous peoples
Nicole ThompsonThe Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:38AM EDTLast Updated Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:40PM EDT

TORONTO -- Canada's largest school board is phasing out the word "chief" from senior staff job titles, saying the move is being made out of respect for Indigenous peoples.

The Toronto District School Board's decision raised eyebrows in some quarters, but a spokesman said the action was taken "in the spirit" of recommendations made by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

However, Ryan Bird said that to his knowledge no Indigenous people had reached out to ask the board to remove the phrase from its job titles.

Leave it to that POS of the Groper.:mad:
 
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For a little reprieve from wokeness watch Ricky Gervais' new standup special on Netflix called SuperNature.

I think that having a good laugh at how stupid this is all becoming will help to swing the pendulum back to sanity within our lifetimes.
 
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For a little reprieve from wokeness watch Ricky Gervais' new standup special on Netflix called SuperNature.

I think that having a good laugh at how stupid this is all becoming will help to swing the pendulum back to sanity within our lifetimes.
Amazing, he's so funny and outspoken. He doesn't give a fuck, Trans went after him because of the jokes. 😂
 

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Please don't let facts and reason into the equation.
It confuses the delicate woke minds of today when they are not in their "safe space"
True.

But it's equally irrational for these culture warriors to freak out because some company changes job titles.
 
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