I would luvvv to believe you; but how about idiots like Solovayev and Kiselyev?!I am sure you think otherwise, but most Russians are not psychotic and wouldn’t get off watching scenes like that.
I would luvvv to believe you; but how about idiots like Solovayev and Kiselyev?!I am sure you think otherwise, but most Russians are not psychotic and wouldn’t get off watching scenes like that.
Hitler could not manage to invade GB in 1940 when GB essentially did not have an army. The RAF and the RN were too strong. They were both a lot stronger in 1942. Britain was impregnable. The British navy was literally about 50 times the size of the Kriegsmarine.Imagine how the war would have unfolded had Operation Barbarossa
succeeded in meeting Hitler's objectives in 1941. How do you think the
UK could have defended itself from Germany in 1942? Remember they
had yet to turn the tide in the Battle of Atlantic that year.
It would be if it were voluntary. The USSR forces were led by idiots who used sheer numbers to overwhelm the Germans. They didn't have enough rifles or ammunition, so they gave one dude a gun, the other five rounds. when one died, the other collected the resource. And, if anyone tried to retreat, they would be executed or machine-gunned down. I'm not saying there were no heroic moments and what not, but if you know anything about WWII, you know the Soviet officers treated the soldiers like cannon fodder.It’s called heroism.
At what cost? Considering the Russians killed 70+ % of them How many Canadians, Americans and Brits woulda died. BTW Finland was on the side of the Germans, so were parts of Ukraine, Romania. Sweden aided them, as did the Swiss. etc etc. Also if USSR fought alongside Germany, it would NOT Have been pretty.We were more than capable of finishing off the germans without russia. Russians only started fighting the germans when they switched sides.
On the flip side the Germans would have had a lot more bombers free and they started deploying the Fritz X missile in 1943. This missile would have savaged allied shipping if the really had the resources to focus on the sea war. Also they would have had access to Russian oil.. and that would NOT have been good.Hitler could not manage to invade GB in 1940 when GB essentially did not have an army. The RAF and the RN were too strong. They were both a lot stronger in 1942. Britain was impregnable. The British navy was literally about 50 times the size of the Kriegsmarine.
And Britain and the US won the Battle of the Atlantic without Russia. In fact, no Russia = no Murmansk convoys and all those destroyers and corvettes are escorting in the North Atlantic, not the White Sea. That helps Britain. Russia is a negative in the sea war.
one of them said "maybe in response to calls for oil embargo we should tell the west we would use nukes if they don't buy a certain amount of oil ". On the state TV. Not psychotic at all.I would luvvv to believe you; but how about idiots like Solovayev and Kiselyev?!
Yes that’s what you see on tv here. All of the responses in stuff like that is cut out in your free countryone of them said "maybe in response to calls for oil embargo we should tell the west we would use nukes if they don't buy a certain amount of oil ". On the state TV. Not psychotic at all.
Still no win. Firing unguided missiles at convoys from FW-200's is a low probability hit. And those convoys would have had mini escort carriers with a dozen or so old fighters if air attack was ever a serious threat.On the flip side the Germans would have had a lot more bombers free and they started deploying the Fritz X missile in 1943. This missile would have savaged allied shipping if the really had the resources to focus on the sea war. Also they would have had access to Russian oil.. and that would NOT have been good.
Solovayev is on air every evening and that shit is just continual ranting about nuking the west and mass executing Ukrainians and shipping them to death camps. 70% of Russians watch that "news" show.Yes that’s what you see on tv here. All of the responses in stuff like that is cut out in your free country
and they love it. It is officially a country of genocidal degenerates at this point.Solovayev is on air every evening and that shit is just continual ranting about nuking the west and mass executing Ukrainians and shipping them to death camps. 70% of Russians watch that "news" show.
Fritz X was a guided missile. Just 2 hits sank the massive Italian battleship RomaStill no win. Firing unguided missiles at convoys from FW-200's is a low probability hit. And those convoys would have had mini escort carriers with a dozen or so old fighters if air attack was ever a serious threat.
And oil doesn't build you a navy. And Nazi Germany didn't have a surface navy, aside from a handful of destroyers and large raiders, which spent the entire war hiding from the RN. More bombers = more spitfires. With better armament and tactics.
I am sure you think otherwise, but most Russians are not psychotic and wouldn’t get off watching scenes like that.
Invading russia in september in summer uniforms didn't help.Imagine how the war would have unfolded had Operation Barbarossa
succeeded in meeting Hitler's objectives in 1941. How do you think the
UK could have defended itself from Germany in 1942? Remember they
had yet to turn the tide in the Battle of Atlantic that year.
Some here get wet about it.Some get wet fantasizing about poison gassing thousands of Ukrainian civilians and soldiers hiding in underground bunkers.
Didn't do much sinking when the Allies invaded Normandy, did it?Fritz X was a guided missile. Just 2 hits sank the massive Italian battleship Roma
The Fritz x was a radio guided missile, the operator had to have a constant view of the target to engage.Didn't do much sinking when the Allies invaded Normandy, did it?
In fact, I don't think any Allied ships off the Normandy coast got sunk at all. Certainly not by Fritz-X missiles.
Come to think of it, notty, no Allied convoy ships got hit by Fritz-X missiles either. Which proves your argument is nonsense. The Germans had the missiles and they had bombers. But no convoy hits.
I was going to suggest that it was likely not worth using such a cutting edge weapon against merchant ships anyway. What you needed against the convoys was mass conventional weapons - i.e. U-boats and torpedoes - for mass kills, not a super-expensive one-off weapon.The Fritz x was a radio guided missile, the operator had to have a constant view of the target to engage.
I believe it as first used at Salermo in fall of 1943?, anyways after 1 ship was sunk and a few others damaged the allies found it was radio controlled and by January of 1944 had introduced radio signal jamming equipment, nullifying the threat.
There were no ships hit after early 1944.
That's what they're calling it now. Attacking civilians. Bombing their cities and villages to rubble. Booby trapping fields and houses as they retreat. Raping and torturing women and children. Kidnapping the populace and putting them in "filtration camps" Russians resort to heroism when they fail at everything else.It’s called heroism.
That certainly wasn't the feeling at the time.In that case the inevitability was germanys. Not russias.