In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

[Frankfooter]

Goes with your anti-semitic double standard.

And WTF are you talking about with Israel 'attacking' Al Aqsa? It's just you pushing an extremist religions and racist view. The WAQF, you know, the Jordanian Muslim group that oversees the Mosque said Jews can visit yet people used that as an excuse to riot because they see Jews as impure. There were no "settler attacks", simply Jews wanting to visit being attacked because some Palestinians hate Jews.

As someone who keep claiming to be for equal rights, it's pretty transparent that you side with the people trying to prevent Jews from visiting even after approval from the Muslims overseeing the site.


As for desecration, what is your comment on people hiding in a religious site while throwing rocks, fireworks, and firebombs at people outside?

So its just a typical religious visit in your mind if armed settlers with the army backing them do this?
Once inside, the settlers performed prayers and raised the Israeli flag at the Qattanin Gate, as they marked Israel's Memorial Day, the Palestinian news agency Wafa reported.

And if its about equality, why do they beat Palestinians and fire tear gas at them?
The news agency said large numbers of Muslim worshippers were prevented from entering al-Aqsa Mosque at dawn and that some of them had been beaten by Israeli security forces, who fired rubber-coated bullets, tear gas, and stun grenades at the Palestinians.

The Red Crescent also treated eight people wounded by rubber-coated bullets, three by stun grenades and 25 who were suffocated by tear gas.

Why are Israelis saying this as they went to 'worship'?
"We are the landlords of Israel and not a bunch of terrorists!" he tweeted.

You are backing violent, racist, colonial settlers trying to steal what little bits of Palestine that are left.
You are backing apartheid.

 

[Frankfooter]

You only say that because you continually try to justify attacks on Jews in Israel.

No I don't.

And lets start with this problem with your statement.
You can't even tell us where the borders of Israel lie.
So are these attacks happening in Israel or Palestine?

Why can't you tell us?

Why won't you join me in a call for both sides to be held equally to the law?
Why won't you support Israel and Palestinians being treated equally?
Why do you only support apartheid and a brutal racist regime?

 

[basketcase]

So its just a typical religious visit in your mind if armed settlers with the army backing them do this?
...

When racist radicals among the Palestinians attack people they think are Jews for 'desecrating' the mosque, police are needed.

Of course as usual, you ignore violence from certain Palestinians then complain about Israeli police having to respond.

 

[basketcase]

No I don't.

And lets start with this problem with your statement.
You can't even tell us where the borders of Israel lie.
So are these attacks happening in Israel or Palestine?
...

Considering you claim to support equal rights over separate states, why should that matter? Wall you are doing is proving what I said in the other thread about you trying to claim Jews are legitimate targets if they go in land Palestinians want.

p.s. the recent attacks were in Tel Aviv and Elad, both on Israel's side of the Green Line.

 

[Frankfooter]

When racist radicals among the Palestinians attack people they think are Jews for 'desecrating' the mosque, police are ne

Of course you defend armed settlers storming Al Aqsa backed by the IDF.
Of course you blame Palestinians for being attacked.

Its apartheid.

 

[Frankfooter]

p.s. the recent attacks were in Tel Aviv and Elad, both on Israel's side of the Green Line.

Please provide a map with the borders of Israel.
Though we both know you can't do and won't do it.

 

[canada-man]

It has been reported that a winning candidate for the Welsh Liberal Democrats has been suspended by the Party just hours after the results were announced for sharing an inflammatory video on TikTok a year earlier.

Little-One Brighouse, the newly elected councillor for Disserth and Trecoed with Newbridge-on-Wye in Powys, central Wales, was suspended by the Liberal Democrats after the Party was made aware of a video she allegedly shared to TikTok in May 2021 which showed a burning Israeli flag.

In the video, the councillor can reportedly be seen posing in front of the camera while two other video clips play concurrently. In one, the viewer can see a burning Israeli flag. In the other, a caption reads: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”.

The chant of “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” only makes sense as a call for the destruction of the world’s only Jewish state — and its replacement with a State of Palestine — and is thus an attempt to deny Jews, uniquely, the right to self-determination, which is a breach of the International Definition of Antisemitism.

A spokesperson from the Welsh Liberal Democrats said: “We have received a complaint regarding this candidate which has been reviewed under our independent complaints process. As a result they have been suspended from the Party while the complaint is fully investigated. Liberal Democrats have a long and proud record of standing up against antisemitism and continue to champion a liberal, tolerant and inclusive society for all.”

Campaign Against Antisemitism advocates for zero tolerance of antisemitism in public life. To that end we monitor all political parties and strive to ensure that any cases of concern are properly addressed.


Welsh Liberal Democrat council candidate suspended hours after being elected after posting inflammatory TikTok video using the slogan “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” (antisemitism.org)

 

[basketcase]

Of course you defend armed settlers storming Al Aqsa backed by the IDF.
...

I defend reality.

The WAQF approved Jews visiting. As commonly happens, some Muslims reacted violently to Jews even being there. All you are doing is pushing the religions extremist and racist idea that Jews desecrate the site by walking around outside a Mosque. What else would we expect from you after all your criticisms of extremist religion and racism?

 

[basketcase]

Please provide a map with the borders of Israel.
Though we both know you can't do and won't do it.

Why? Does your desire for equal rights stop outside of Israel's borders? Does being outside of Israel mean attacks on Jewish civilians are okay?

And are you saying that Tel Aviv and Elad are Palestinian lands?


Just more evidence that like with the BDS movement, your view of equal rights excludes Jews.

 

[Frankfooter]

I defend reality.

Yes, you defend the apartheid reality and ongoing ethnic cleansing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1523271645099708420

 

[Frankfooter]

Why? Does your desire for equal rights stop outside of Israel's borders? Does being outside of Israel mean attacks on Jewish civilians are okay?

And are you saying that Tel Aviv and Elad are Palestinian lands?


Just more evidence that like with the BDS movement, your view of equal rights excludes Jews.

Its hilarious that you have spent years defending apartheid Israel and you can't even locate its borders on a map.
Hilarious.

 

[basketcase]

Yes, you defend the apartheid reality and ongoing ethnic cleansing.
...

I love how you respond to reality with more bullshit propaganda.

The WAQF (you know, the Jordanian Muslim authority) approved the visit as has been done for decades. Some of the Palestinians on the site, incited by hatred of Jews became violent (also has happened regularly). And are you really trying to pretend that these old guys slowly strolling through the plaza is really "storming"? Keep on pushing that extremist, racist narrative.

Are you now saying that the WAQF can't determine visiting hours or is this just another case of you arguing '''equal rights" while saying Jews shouldn't be allowed to stroll around their holiest site?

 

[basketcase]

Its hilarious that you have spent years defending apartheid Israel and you can't even locate its borders on a map.
Hilarious.

It's hilarious that after years of praising Amnesty, you disagree with their statements about attacks on Jewish civilians in Israel or the West Bank. Do you not get how immoral it is for your only comment about textbook definition terror attacks is to suggest Jews are legitimate targets in Palestinians land (disowning your equal rights claims again).

 

[canada-man]

Speakers at Quds Day Terrorist rally in Dearborn, Mich., advocate violence against Israel



At an International Quds Day rally in Dearborn, Mich., organized by the Al-Quds Committee, several speakers promoted violence against Israel.

According to the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) report, the rally took place on April 29 and was streamed live on the Dearborn.org Facebook page.

The rally moderator called for a “noble, honorable [and] brave armed resistance” in Palestine and for its “complete liberation.”

Michigan author Fatima Najdi recited a poem about how she could see the “quivering fear” of the “cancerous entity” that is Israel and hear the “final rasping breath of those Zionists.”

“When Tel Aviv is razed to that ground, ‘never to humiliation!’ we will shout,” she exclaimed.

The rally moderator said: “The Zionists can admit that there is no two-state solution. Why can’t some of us? What’s left? Peaceful protests? Again, we have some people who want to remain acceptable in the mainstream. They want to look like moderates. They are afraid of being labeled as extremists, so they dissociate themselves from the noble, the honorable, the brave armed Palestinian resistance.”

“The only solution for our brothers and sisters in Palestine is armed resistance—and we support that, and we are with that, in our hearts and in our entire beings,” said the moderator.

Speakers at Quds Day rally in Dearborn, Mich., advocate violence against Israel - JNS.org

Michigan author Fatima Najdi recited a poem about how she could hear the “final rasping breath of those Zionists.”

www.jns.org

pro-palestianian movement=terrorism apologism and anti jewish hate

 

[Frankfooter]

It's hilarious that after years of praising Amnesty, you disagree with their statements about attacks on Jewish civilians in Israel or the West Bank.

Post the quotes from Amnesty and I'll agree with them.
Remember, the only one here who won't accept their findings is you, basketcase.

You refused to accept their findings years before the report on apartheid.

 

[basketcase]

Post the quotes from Amnesty and I'll agree with them.
Remember, the only one here who won't accept their findings is you, basketcase.

You refused to accept their findings years before the report on apartheid.

So you got clearly exposed at your religious incitement about Jews visiting the plaza outside Al Aqsa and you want to ignore it and instead argue against amnesty?

And I love how you say I'm lying about you justifying terrorism and immediately go back to justifying attacks on Jews because despite your 'equal rights' mantra, you clearly think Jews shouldn't be allowed in the West Bank and become legitimate targets if they are (just like you think Jews shouldn't be allowed at their holiest site).

And most disgustingly, the attacks I pointed out are clearly on the Israeli side of the Green Line.


But here is the Amnesty quote. I've posted it several times yet you still act like attacks on Jewish civilians is justified.

However, the unlawful status of Israeli settlements does not affect the civilian status of settlers. Settlers, like any other civilians, cannot be targeted and only lose their protection from attack if and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities (Article 51 (3) Protocol 1)
https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/amnesty-international-breach-principle-distinction#:~:text=However, the unlawful status of,(3) Protocol 1).

p.s. the same statement specifically rebuffs your characterization of Palestinian combatants as having protection against repercussions.




p.p.s. Yes, I don't blindly accept Amnesty as an arbiter of truth. I have never even brought them up except to expose your racist hypocricy.

 

[canada-man]

next On Pro-palestinian activities



A group of Israeli basketball fans was attacked in the Spanish city of Bilbao on Sunday by pro-Palestinians, according to Israeli media reports.

The Israelis, supporters of Hapoel U-Net Holon, were in Spain for the team’s FIBA Basketball Champions League game against Germany’s MHP Riesen Ludwigsburg.

Hapoel supporter Boaz Yitzhaki told Ynet the Israeli group had been “ambushed” while on the way to the stadium.

“We marched to the stadium together. Suddenly, a group of pro-Palestinians started throwing objects at us from a bar decorated with a Palestinian flag,” he said.

“They threw chairs, glasses and bottles at us. We had families and children with us. It was a very, very scary incident,” said Yitzhaki, who added that police stationed nearby were slow to react.

Hapoel Holon chairman Eitan Lanciano called on Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid to take action.

“For several days now, Israeli fans who have come to a sporting event have been suffering from anti-Semitism by pro-Palestinian elements in Bilbao,” he said, according to the report.

Hapoel lost Sunday’s third-place championship game with 68 points to MHP Riesen Ludwigsburg’s 88.

Israeli basketball fans attacked by pro-Palestinian group in Spain - JNS.org

“We had families and children with us. It was a very, very scary incident,” said Hapoel U-Net Holon supporter Boaz Yitzhaki • Hapoel chairman calls on Israel’s foreign minister to take action.

www.jns.org

 

[Frankfooter]

So you got clearly exposed at your religious incitement about Jews visiting the plaza outside Al Aqsa and you want to ignore it and instead argue against amnesty?

And I love how you say I'm lying about you justifying terrorism and immediately go back to justifying attacks on Jews because despite your 'equal rights' mantra, you clearly think Jews shouldn't be allowed in the West Bank and become legitimate targets if they are (just like you think Jews shouldn't be allowed at their holiest site).

And most disgustingly, the attacks I pointed out are clearly on the Israeli side of the Green Line.


But here is the Amnesty quote. I've posted it several times yet you still act like attacks on Jewish civilians is justified.

However, the unlawful status of Israeli settlements does not affect the civilian status of settlers. Settlers, like any other civilians, cannot be targeted and only lose their protection from attack if and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities (Article 51 (3) Protocol 1)
https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/amnesty-international-breach-principle-distinction#:~:text=However, the unlawful status of,(3) Protocol 1).

p.s. the same statement specifically rebuffs your characterization of Palestinian combatants as having protection against repercussions.




p.p.s. Yes, I don't blindly accept Amnesty as an arbiter of truth. I have never even brought them up except to expose your racist hypocricy.

First, I love the fact that you had to go to 2002 to find an Amnesty report you could quote. That is incredibly telling.
Second, I totally agree with that Amnesty statement, attacks on civilians are war crimes. Never have I supported attacks on civilians.

You, however, continue to defend Israel using snipers to target and shoot civilian protesters in the Great March of Return.

Now that you state that you agree with Amnesty and are against targeting civilians you must either agree with this statement or say you support targeting civilians.

The commission of inquiry’s report echoed Amnesty International’s own findings that many killings by Israeli forces of Palestinians during the protests violated international humanitarian law.
It “found reasonable grounds to believe that Israeli security forces killed and maimed Palestinian demonstrators who did not pose an imminent threat of death or serious injury to others when they were shot” – including children, paramedics, journalists and persons with disabilities.

The report highlighted how 80% of the 6,106 injuries caused by live ammunition were to the lower limbs and that more people lost limbs as a result of injuries sustained during the Great March of Return protests than during the entire 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict. Doctors in Gaza had told Amnesty International that many of the serious injuries they had witnessed were typical of war wounds.

 

[basketcase]

First, I love the fact that you had to go to 2002 to find an Amnesty report you could quote. That is incredibly telling.
Second, I totally agree with that Amnesty statement, attacks on civilians are war crimes. Never have I supported attacks on civilians.
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As usual you keep arguing against Amnesty when the condemn actions by Palestinians but promote them as all knowing when the criticize Israel.

So why is it that when Jewish civilians are killed in the West Bank your only comment is to say they shouldn't be there (despite pretending to want equal rights)? Why is it when Jewish civilians were killed in indisputable terror attacks on restaurants and at parks in Israel, your comments are to explain why Palestinians are upset and again ask what Israel's borders are. Why is it you have repeatedly referred to Gaza rockets as self defense?

Every day you show you ridiculous double standard as you reject working towards peace, demonize Israel, and completely ignore what Palestinians want just to fit your definition anti-semitic beliefs.


p.s. Show me one post where I defended shooting any civilian not directly involved in hostilities (and as your Amnesty says, that removes their civilian protection from attack).

 

[Frankfooter]

As usual you keep arguing against Amnesty when the condemn actions by Palestinians but promote them as all knowing when the criticize Israel.

So why is it that when Jewish civilians are killed in the West Bank your only comment is to say they shouldn't be there (despite pretending to want equal rights)? Why is it when Jewish civilians were killed in indisputable terror attacks on restaurants and at parks in Israel, your comments are to explain why Palestinians are upset and again ask what Israel's borders are. Why is it you have repeatedly referred to Gaza rockets as self defense?

Every day you show you ridiculous double standard as you reject working towards peace, demonize Israel, and completely ignore what Palestinians want just to fit your definition anti-semitic beliefs.


p.s. Show me one post where I defended shooting any civilian not directly involved in hostilities (and as your Amnesty says, that removes their civilian protection from attack).

Palestine is presently occupied by an apartheid military occupation. As an occupied people they have the right to self defence. Not Israel, they are the occupying power.
That given, neither side can target civilians.

And any time either side uses civilians as militants they lose the title 'civilian'.

Israel to form 'civilian national guard' following wave of attacks

New body set to have civilian volunteers and reserve soldiers, including officers who operate in the occupied West Bank

www.middleeasteye.net

You of course don't see the ongoing settler colonialism as an aggression, despite it being internationally recognized as a war crime.

Israel advances plans for nearly 4,500 West Bank settler homes

JERUSALEM: Israel advanced plans on Thursday for 4,427 housing units for Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank, an Israeli non-governmental organization said. The Civil Administration’s high planning committee gave final approval to 2,791 units and initial endorsement for another 1,636...

www.arabnews.com

All of this leads to Amnesty's latest report, which I fully support.
Do you?

Israel/OPT: Increase in unlawful killings and other crimes highlights urgent need to end Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians