So, how about that Orban guy, eh?

Valcazar

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The drama teacher's party has figured out how to rule with 32.6 % of the vote.
Gotta love our democracy.
But he has a minority and a deal with another party.
He doesn't have a super majority based on those numbers.
And be fair, Orban does seem to have gotten 53% so it isn't that he has no mandate.
It is that he has a super majority with those numbers.
 

K Douglas

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Room 112
Do you figure placing that emphasis will do it in 2024 or will Putin have to help again?
It worked in 2016 and it worked in 2020 and it will work in 2024. Putin is irrelevant always has been.
 

nottyboi

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Same playbook as rump, except he's not as stupid as rump.
That's the kind of leadership you salivate over, isn't it?
Are you saying non-stupid is not a desirable trait? Because we could certainly use it in Ontario. As for "family values" etc that is not that far from what our right wing nuts are after and that kinda thinking is what got DOFO into power.
 

nottyboi

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Putin can win 100% of the seats with much less than that.
FYI Russia does not have the same system as we do. They have a Presidential system and Putin has won by as little as 53%. The Duma election is separate and 126 seats are currently in opposition hands with the Communist party the leading opposition.
 

nottyboi

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The drama teacher's party has figured out how to rule with 32.6 % of the vote.
Gotta love our democracy.
Yet you guys keep saying he is stupid and yet he keeps out foxing your guy. FYI the Lib-NDP have 50.44% of the popular vote so its the most democratic govt we have had in a VERY long time.
 
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Yet you guys keep saying he is stupid and yet he keeps out foxing your guy. FYI the Lib-NDP have 50.44% of the popular vote so its the most democratic govt we have had in a VERY long time.
That's a bizarre way of looking at it but whatever
 

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Oy vey. Is the concept of self determination really that scary to you lefties?
Does that apply for Kosovo?

And there is a huge difference between criticizing the Orban's record of abusing rights and scapegoating on racial lines and demanding the dissolution of Hungary.

p.s. You do realize how over the top your straw-man is right? No one was demanding an invasion or regime change.
 

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So you are for democracy until a guy you don't like gets elected? and a majority of Hungarians think like this...so?
Where did I say anything about him being elected is "not democracy". Urban is very critical about the "leftist EU", in spite of Hungary benefiting from the income that is pouring in from the EU to Hungary. Are you okay with slamming someone who is handing you the Euros on a plate that other nations like Germany are paying more than their fair share?
 

nottyboi

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Where did I say anything about him being elected is "not democracy". Urban is very critical about the "leftist EU", in spite of Hungary benefiting from the income that is pouring in from the EU to Hungary. Are you okay with slamming someone who is handing you the Euros on a plate that other nations like Germany are paying more than their fair share?
So you say member states should not have a say in the policy of the EU then? They should just suck it up?
 

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Are you in favour of democracy, does that include fair elections?
Conservatives did the same thing in Canada. Media bias always exists, but with the internet people have access to info. Incumbency is always an advantage. Look at what DOFO is doing.
 

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Conservatives did the same thing in Canada. Media bias always exists, but with the internet people have access to info. Incumbency is always an advantage. Look at what DOFO is doing.
So call it out when it happens and don't claim its a democratic choice when the system has been tilted for one party.
Not that I think Ford, much as I dislike him, has done anything like Orban.
 

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Does that apply for Kosovo?

And there is a huge difference between criticizing the Orban's record of abusing rights and scapegoating on racial lines and demanding the dissolution of Hungary.

p.s. You do realize how over the top your straw-man is right? No one was demanding an invasion or regime change.
To you lefties the democracy is a fig leaf. As soon as the people take the "wrong" turn the prick comes out.
 

nottyboi

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Yup.
I can't see a world in which a result like that didn't provoke a recount.
No one seems surprised so the exit polls must have confirmed the result. In either case I have not heard of anyone asking for a recount
 
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